interventions he wants to make today and using the government to do that. >> what about that, goldie taylorn the cumulative impact of black mortality and black youth under siege. what more can be done to leverage the authority of that particular office to intervene in specific fashion on the events that we see going on here not only today because as dr. tillet said over the last two or three years. >> frankly change has to happen at the community level for us to sort of parachute in with advocacy and try to plant these seeds and create movements won't be sustainable unsless and until we can partner with those communities and those people on the street venting their frustrations and unless we can partner with them directly to sow the seeds of change. >> goldie taylor. remember lbj, linden baines johnson was involved in the white house to set the tone. >> but remember, lyndon johnson gave speeches from the white house saying we would intervene, and john f. kennedy insisting we will do something here. you are right in terms of forging links with the local community, but often the federal gover

like to bring in msnbc contributor goldie taylor. i'm sure you were watching as news broke of this independent autopsy that's just been released showing michael brown shot six times in the front. twice in the head and in the arm. what was your reaction upon hearing that? >> i think having read it, it leaves more questions than it answers. it says he was shot in the top of the head and presumably he was leaning forward he may have been leaning forward in pain or to surrender. we don't know. we don't know how far away he was when the shot was taken. what we know is there was no gun on his body. his clothes weren't with him during the second autopsy. there's no way to know for certain if there was gun residue on him. >> tell me about your thoughts on how this will change the dynamic and the perspective the protesters will have upon hearing this. i'm sure they are following this. and the curfew, we are coming upon the curfew in ferguson. what's the reaction you anticipate? are you there, goldie? >> looks like we have lost our connection

and joining me now is goldie taylor. i should note here goldie is in st.ouis but not as representative of msnbc. so goldie, thank you very much, for informing me about this story at all. i was out of town and just happened to look and saw on your timeline that you were tweeting a lot about this story. how do you think that social media has shaped not only this story but sort of the way we experience incidents like this? >> well, i certainly think social media has changed the face of news. it's changed the way news operations does its business on a daily basis. while certainly there are some news operations who don't have but a skeletal staff maybe over the weekend, such as this happened on a saturday, social media fills that in. so you're able to receive pictures directly from a scene. you're able to receive live tweets directly from a scene that give you the look and feel for truly how things are unfolding. on the other hand, you have the opportunity for a lot of misinformation. so i think i've challenged people over the weekend and others have to be care

want to bring in the president and director of naacp legal defense fund and msnbc contributor goldie taylore. i can't imagine this situation continuing the way it is. >> well, there needs to be leadership. what's got to give is the failure of leaders, elected leaders to step up in that state. i remarked earlier, chris, that people are talking about the police. appropriately we're spending a lot of time talking about the police activity. should be explaining to them whether there was a curfew, why there's a curfew, whether they approve of the actions of the police and what they expect to unfold over the next few days. there has to be leadership. that is the only way we're going to have a break in what we've seen happening the last four days. >> is this a wake-up call for the st. louis metro area? >> i hope so. i hope this is a wake-up call. and to speak to the point of who should step in and who should do what, i think a little historical context is necessary. there is a void here in this region in terms of leadership. there's a void in terms of organization. there's a void in terms of addre

joining me now is msnbc contributor and managing editor for fault line, jps goldie taylor. goldie, it's a peculiar verdict in that he was convicted of second-degree murder and manslaughter. why is that? >> sure. you know, those are two very different charges. and second-degree murder happens to be a homicide in commission of another felony. that felony in michigan was manslaughter. and thus you have two charges. it's rare, but prosecutors sometimes take this strategy to get as many charges on the bail b table to make sure that we're appeal proof and we're going to get the maximum sentence. >> when you watched that prosecutor delivering that final statement, he presented this as a very deliberate act. by theodore wafer. >> you don't pull the trigger on a 12 gauge shotgun by accident. it's a very deliberate act, the motions you have to take, the aim you have to take. we're not talking about a hair trigger. we're talking about something that takes the force of weight to pull that trigger. so as mr. wafer said the night -- the day that he was finally arrested, that this gun some

joining me now, msnbc contributor goldie taylor who is in ferguson tonight. , what are things like in ferguson right now? >> you know, the tensions are still fairly high. although not quite as high as last night. i hear that there's an incident at a nearby mall, but we're not certain that it's related to the recent unrest. >> what is the context for what we are seeing in ferguson county? it seems to me that the -- there's some buildup that has happened before this incident happened over the weekend. >> well, i will tell you this, that north st. louis county is comprised of dozens of small jurisdictions, tiny townships, 20,000 people or less. and that those tiny townships over the last 30 to 40 years were all white. but now those townships are increasingly more african-american as in ferguson's case, some 85%, but if you look at the arrest rate, if you look at the traffic stops, disproportionately, they are african-american. especially when you start to look at citations and arrests and outcomes. so you're starting to see some real tension begin to flare up bet

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they have been calling for justice and goldie taylor still with me, raul reyes with me. raul, we're going to keep an eye on this. they're not quite done. we'll stick with this live rally. raul, something you said that was kind of a theme we saw during this. everybody has a positive message of unity and uplifting but also they were kind of following the same drum beat about the investigation, at least. saying the facts of the case -- they're almost making their case here for what they want to happen next in this whole investigation. >> right. i think it is important in this type of community forum where unlike that frenzied, chaotic press conference yesterday where they have the attention and the respect of the community, that they are reminding people of just what they are seeking, how there is so much we don't know about the specific facts of the case and just reminding people what is at the heart of all this, which is that all the questions surrounding the death of michael brown. i think that's important. i also thought it was very important in reverend al's speech whe

joining me now is msnbc contributor goldy taylor who is in ferguson.hat are things leak in ferguson right now? >> the tensions are still fairly high, although not quite as high as last night itch hear there was an incident at a nearby mall but we're not sure it's related to he recent unrest. >> what is the context for what we're seeing in ferguson county? seems to me that the -- there are some buildup that has happened before this incident happened over the weekend. >> well, i will tell you that north st. louis county is prized of dozens of small jurisdictions, tiny townships, 20,000 people or less, and those tiny townships were all white and now they're increasingly more african-american, as in ferguson's case, some 85%, but if you look at the arrest rate, if you look at traffic stops, disproportionately they are african-american, especially when you start to look at citations and arrests and outcomes, so you're starting to see tensions flairing up between what seems to still be a fairly white leadership in terms of mayors and police chiefs, and a bla

joining me now is msnbc contributor and managing editor for front lines, goldie taylor. verdict in that he was convicted of second degree murder and manslaughter. why is that? >> those are two very different charges. second degree murder happens to be a homicide in commission of another felony. that felony in michigan was manslaughter. it's rare but prosecutors sometimes take this to get as many charges on the table to make certain that we are appeal proof and we're going to get the max sentence. >> when you watched that prosecutor delivering that final statement, he presented this as a very deliberate act by theodore wafer. >> you don't pull the trigger on a 12 gauge shotgun by accident. it's a very deliberate act. there are motions you have to take. we're not talking about a hair trigger, but something that takes the force of weight to pull that trigger. the day he was arrested, he said this gun went off on its own. just the evidence could not bear that out. then he changed his story and said this was self-defense. i think those conflicting statements are what the jury

joining me now, msnbc contributor goldie taylor who is in ferguson tonight. ldie, what are things like in ferguson right now? >> you know, the tensions are still fairly high. although not quite as high as last night. i hear that there's an incident at a nearby mall, but we're not certain that it's related to the recent unrest. >> what is the context for what we are seeing in ferguson county? it seems to me that the -- there's some buildup that has happened before this incident happened over the weekend. >> well, i will tell you this, that north st. louis county is comprised of dozens of small jurisdictions, tiny townships, 20,000 people or less. and that those tiny townships over the last 30 to 40 years were all white. but now those townships are increasingly more african-american as in ferguson's case, some 85%, but if you look at the arrest rate, if you look at the traffic stops, disproportionately, they are african-american. especially when you start to look at citations and arrests and outcomes. so you're starting to see some real tension begin to flare up

goldie taylor, this is about curbing behavior. what's your reaction tonight? >> i do believe that the plan that commissioner goodell put out today was comprehensive. i think it it starts on the front end with having the support necessary for the players and their families and their sig give kant others that surround them. there are support in fact of therapeutic avenues of approach that are necessary and i think well is the hard hammer of sanctions that come down. six-game suspension for a first-time offense, but that doesn't include for all those agitating circumstances that surround it including having a child present or whether the woman involve side pregnant and those things will exacerbate what that penalty could be, but having a lifetime ban after a second incident, i believe, with no guarantee that you're petitioned after a year will be heard, i believe it's one of those things that could be a curb to this kind of behavior. let me correct something here. there is an over incidents of domestic violence within the nfl. there absolutely is. it's underrepor

let's go to the msnbc contributor goldie taylor. as we approach 40 minutes into this curfew, what are your thoughts? with so many moving pieces here and then the information we are getting from this report as we are coming up 40 minutes into the curfew. >> i think that we are at a measured peace at the moment. i don't know what will happen come morning after we have them release the full results of a second autopsy. it seems to me that information remains controversial. i don't know how much more this community can take in terms of disjointed information coming to them. i truly wish we had more people on the ground in positions of authority who frankly trained in crisis communication and trained in how to disseminate information in a transparent way that is not quite so upsetting and doesn't have a meaningful relationship with the officers that patrol them. i made a mistake earlier tonight. i said that the officer was from chesterfield. he is from crestwood, missouri. a 97% community community, but still affluent. we have to be very

joining me now are goldie taylor and susan milligan.nk you both for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you, reverend. >> susan, the republicans sue the president one day for taking executive actions and then telling them to take more executive actions. doesn't it show they aren't serious? >> it remind mess of that joke, rev, where the cup sl complaining about a restaurant and the one says the food is terrible and the other says, i know, and the portions are so small. you can't have it both ways. you can't threaten legal action which most people don't think is going to be uphead in the courts anyway and ask him to take action because they're incapable of doing it. right now they're struggling to get enough support for a show vote on immigration, not even real legislation. what surprises me is they haven't learned from their mistakes in terms of what an electoral mistake this is. impeachment didn't work for them in the past. shutting down the government didn't work for them in the past. not raising the debt ceiling didn't work. i know the

. >>> we're back, with us, mike of "slate" and goldie taylor, also managing editor of fault lines gpsd to read this to you, this little dispatch from ravens.com. after this all happened. in his first appearance in training camp, he got a standing ovation, this is ray rice. "i'm wearing his jersey because he's still a good man. i'm happy to support ray rice like he's always supported our community." what do you do with that? >> you know, i'm not exactly sure what to do with it, but i will point out, chris, that twice that i've talked about what happened to me, publicly, you have been the host of those shows and so this week as i decided to talk about it again, i have spoken about it with no one else except you. i trust the form. in terms of ray rice and what's happening with the nfl, you have to look and see how the nfl treated this. how did the commissioner treat this ordeal? while ray rice was suspended for two games, steven a. rice didn't hit anybody. he talked badly about it. was suspended for a week. and so we've got to really take a hard look at how the nfl over the years has han

we also want to go to goldie taylor. this all comes hours after this rally was held there, you know, the reverend al stamp sharpton spoke. there was a real call for peace. this was just hours ago. and then this. >> you know, i think that community leaders are grasping at whatever piece of peace that they can have. one church service two or three hours long won't serve the decades of tension that have been arising in st. louis county. the fact of the matter is the gee yoe political framework in around my home city, 90 jurisdictions, one county is blowing follow-up in their face tonight. they don't have experience in crowd control of this magnitude. you know, on the other hand, you don't have a communities that is -- has any depth of the experience in collective action. what you do have is pure chaos on the ground. what i'm told tonight from friends and family on the ground is that this started with a very peaceful impromptu party at that quiktrip. that they were barbecuing, that they weren't being violent tonight. that so

want to bring in the president and director of naacp legal defense fund and msnbc contributor goldie taylorg's got to give here. i can't imagine this situation continuing the way it is. >> well, there needs to be leadership. what's got to give is the failure of leaders, elected leaders to step up in that state. i remarked earlier, chris, that people are talking about the police. appropriately we're spending a lot of time talking about the police activity. people have been talking about what the federal government can do. those are both important questions. somewhere between the chief of police and the president of the united states our elected officials in ferguson in that county and in that state. i'm very gratified to hear governor nixon say that he will not be at the state fair tomorrow but that he intends to try and address this situation. i think that the local elected officials in ferguson who, by the way, are the bosses of the chief of police should be talking to their constituents. should be explaining to them whether there was a curfew, why there's a curfew, whether they approve of

anthea butler, goldie taylor. thank you for being here. >>> and after the break, we'll continue our coverage with a look at the ferguson police department and how a collapse of a neighboring department brought officer wilson to ferguson. >>> plus, kadiatou diallo and nicole pal tray bell will be here to talk about what the brown family is facing now. [ woman ] the cadillac summer collection is here. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] during the cadillac summer's best event, lease this all-new 2014 cts for around $459 a month or purchase with 0% apr. hurry in -- this exceptional offer ends soon. co: until you're sure you do.you need a hotel room or purchase with 0% apr. bartender: thanks, captain obvious. co: which is why i put the hotels.com mobile app on my mobile phone. hotels.com i don't need it right now. (vo) friday night has un and t the harrison household. but one dark, stormy evening... she needed a good meal and a good family. so we gave her purina cat chow complete. it's great because it has the four cornerstones of

. >> goldie taylor, thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. golddie joining us tonight. >> thanks, lawrence. >>> right now on "first look." we begin with the president on iraq. >> to, i authorized two operations in iraq. targeted air strikes to protect our american personnel, and a humanitarian effort to help save thousands of iraqi civilians. >> the united states military is taking on isis head on in a race against time the israeli 72-hour cease-fire is ending. and the planet is in the midst of the largest ebola outbreak ever reported. hawaii being pummelled with torrential rains, high seas and high winds at this very moment. >>> thanks for joining us. the u.s. military launched targeted rocket attacks against isis. families fleeing isis are trapped. the president says it is time to act. >> today, america is coming to help. we've begun operations to help iraqi civilians stranded on the mountain. descend the mountain and be slaughtered or stay and slowly die of thirst and hunger. forces below have called for the systematic destruction of the e

. >> joining me now, opinion writer, goldie taylor and republican strategist joe watkins. die, i'll start with you here. how much of what we're seeing in ferguson is all about racial disparity, as governor nixon says, are these, quote, old wounds? >> you know, i think that at the end of the day these are about the facts of the case and did this officer have probable cause to engage this young man? did he have the legal right and the right to continue shooting? that does happen in the context of the racial issues that continue to per va st. louis county. i went to high school in ferguson, the very high school that michael brown went to. i'm well aware of the tensions that occur and continue to occur decades over the decades but it's the context in which this kind of thing happened. >> did you ever witness things, goldie, that you felt were unfair, that were just wrong or racially profiling in your time there? >> i think my parents advised us of how to conduct ourselves. we suspected that and knew that in our hearts as we grew but looking at the stats just the other day reall

. >> goldie taylor, thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >>> up next, our live coverage of the breaking news on the situation in iraq continues with ari melber in for chris hayes tonight. >>> tonight, we are all in. >> today i authorized two operations in iraq. targeted air strikes to protect our american personnel, and a humanitarian effort to help save thousands of iraqi civilians. >> breaking news. the president authorizes air strikes in iraq to protect u.s. personnel and to prevent genocide in iraq. we'll have the latest. >>> one man's mission. a california business owner is facing death threats after providing shelter to a family fleeing violence in guatemala. he'll join us live tonight. and the kansas city chiefs reach out to local native american tribes wild t-- while the washington redskins team owner double downs. >>> good evening. it is 11:00 p.m. in new york, 6:00 a.m. in baghdad. we are covering breaking news in the wake of the unusual white house address when the president announced he authorized potential air strikes against terror groups

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i have here with me some of my colleagues, goldie taylor, many of you know as an msnbc contributor doingfantastic reporting and commentary on this story out of ferguson, missouri. also in studio with me, jalani cobb, raul reyes, jim cavanaugh, msnbc.com law enforcement analyst. so good to have all of you here with us. i want to also let folks know we have our todd johnson with me as well who's been doing some reporting there for us on the ground. he is the home page editor of the grio.com in ferguson, missouri. goldie, let me start with you. i wasn't able to talk to you personally. after the curfew went into place. what was your reaction? we'll get your reaction to what we saw on the streets last night but just the reaction to the fact that a curfew was put in place yesterday? what was your reabc news to that? >> i think historically i have some moral difficulties with curfews in a country where we are the home of the free and the brave. however, i stand behind those community organizers on the ground who wanted to respect the curfew last evening. but how you see this curfew really depen