deficits, which means medicaid, the program for middle class, elderly people, and everybody that is goingrmpoor, to shrivel to a small portion of what is today. those programs are going to suffer, and the people who rely on them are going to suffer. under obama's plan the way you save medicaid and medicare is you reduce the amount of payments to providers, hospitals, drug companies, and other providers, and at the same time you help people avoid getting sick with regard to cancer and heart disease and major killers, and you include deficiencies because you do not rely as much on private insurers and who have administrative costs to go into simply the transactions that put money into people's pockets but have nothing to do with medical care. >> the president chose to spend his political capital on the issue of health care. did he make a mistake by not spending that capital and spending more energy and time on jobs before he got to health care? >> i think they are related. i think the affordable care act will be our major milestone when it comes to coverage people. 40 million people will now have

deficits, which means medicaid, the program for middle class, elderly people, and everybody that is goingrmpoor, to shrivel to a small portion of what is today. those programs are going to suffer, and the people who rely on them are going to suffer. under obama's plan the way you save medicaid and medicare is you reduce the amount of payments to providers, hospitals, drug companies, and other providers, and at the same time you help people avoid getting sick with regard to cancer and heart disease and major killers, and you include deficiencies because you do not rely as much on private insurers and who have administrative costs to go into simply the transactions that put money into people's pockets but have nothing to do with medical care. >> the president chose to spend his political capital on the issue of health care. did he make a mistake by not spending that capital and spending more energy and time on jobs before he got to health care? >> i think they are related. i think the affordable care act will be our major milestone when it comes to coverage people. 40 million people will now have