is the initial stage of the project, because it was heavily commemoration-based, inevitably you're goign to get primarily former students and then some faculty. now, we still did collect those and we did collect interviews during the big commemorations like the 35th and then the 40th, which was the last one i attended in 2010, but we also wanted to collect a wide variety of interviews, which we did just kind of informally throughout each year. and so as a result, we cast a bit of a wider net. so, for example, during that five-year period, we interviewed two former presidents of kent state university, michael schwartz and carol cartwright. also interviewed several citizens of the kent community whose voices really had not been heard, they had really not been interviewed that much either. and a member of black united students who eventually became president of b.u.s. after may 4, i think around 1971 and also two members of the ohio national guard as well. we also wanted to have a wider time frame, and by what i mean by that is this. a lot of times when people look at may 4 they focus speci