but going around calling people goebbels i don't think is a good idea.i actually criticized the democratic congressman who recently did that, wrote a piece that was very critical of him. you know, i guess i will just return to the question and -- did he leave? there you are. you know i don't think anybody says that there has to be equal numbers. i don't think anybody says that if there is 42% of the population is x than 42% of the newsroom has to be x. i don't think anybody really says that what i do think that what people say is that on balance, it is better to make an effort to have this kind of newsroom diversity and to represent different ideas and points of view. i have been on the end of running a magazine and in trying to achieve that and you know it is pretty hard to do, and you have to put effort into it. >> it is hard to do for liberals. [laughter] >> young lady would you please keep quiet in the first row? >> but it is worth doing. to get to the question -- there is a question we are here to answer. democracy has to be an orchard by the civic