goldwater beat him out for the nomination in 1964. goldwater led them on a wild losing campaign that year that espoused extremism over moderation. 50 years later, are the tea partiers determined to keep the party peru? we put it on the matthews meter. the meter is split. i haywood them, 6-6. gloria, you are a member and you voted no. >> i think it's a long way between now and twelve. let's see they do in elections. independent voters are beginning to criticize the tea party more and more. i believe you can have a presidential nominee in the republican party that doesn't have to have every part of the tea party. chris: dan, do you think they have enough power to demand that at least one of the two team on the ticket is a tea party hero? >> yes. we have to see what happens in november. if the tea party makes the kind of impact in this november's election that is widely perceived here and now, i think they will have in effect veto power. they will say if we don't, we will run an independent party campaign. >> sarah palin, the leader of t

influence advisor said to him well barry gold watter who was running against him that year, barry goldwater is going to say you lack courage, you lack guts. you've got to appear tough so then johnson made a big thing out of the tonkin gulf, went to congress, got the resolution and we were off on the wrong, wrong road. >> woodruff: too worried about what the other -- >> what the other party would say. >> woodruff: charles peter is the author. thank you very much for talking with us. >> i've enjoyed it, judy, thank you. >> lehrer: again, the major developments of the day: president obama signed a bill providing another $600 million for border security. on the "newshour", the secretary of homeland security, janet napolitano, said border security is only part of the answer. she urged leaders from both parties to back comprehensive immigration reform. the "newshour" is always online. hari sreenivasan, in our newsroom, previews what's there. hari? >> sreenivasan: on "the rundown" news blog, tom bearden writes about the unexpected battle lines in the debate over reopening fishing grounds in the gu

my dad ran for vice president, with barry goldwater. very conservative, catholic. i spent years thinking they would judge me. i judged them. when i came out to them they couldn't be more loving and supportive. it is a critical time in a critical civil rights struggle in our country. it is incumbent upon me or anybody else to put a human face to it say it is your sister, your favorite radio host, your brother. i was inspired by shelly wright, my friend the country singer who just came out. that takes courage. i think it is a time when you need to say, i am not going to keep cheering gay rights from the side linize will step on the battlefield and beep part of it. >> larry: do you think you are fighting windmills do you think it is coming, because interracial marriage was the law until 1967, a black couldn't marry a white, and made similar arguments to what you make? >> no, not at all. no, no, no. i know. but they're not similar. i will tell you why they're not similar. there is nothing in common between race and gender. this is a massive confusion of all advocates o

but as you know, my dad ran for vice president with barry goldwater. very conservative family.epublican, catholic. part of my message is i spent so many years thinking they would judge me that i judged them. when i came out to them they couldn't have been more loving and supportive. and it is a critical time, larry, in a critical civil rights struggle, i think, in our country, where it is incumbent upon me or anybody else to put a human face to it, to say it is your sister, it's your favorite radio host, it's your brother, it's -- i was inspired by shelly wright, my friend who's the country singer who just came out. that takes courage. i think it is a time when you need to say, i am not going to keep cheering gay rights from the sidelines, i'm going to step down on the battlefield and be part of it. >> larry: dennis, frankly, do you think you're fighting windmills? do you think it's coming? because interracial marriage was the law until 1967. >> correct. >> larry: a black couldn't marry a white. and they made similar arguments to what you make. >> no, not at all and -- >> larry

every service chief under oath said the goldwater-nichols is the best thing that ever happened to the united states military. if we get along right, we can address this problem but we need informed citizens that vote and have an opinion and the white house and congress and we can figure it out. >> please join me in welcoming him -- in banking it has have mike mcconnell. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2010] >> in a few moments, the defense secretary robert gates. then the debate with the republican candidates for governor in georgia. and then the economic impact of community health centers. on "washington journal," we will talk about the special session of the house this week to consider an aid package for the state. our guest will be the chairman of the ways and means committee and republican representative. our week-long special on energy issues focuses on electrical cars with the ceo of compact power. "wise and internal" is live every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern. if the secretary robert gates today laid out pla

every service chiefs and secretary stood up in sworn testimony and said to congress, if you pass the goldwater nichols bill that -- it will ruin the united states military. it will make us ineffective. the bill would pass and the president sign it and we went through desert shield and desert storm. i got to watch. after the war, that whenever to talk about how well he had done. if we can get a lot right, we can address this problem, but it is going to take a partnership with the public, informed citizen to vote to have eight -- an opinion, and the white house and congress. >> please join me in thanking our guest. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2010] >> in a few moments, robert gates. in an little less than an hour, a debate between the republican candidate for governor in georgia. after that, more on the economic effect of community health centers. >> on "washington journal tomorrow morning, we will talk about the special session of the house this week to consider a package for the states. our guest will be

guard because we forget that those who were -- the old guard now were our age when they can pay for goldwater, campaigned for reagan organize the very first cpac, wrote books like "god and man" at yale and they did it without computers, facebook, the internet. the stakes are high now and the american people are on our -- at our side. don't forget the conservative revolution in 2010 started with the tea party and we need their help in beijing people in the college campus to make sure we have conservative victories in november. thanks. [applause] >> this might just be a wild guess, but that might be one of the only panels we have that discusses jersey shore and snooki. it's just a random observation. we are going to go ahead and take questions. we have two microphones. i am sure you have a lot of questions regarding the tea party. >> my name is naftali rifkin. of the new tea party caucus -- how does it hinder or help what is supposed to be a grass roots movement? >> i guess the question is for anybody. >> it was michelle bachmann, right, that announced it i guess last week or something i think

we forget that people who are considered the old guard now were our age when they campaigned for goldwater, campaigned for reagan. they did it all without twister, facebook or the internet. the stakes are high. the american people are on our side and they are willing to fight. do not forget that the conservative movement in 2010 started with the tea party. we need your help in gauging people on your campus to ensure that we have victories in november. thank you. [applause] >> and this is a wild guess, but that might be the only panel we have that discusses jersey shore. anyway, we are going to go ahead and take questions. we have to microphones up here. i'm sure you guys have a lot of questions. >> my question is about the new tea party caucus in congress. how does that hinder or help what is supposed to be a grass- roots movement? i guess the question is for anybody. >> it was michele bachmann denounced the tea party caucus -- announced the tea party caucus. i think it is a sign of success. i do not know if the caucus becomes important or not. we will wait to see what happens. but what yo

i think now we see barry goldwater and dr. king did. glenn beck is trying to use religion rather than really deal with the real issue. i'm a minister. i want us to turn to god, but i want us to turn to god. >> is perhaps the most disapainting thing, mr. jealous, we have two rallies, same day, and one is predominantly white and the other is predominantly african-american? would that not disappoint dr. king? >> on october 2nd we'll have a rally called one nation. it will be a large rally, it will be there at the lincoln, and you'll see people of all faiths. we have 3,000 buses confirmed right now and you can look at who will be driving those buses and you will see dr. king's dream made manifest. let's not forget about the rally in d.c. and our crowd is very much a local crowd. you saw from the speakers there, secretary duncan, a wide range of people, and those are the folks who are coming together for the one nation rally and will be leading their folks there. >> i think, matt, dr. king was also criticized in '63 for having mostly blacks

we forget that people who are considered the old guard now were our age when they campaigned for goldwater, campaigned for reagan. they did it all without twister, facebook or the internet. the stakes are high. the american people are on our side and they are willing to fight. do not forget that the conservative movement in 2010 started with the tea party. we need your help in gauging people on your campus to ensure that we have victories in november. thank you. [applause] >> and this is a wild guess, but that might be the only panel we have that discusses jersey shore. anyway, we are going to go ahead and take questions. we have to microphones up here. i'm sure you guys have a lot of questions. >> my question is about the new tea party caucus in congress. how does that hinder or help what is supposed to be a grass- roots movement? i guess the question is for anybody. >> it was michele bachmann denounced the tea party caucus -- announced the tea party caucus. i think it is a sign of success. i do not know if the caucus becomes important or not. we will wait to see what happens. but what yo