ieed 20 minutes to half an hour where nobody knows, including myse, whate're gointo do.ht man or e sounds man. so you can dip into what's not written, beyond the mhanics, the intangibl. tavis: let me understd this. this happens in the middle of th show? >> yeah. tavis: ok, got it. they've got to stt somewhere, carlos. >> i know if i seeames brown when he was here o sting or prince, ere's certain things that you want to hea, because you grew up wi it. they're part of -- tavis: par of your d.n.a. >> yeah, you know. t at the same te, i need also to go intthat space wrilt's new for eveybody, you ow. >> is it unfair? you menoned prince. i saw prie the other nht, and iove him. he knows love him, and every time i get a chance to see him, iee him. t you're right. there are thing that fans want t hear. i sometimes sense that en among your fan bas they're waiting for you to get to the uff that they want to hear. almost scenes uair to an artist wn your audnce won't let you go there,ecause they insist on hearing whathey want to hea is that unfai to an artis that peoe won't let you g

. >> and they are gointo do that. >> they are worried in capitol heights. >> i think that they would not level. >> worried because starting next week, they will still have trucks in an ambulance at the fire house, but not enough people to run them all the time. >> there is no reason why in this community we should have 100 people lined up to volunteer. >> it's the reason that their mayor is calling on their residence to step up. to become volunteer firefighters. >> we can get them out there talking to the fire chief as well as our fire chief in town talking about being more aggressive in just in the town and bringing more volunteers. the fire department, they have been around since 1913. but with only 16 volunteers, it has relied on prince george's county to staff the fire house with the paid professionals. until now that is. >> there will be no reduction and covered by the surrounding companies. >> to save money, they are redeploying their employees to other fire houses nearby. while we would love to have all the services that we have had and the money is rolling in. but times are n

i think the bigger question here, david, and yo alluded t it earlier is what is congress gointo do abou this? because it's not an allegation that they were ld to or misled orhat this was held back. that part is true. what's not true is whether it was ieg, and someelievet is an illegal brch of the national security t that say they have no know about programs like this. we know they didn't know, that's a fact. thenhere's the larger questio about their retionship with the obama administtion when it mes to thesessues of disclosure and transpancy and getting to the bottom of this illegal torture rege that we had for eight years. obama has not been happy t do that. congress makes noise and th they withdraw. so willhis be an impetus fo them to, you know, al saddle up invesgations of this and other prrams? we'll have tosee. >> well, especiallbecause if therwas an assassinationing that tice president was directing, that would be an eve clearer constutional violation than the torture pgram. i mean, there no grounds to fend that because th it's so clearly against what haseen writteas a result the

along me the supreme court and by a 5-4 v very close vote, turned it over and saiwe're gointo do it differently. how can you holdhat against her? i mean, she was really takg thlaw as given to her over the years and applying t law to the seof facts she was given. but a lot of people look at that as results-based afrmative action, not trying to creatanqual chance at the starting line which is t goal of affirmative action, an outreach whi all reasonable pele believe in, reaching out to a larger community just the usual wa the way guys get rst dibs on jobs through networking. wh you g to the question of whher if the results of a st come out in favor of t white guys, if you will, and then say we don't like the test because the white guys won it, doe't that seem prima facie like prejudice agnst white guys? let's be honest about it. >> doesn't it? it sounds like a controvel issue that you and i could debate and pple are going to seeifferently. her ro was the role of a judge. theysked her, well, here are the set of facts. she sayswell, as a judge i can tell you we'een these before. in fact, we have see

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>> they think it's a move in the right direction but it's not gointo do all that much. >> and is therer the consumer here? >> i don't really see one. if you've got a car sitting on your lot that you nd to move, go ahead. >> all right, jean chatzky, thanks very much. the program isal cdc.a.r.s. >>> still to come, more financial advice. a panel of experts will answer your pressing questions. >>> still ahead, what you can learn from one family's food makeover. >> plus, are you putting your health at risk to look fashion forward in skinny jeans? meredith will talk about it after your local news and weather. >>> 7:56 is your time now. 70 degrees, looks like hazy skies overhead. is rain in the forecast? tom will have answers after the news. good morning, it's wednesday, july 22, 2009. in the news, don't be surprised to see military planes in the skies above washington. there is no emergency but norad will conduct a training exercise that will include aircraft and coast guard helicopters. >>> nearly a dozen high school students from the area are hospitalized in china after cases of swine flu.

there's a litt complication in how they're gointo be able to do that taken google and build up the ad share bond what it has mbined withahoo! >> charlie: did bg make a difference he at fact, the fact that bing has gotten th miosoft search engeneral as gotten good reviews? >> think bing mad a big difference. nofrom bing, bing is only out for tw months. but it's me a lite bit of in in sre, .4%. is that going to last over time? o knows. yahoo! dn't want to find out. the bi oblem heres that yahoo! really -- they walked away from the most interting fight on the intne right now which is search. and theyanded it over to microsoft for less than any of th previous deals tha were on the table. the foyereal deals on th table go back to 45 or $48 billion fer in february of 2008. the revised search dl which included $8 blion to buy 16% of yahoo! and a billion dollar payment for the searcpart of the buness. the gag l deal that got squashed. this dl washe worst of all the deals. and as steve mentions, the deal introduces a l ofomplexity, right? w you're going to have yaho salepeople selling microsof

do you think? have you projected when you're gointo have to start harvesting in order to be able to do what you do here? >> not really. we're first worried about getting pollinated. that has to come first. >> but then you don't worry about harvest, till then. >> but we are fortunate in as far as we have run into about a two-week cold snap here, which isn't too good for the people that are pollinated and going, but we're going to get pollinated in july and august when typically you have a lot of trouble because of the heat. >> cooler weather during pollinating with a little moisture better than too hot. >> right. you always worry about your late-planted corn especially here, can we get it pollinated without fighting weeks of 100- degree weather, of course here at the corn college that's what i ordered, so it's about perfect, so our crop is kind of jumping i guess you would say in potential because we're going to get it pollinated without the trouble we typically would have this time of the year. >> bob, i'm going to ask you what producers should do now. i'd like to say if you haven't made any decis

doing something. they're making mon on it now. don't know that this is ever gointo come to e. it's not clear. it's a difference of opinion. do i just not parcipate? like people a writing subprime loans i'm a mortgage oginator. that's where all the action is, they're mang a lot of money. and if i s i won't do that, i kind of get left hind. i'm lking old. you're getting owlier and nothing happening. ose kinds of oughts enter, it's not the onomists lately. the esblishedaradigm they don't generallyepresent those nds of human emotions. i think part of what we're doing is influenced by psychology, by uroeconomists -- charlie: what is neural commission? >> ihink that's exciting new branch which i am n -- i am not a practioner of. trying to meld brain research with commission. we have to understandow the brain fctions. they put people in functional gnetic resonance imaging device watch wt's goingn inside their bin -- >> crlie: when they're doing what? >> making enomic decisions. and we -- >> charlie: like what? you make economic decision, buy this hem or not, whher i trade this securitor not? >> let m

do you know which rection the new zealand dollar is gointo go? if not, leave these funds ale, too. while we're dissinfunds with an international fvor, you can safe sidestep the international funds th invest in a sgle overseas country, particularly an emergingarket. unless y have close ties to india, and understd its economy and politi, don't make a financial passage tondia. closer to home, don't inst in a u.s. treasy-only money fund. interest rates a so low now that many trsury-only funds eld exactly zero. you caget better yields and government safety from yr friendly localank. finall look at funds that have rotten records for a lg period of time. sure, they cou get better. but ey usually don't. most people don't need me than six to tenroadly diversified funds with low expenses. all those othefunds do make moy, just not for you. i'm johnaggoner. >> paul: rapping today's maet action, caterpillar's outlook helps lift scks. the w gained 67 points and the nasdaq added almost seven points. and to learnore about the sties in tonight's broadcast, to watch our seaming video and to take par

i feel a little bit of a get here but i nokate knows what she's doing so i'm just gointo stand here. >> rose: her new book, "lacombe animpersona" gathers 192 images spanning her career. she says these colles moments are my life, i'm pleased to have brigitte lacbe at this table for the rst time. so gre to see you. now t me just talk a ltle t about this. is is going to be easy. 're just going to look at your work. a an of your lifetime. rst of all, the boo is dedited simply to your friend >> yes. >> rose: why tt dedication? beuse these people are your friend >> no, no,o. not all. (laughs) not all of tm. but a few ofhem. a few ofhem. and that's a... i havetwo things, i have my worknd my friends, reall and sometimesthey actually re the same thing. >> rose: this introduction is itten by frank rich who says "there is art and there is show biz and a young century overdosing on celebrity exploitation masquering as photojournalism. it's essential to keep the bounries distinct. that's the key to appreciating otographer brigitte lacombe whose work takes her io the realm of show busine but whose

do that. i think she's not going tdo that. shs gointo limit the impact what she said she's going to say in context. i wasust sang, i bring my experiences to the table, as a rmer prosecutor, i al do. as former corporate laer, i and the otherhg that is going to be ve effeive body armor for her is her body of decisis. we've beenalking about the fact that the democrats focus on that, but that is a very,ery important point. she s sat on thoands of cases a there are almosno out which there are any controversy. the only two are the new haven cision and the second amendmentuns decision. that is a remark record. it's a little bit ke sherlock holmes and t dog that didn't rk. that's going to b the body armor thathe's going to pnt out and emphasize at her discretion is goin to be limited by precedent and interrting the constitution and statute >> and cliff, thiis what russ feingold, e of the committee membs had say about the whole questi of judicial activi during his opening statement. >> sma rulings of he conservative majoriton the supreme court ca

do that. they say "postpone." we're gointo have a new stimulus... some arg without a new stimulus we're goi to have a dig bepresention. i was told th today. paul krugman gues that pnt about needing a new stimulus. n this program last week. wh happens if they do that? >> the question in the context our discussion here would be whether the financial markets... but even more so main street would accept en bigger deficits whi such a secon stimulus by definition would cause. because a second stimulus would mean comnation of mor spending and more tax cuts a erefore bigger deficits. >> rose: give me a short primer on deficits. >> well, firstf all, we've never seen deficits of this magnitude either in absote terms-- just the dollaramount ofhe dicit-- or in relative term the size of the deficit to our econy and the growing relationsh of the deb as it grows virtue of thes deficits. never seen theseefore in your lifetime omy lifetime. so for example the deficit for e year we're now in is going to be about a trillion nine. a trillion nine. >> rose:over 2009 the

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, agn, who put together the stimulus package, made number of decisions wch had to do with how quicklyhe money was gointoget out versus other criteria. so for example, there's, thre were number of tax rebate elements in that bill, and that money goes out real quickly and then people spend itver a fewuarters, so that was pretty quick. but there re other parts of the stimulus, infrasucture construion, for example, buildi highways, that kind of thi takes longer and so if you're going to have th in youprogram it takes longer t get out into theconomy. now, giv that the unemployment rate is still likely to reasonably high xt year, fortunately, i think having that stimulus nextear will actuallye helpful and will create some more jobs. so those we the decisions that congress made. we'll have to see w effective thaprogram is. >>lehrer: jack craft has a question about foreclores. >> given the signifance of how - mr >> lehrer: namend mr. >i'm jack craft. 'm a practicing lawyer in kansas city. given the significance of e housing crisisis there any way r the fed to involve itselfn incentivesor thee homeowners or the

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we're gointo have a lotf different things. and what the iraqi peop need to do is uerstand that even though our forces are leafing, we a civilians are not going to leave. we're going to have very prodtive relationship. >> rose: atwhat time will you reach out to america businesses and say "come invt in ira? >> well, we're doing that, but the iraqis have got to do afew things themselve for exampl they've got to sort of clean u some of the croeconomic environment ther they've got to lk at the question of subsidi, things like this. some of these actuallyre-dated saam. theyere from a arab socialist time. anwhereas in easte europe and theis are all gone and ver mu changed, in iraq the are lot of very badeconomic habits from a long te ago. and i thinkoreign firms lookg there, they first he toook at security which is obviously getting better by the day, but they also hav to look at whether this is a country thats really set up to pla by international rules. and that'something else we're working with the iraqis on. >> rose: w can't they pass a hydrocarbon law? >> well, y

igno the 14 trililon in e corner and won't talkbout but wewe're gointo save 15 billion a year. vernor, i have to let you o. dolast word befefore i do that? >> on health ce refm, if they model th after th massacacsetts an and focus just on expandingg acces to the who are uninsured, thas an incomplete reform.. we need to focucusedlso heavily andaybe more heavily not on just e 10% or so on many states th are uninsured but the 90% who aree insured w can't afford t the i crees and massachusetts model l tuallyed to hihigher costs t to a multltr two orhree of what they originallyly predicted. be careful aboutut a health car reform thahat don't talk a aut cost containment for thhe 09 percent who are insusuds the prprimaryobjective. . >> i hope to haveou back around t ts pararticular meetin going forward. enjoy your day.y. thank k y. >> thanknk you. >> i want toet backck on the transpency conversation, though. ifif you wer to lookok from o& watch perspectivevewhat is the primary hurdle,he resistce? in oth words, is ithe poticians themselveves believe they c maintain the secrecycy of thr 19th ctury syst of government i

people who were probably already gointo vote for her se of it, the relt in the other direction was just aintense and thus, you lose independents d centrists and pele who do just naturallshy away from polarization. >> well, what with really happened the is that john mcca undercut his own gument. it was aut sarah palin, but in talking out the campaign, keith, it was ally more about john mccain. john mccain's caincard to independents and centrists was, i'm the guy with more experience and beer judent. and of course, after the sorof lost wnd in st. paul with sarah palin, the next twmonths were the long hanger, the long political hangover. and john mccain's judgnt was undermined by sarapalin's qualifications and prereess to be a heartbeat away from the presidcy. and in that sense, she destroyed the tiet she was picked to save. >> with the number that was in that polabout gop support for her,or the presidency in 2012, are we seeing, you kno in swimming and diving, scores are based on degree diffilty. this particular gets you a faorf six and this dive gets you factor of 12 or whatever the numbers ar did somebody tell e republics thatach vote gets cound on a deg

do you believe that nd of conduct from whiteouse officials ppropriate? >> kelly,there's a lot of spulation about what happened and what didn't happen. i'm not gointok about it. 's a very sensitive program. i will tell you the prram was necessar as i said, the pgr was a neceary program that was constantly reviewed and constantly briefed to e congss. it's an importanpart of protectinghe united states. >> george bu's officially confmed deception was not just by omission but also cmission. the report prepareat the request of congress also revealing in theays after the 9/ attacks the president authorized secret surveillance actities beyond controversial warrantls retapping, which still han't been made public. they were referred to in this report as the president's survllance program. eqlly unsettling the report also stating an unnamewhite house ofcial inserted a paragraph into the firsthreat assessment prepared the cia after the 9/11 attackshich was en used to justify the extraoinary intelligence matters. time now to tu to our own politil analyst, richard wolffe. thanks for yr time and good evening. >> good eveng, keith. >> president bush directly orde

gointo control the pain and the territory. that is a lesson that willome -- that comesovery president but it may well be a difficult sson for this e. charlie: what is specificly this president can do to stoporth korea? >> that's e $64 trillion-dollar-qution. >> charlie: in today's wor it's billions. >> one is that balanceof powe within the iranian government will shift in such a way that peoe within the government will ce to power or will have fluence that don't want t go overheuclear threshold and believe it will be a bad thing a insist othe right to have the full fuel in richment pcess but no nlear weapon. there's a chance of that. that doe't work therere serioueconomic sanctions inuding inserting the american navy in theersian gulf to prevent shipments of resigd petroleum from reaching iran. iran experts oil but has to import refined gasole an if the united stateshould stop that it could shutown the couny and that sure give the regime somethingohink about. the third optio and the most extreme isilitary force. bombing the nuclear weapons' progms facilitie by the united states israel. that would be the mostxtreme version of the effort to stop the nuclear weapons program but it ma

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gointo start with you today because i think i know yr answer. you can get out of t way quickly and let toddend for himself. >> for the rest of the segnt. >> wt should the democrats doa situation like this, anmy guess you're going to say ey should sit back and watch. go ahead, ease. >> yes, was the great lee at water who once said wh your opponents arse-destructing, the best thing to do is get out of the way. i think at would be the best advice for democrats, get ouof the way and enjoy thspectacle cause that's really whatt is here, a spectacle. it's too bad for these people's mily, but it's great television and probably grea ratings. >> all right, steve, get o of the way and enjothspectacle. t todd sweat here. we've got now this lettefrom senator ensign's aorney that i haven't read yet that's just being put in front of us. senator ensi's attorney put out statement today that reads in part, in apl 2008 senator johnnsign's parents each made gifts to douhampton, cindy hampton and two of the chilen in the form of a check totally $96,000. each gift was limited $12,00 e payments were made as gis, accepted as gifts, and complied with tax rules governing gifts aftethe senat

average pers is gointo sit the and say what's going o soso congresis lying to t the c or the cia is lying to cgress d they're probably aptto lieve that both parties here aren't -- are d doinghing b trying tplay polics. at theame time having it out ininublic is not helpful because we know that that can n be a morale issue th on the ground folks s at the c. no doubtbt about i >> it's justst sometng as you said, joe, theyey don't want it. this is s a fight they'd rher have i in the back room not othe front papages. >> exactly. just lea it alone or atat least tatake it out of the ppress. thankschuck. grgreatly preciate it. we'll lk to you soon. kay kay is here. this is huge. >>morning, j. >> g good morng. hohow are yo doing, katty? >> go. >>>> i want to go bk talkingng about the c and the back and forth, chuck todd said t that nody won, katttty, the last time the cia an nancy pelosi hadad te backck and forth. thtruth is actuay if you look at the llup pollsls, e cia won. >>eah, i thinknk th cicia won. >> becauause they askskho do yo trust moreon inrrogation issues, the cia orancy pelosi, nancy pelosi was in the low 30s. the cia in the mid-50s.s. nancy's numbers s slipped about0