i have known barry goldwater for a long time. when i hear people say he's impulsive and such nonsense, i boil over. >> ronald reagan telling america that he's mad. he is boiled over with rage over allegations that barry goldwater might not have the appropriate emotional temperament to be president. i'm mad. don't say he's mad. probably didn't help. but because that is what the american people thought about barry goldwater, that he was a little -- the goldwater/miller loss was the worst presidential loss in the modern era of presidential politics. the difference between goldwater picking miller and romney picking ryan are stunning. the same kind of pick with the same kind of rationale. they put miller on the ticket because he was essentially seen as being super republican. they didn't think they could get new york state with him, where he was from, but they liked his partisanship. in the house, he had never really passed something of significant. neither has paul ryan, but he had a leadership role in the republican party. he had b

he and barry goldwater lost very badly. but it wasn't for the lack of awesome ads like this one. >> senator barry goldwater speaking with general eisenhower at gettysburg. >> we speak about war and peace and in this candacecy that we are engaged in, because we stress the need for a strong america, our opponents are referring to us as warmongers, and i'd like to know what your opinion of that would be. you've known me a long time and you've known miller a long time. >> barry, in my mind this is actual tommy rot. >> campaign ads were different then. despite the awesomeness of having ike on their side, calling their critics tommy rot, barry goldwater and bill miller, last republican ticket to have somebody from the house of representatives as vp, miller and goldwater got clobbered. and i don't think it was because of the choice of miller for v.p. i think it was more of this. >> i asked to speak to you because i'm mad. i've known barry goldwater for a long time, and when i hear people say he's impulsive and such nonsense, i boi

since goldwater had no choice, it had electoral rationale. >> there is nobody that goldwater could have qualified the nurenberg trials. chairman of the rnc. awes -- he liked to shoot stuff from the air too. >> stephanie: he refers to the fact that my father interrogated guerin. i think sarah palin may not have been done as well. >> don't you know. >> stephanie: the queen's in charge of you, right? all right. >> who's the queen of germany. >> stephanie: the relative obscurity in the american express commercial. he had a great sense of humor. the point of doing that, it is like bob dole doing commercials. >> for viagra. >> stephanie: doesn't make him some kind of joke. he had a great sense of humor. they came to him obviously to do that. he had a sense of humor about it. so "the new york times" piece ends with so ryan like william miller may seem attractive to republicans and tempting him into an awkward gaffe. ryan faces the task of demonstrating his reputation as a budget wonk and a republican intellectual. for the budget he hasn't run the numbers on. in the house rests more on the mark

i have always been fascinated by it. >> host: by a new think of barry goldwater and conservatives and libertarians, is there a difference? >> it has been watered down. people don't know what it means. but we were upset with obama's making this spending worse but not have the under george bush. many people call themselves libertarian as a constitutional conservative with limited government. >> host: you spent spent -- wrote this before spending time in the senate. now what would you change? has your thinking changed at all? >> i feel i and stand the impasse to get things done. i have tried to take ideas many democrats have put forward but then be the head narrative is we will not talk with them but to all i am trying to meet with democratic reform. it could be saved if we've gradually raise the age and means test but no democrats will discuss entitlement reform. >> host: your party? >> cafe and half. i am equally critical all 47 senators are for the balanced budget but when we cut $7 million from sugar subsidies we just tried to cut 1 penny which is 7 million per year. that is 140,000

and i've always been that mated by goldwater. >> host: and when you think of barry goldwater and you think of conservatives and libertarians, is there a difference between a conservative and a libertarian, and where do you see yourself? >> guest: yeah. and in some ways the word conservative has been watered down enough that people aren't sure what it means because, you know, george w. bush ran as a conservative, but he doubled the debt, and he was very much, too many of us, a profligate spender himself, and we were upset with president obama making it worse, but we really weren't happy with the republican years under george bush. so i think many people call themselves libertarian sort of to designate themselves more a constitutional conservative with the real, true belief in limited government. >> host: you wrote this during, before you spent any time in the u.s. senate. now after a couple of years of being in the u.s. senate, what would you change in here, if anything, and has your mind, your thinking changed at all? >> guest: i would say that going up there i feel that i understand

addition to be called a tea party or reconstitution will conservative i have also been called a goldwater conservative by supporters of critics. it is both accurate and an honor to be described as such. >> guest: i reread the conscience of the conservative and it was first published in shepherdsville, kentucky. i met the publisher and he gave me an original copy and i reread it and i have always been fascinated and when you think of barry goldwater and conservatives and libertarians. >> host: is there a difference between a conservative and libertarian? >> guest: the word conservative has been watered down enough that people are not sure what it means. george w. bush ran as a conservative but double the debt and was very much to many of us suspender himself. we were upset with president obama making it worse with republican years. many people call themselves libertarian sort of to designate themselves more as constitutional conservative with a true believer in limited government. >> host: you wrote this before you spend any time in the u.s. senate. now after a couple years being in the u.

barry goldwater found out the hard way that what might excite folks in the hall might also sink your hopes in the fall. >> extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. >> that also backfired on fritz mondale in 1984. >> mr. reagan will raise taxes, and so will i. he won't tell you. i just did. chris: that may be the first and last time a guy promised to do you harm. i'm going to raise your taxes. what's obama -- how is he going to handle it? he is a populist. he is working against the rich and taxes. >> the country, by large margins, wants to see taxes raised on the rich. the president's team and their policy proposals are where the country is on that issue. what he has to avoid is coming off in any way sounding like he's deny grading the entrepreneurship of businesses. they've got to stay away from that, miles away. chris: you said earlier in the show that you think the harry truman populism works. >> that's true. he has the majority of americans by virtue of their income on his side. whether they'll vote for him is another thing. john is right about the points he made there. it

. >> very few people can forget barry goldwater, but that ad comes up, exemplifies modern day negativepaigning. >> five, four, three, two, one -- zero. >> yeah. that's the granddaddy of them all. that's the one that set the modern standard for how to really go after your opponent. especially because the feature in the ad was a nuclear war and during the cold war, people were terrified of nuclear conflict. so the johnson campaign used that fear to make people afraid of a barry goldwater presidency, this guy's dangerous, he's going to lead us to nuclear war. that ad is remembered for kirking off a lot of the negativity we have today. >> fear is still a common thread when it comes down to negative campaigning. >> everything boils down in a negative campaign to fear. you want to make the voters afraid of your opponent. >> then there was the willie horton, that famous ad in the 1980s used very effectively against michael dukakis. >> the bush strategy that year was to go after michael dukakis. lee atwater, bush's campaign manager, was asked what the strategy is. he said we're going to scrape

goldwater was trounced and they want a unifieed message but some aren't getting that message. >> there's opportunity here because the new cbs poll which again, as the other polls have shown, showed a static race. it's basically tied. we're talking about 46 for president obama, 45 for mitt romney, no difference at all. there's a really interesting number here. the number of people who say they are still undecided about who mitt romney is. they have not been persuaded one way or the other by all of the negative ads, they have not been persuaded by his success or failure in defining himself. they still don't know who he is. that is a large number of people who are open to suggestions. >> that's who he will be talking to on thursday night. he will be talking to those people who are the undecided. he knows he's got the republican base at this point. my guess is that the ron paul people will make some noise here, but will see very little of it on television, because they don't have that many seats on the floor, frankly, and that will be a tightly controlled convention as they now are. what mit

restless tea partyers probably won't get as bad as 1964, when barry goldwater things impossible for nelson rockefeller, chanting while he spoke, "we want barry." >> it's danger to the party. [crowd chanting "we want barry"] >> well, four years later with the vietnam war the big story, riots outside the convention hall in chicago stole the spotlight from vice president hubert humphrey, who was saddled with lyndon johnson's war. he never recovered from those images in the chicago streets. sam, this is the old question of campaigns and conventions, especially conventions. what picture are you going to give to the country? here's the question for the democrats. ironically it's not too much noise and excitement, it's complacency, minorities, people who may not vote. how does he energize them? >> he's going to give the country bill clinton. he'll be the star of the democratic convention. how does barack obama repeat himself? third time. 2004, 2008, that guy? we've heard this before. >> doesn't he have to, to win? >> yes, in a sense of the my prediction is that he'll rise up. this president at th

we're showing you the past republican nominee acceptance speeches next barry goldwater in 1964 then nixon's remark and later george w. bush in 2,000 and john mccain's remarks from 2008. the 1964 republican convention was held at the palace in san francisco which was the site of the 1956gop convention and shows arizona senator barry goldwaters a their presidentiam nominee, well yem millioner was the rng mate. he would lose in november to lyndon johnson. here is some of the speech to delegates in july 1964.

not a former candidate very goldwater so you know tried to disrupt his convention back in the sixty's so the people still right now at this hour. are very not we're not on the way at all before this roll will happen still at this moment people thinking something big could be it could happen here of course if it does live we're going to keep you updated right christine thanks so much for keeping a close eye on everything over there in tampa look forward to hearing more from you that was our t. white house correspondent christine. we turn out to ask the question when does the crime fit the punishment the punishment i'm talking about involves u.s. troops and their actions into a high profile cases and afghanistan one case involves marines urinating on corpses and the other case deals with u.s. soldiers burning copies of the koran r t was the first network to report on the video showing four marines urinating on the bodies of what appears to be three dead taliban insurgents as you can see the marines are in full combat gear this video set off a firestorm of controversy here in the u.s. mo

lyndon johnson implied barry goldwater would start a nuclear war. grover cleveland?dlock-"ma ma where's my pa? andrew jackson was accused of killing a man, and having a wife who was a bigamist. john quincy adams? it was said he procured prostitutes for the russian tsar. thomas jefferson? john adam's supporters once said his election would result in, "murder, robbery, rape, adultery, and incest." so until we get charges oo robbery, nuclear war-starting, or prostitute procuring, maybe this will have to wait . the president is taking things to a new low. they might be mean, cruel and cynical, but negative campaigns are not blights on history,they are our history. -----end----- cnn.script----- manny machado's firt mistake... mistake...see if it cost the o's... next in sports. ((break 3)) when it comes to getting my family to eat breakfast, i need all the help i can get. that's why i like nutella. mom, what's the capital of west virginia? charleston. nutella is a delicious hazelnut spread my whole family loves. mom, have you seen my -- backpack? nutella goes great on whol

barry goldwater was once giving advice to richard nixon. how's that for a horrific combination? and when asked like how would you build a coalition, goldwater said go hunting where the ducks are. if you want to get elected, find the votes. abraham lincoln is the guy who said god must love the poor people, he made so many of them. if you want to get elected, the democratic party has always had, to the extent of the democrats have what they embody. they've got no money, they've got no resources. god knows, as what roger said, they are not organized. but if you want to build a political coalition, you are going to take chances if you can bring in a new immigrant groups, african-americans who at that time were voting only in the urban north, and always for republicans. so he went hunting where the ducks were. >> thank you. >> sure. i don't know if that actually helps, but. other questions? [inaudible] >> all those ducks. [inaudible] >> okay, i did not know that. [inaudible] yes. i'm going to get this wrong so this is completely unfair. you said that there were concerted efforts made

and i will say this before we throw to barry goldwater.racial subtext. the fact of the matter is, it was both a legitimate issue and also with a candidate who was imposing the civil rights act, there was a taint there from its beginning. here's barry goldwater in '64 with that famous call. >> republicanism so focused and so dedicated not be made fuzzy and futile by unthinking and stupid labels. i would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. and let me remind you, also, that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. >> michael, what's your sense of the effect of the kind of, the southern strategy, these 30 years later and how the party pivots away from the legacy of that, if that is the idea in terms of producing a more diverse party? >> well, i'll be very clear about it. when i became chairman the day i accepted the vote, i declared very emphatically that the southern strategy was officially dead. that the party would shake that dust from its heels and move forward in a new direction focused on different t

. >> i remind you that extremism in defense of liberty -- >> barry goldwater, the 1964 republican candidate who lost to lyndon b. johnson and 730 eastern and pacific. this weekend on c-span3. >> at the foot of that bridge, i was speaking. -- beaten. i thought i was going to die. >> 1965, john lewis took part in a voting rights march in montgomery alabama 0 that took him across a bridge. >> we came within hearing distance of the state troopers. a man identified himself and said, i am a major of alabama state troopers. this is an unlawful march and it will not be allowed to continue. one of the young people walking beside me said give us a moment to kneel and pray. the major said -- >> "a cross that bridge." sunday at 8:00 p.m. on c-span's "q&a." >> this is a discussion on the state of campaign finance following the supreme court to texas and united decision. panelist said that groups that do not have to comply with disclosure laws are outspending those that do. they also talked about how changes in campaign finance could affect this year's presidential and congressional elections. from the b

and i'm struck by the fact that i think other than barry goldwater and to some extent ronald reagan, other than barry goldwater this the most thorough going critique and attack on what we can call the social state, the welfare state, call it what you will, going back to the new deal. >> yeah. >> paul ryan has an entirely different set of assumptions. he's like a third generation conservative. you had bill buckley and so on. then you had the ronald reagan generation. this is the next generation. they don't accept the assumptions of the role of government in the lives of people. and that's the real meaning of the ryan budget. that's the real meaning of paul ryan's career, and that's the real meaning of his candidacy. whether the american people, number one, are ready for that debate, number one. and, number two, whether they would dare to choose what ryan is really saying is what's at stake here and it makes it a really very interesting and important election. >> i agree completely. it's not a hard one to choose from if you look into the facts of who these people -- what they're standi

government could solve these problems, and was useful, and you had a conservative candidate in barry goldwater who argued that the private sector is the best way and less government is more. >> so what do you think the word is from the public? did the president's administration do enough since 2008 to address the root causes of the financial crisis to build a better future? >> i think that people have varying opinions about that. i think no one can say that the president's focus was laser like on jobs in the beginning or that job growth is what anyone wants to sigh. on the other hand, you can say, and i think accurately, that if it had not been for the bank bailout, we would be in much, much worse shape. i do think at the very top 1% is going back to business as usual, there's a feeling from ordinary americans, wait a minute. what am i missing here? how come they bounced back and i haven't? and people on the left, right, and center have different explanations for why that is and different villains they want to pick on. i think it's hard to say this is all obama's fault or all anyone's fault. >

he then said that if the nomination is given to barry goldwater, the republican party would be committingpolitical suicide." then he walked out in 1964 because they would not go in a more moderate direction. 48 years later, mitt romney is walking in and calling himself "severely conservative" and he is reaching out to the barry goldwater wing of the party. a very conservative party. in doing that, and he further reaches out and picks paul ryan, a conservative member of the house from wisconsin. he is finishing a long journey from watching his father and when he was running for the senate in 1994 himself and for the governorship as a moderate and today at this convention, self-described as conservative who now and the law -- nonetheless has to reach out to moderates. it is an interesting path he has had to walk to reach this moment. >> we have a clip from 1994 of george romney as he gave an interview to a local pbs station talking about the deficit and federal spending. >> in 1948, i concluded that the people of this country did not appreciate this third sector we have. he said that as peo

we will begin with barry goldwater in san francisco, 1964, than richard nixon in miami beach in 1968, ronald reagan in dallas in 1984, the torch hpv busch, accepted his party's nomination in 1988, and george w. bush accepted his nomination in 2000. those are the speeches you poll showed you, but here is barry goldwater, 1964, san francisco's cow palace. >> united and determined, we will go forward together, dedicated to the undeniable greatness of the old man. together, we will win. i accept your nomination with a deep sense of humility. i accept the responsibility that goes with that and i seek your continued help and your continued guidance. my fellow republicans, our cause is to great for any man to feel worthy of that. our task would be too great for any men, if he did not have with him the heart and the hands of this great republican party. and i promise you tonight that every fiber of my being is consecrated to our cause that nothing shall be lacking from the struggle that can be brought to it by enthusiasm, by devotion, and plain hard work. in this world, no person, no party ca

tell me how wrong i am about huckabee and barry goldwater in 1960? political figure, timing matters in politics. if he had run this time, there's a tremendous chance he would have wound up as the republican nominee, but presuming a romney victory, he won't have a chance to run for eight years. presuming an obama victory, i think you will see great fishers in the republican party, some of the unsettlement below the surface, you know, will come up. there will be a big debate in the republican party about the direction of the party. and mike huckabee is someone who will absolutely if he wanted to run for president, would be a formidable figure in the party. >> do you see what is going on in the republican party right now as people trying to set themselves up for 2016 in the event of a romney loss? right now, nobody can protect what is going to happen, but it's no shoo-in that romney is going to win. i feel like what we're seeing is people trying to set themselves up as the conservative alternative. >> when you look at the people scheduled to speak at th

countdown to the end of the world in nuclear war that would kill little girls if voters chose barry goldwatercandidate intent on confronting communism. >> vote for president johnson on november 3rd. the stakes are too high for you to stay home. >> it shows that negative ads do work. >> reporter: because they work, negative ads increase, some mocking the opposition. agnu for vice president? michael dukakis for commander in chief? >> kidnapped yawning couple, stabbing a man, repeatedly raping his girlfriend. >> reporter: barack obama said, enough. >> we're not going to go around doing negative ads. >> reporter: but if this year if you believe one political ad by a super pac, mitt romney's policies could help your wife die from cancer. >> she passed away in 22 days. >> reporter: the washington post called foul, giving the ad four pinocchios. >> wouldn't to have work, wouldn't to have train for a job. >> reporter: not true. four pinocchios and a pants on fire. to reinforce an image -- >> the obama campaign wants to cast romney as a rich guy out of touch with the ordinary working people. the romne

. >> you went from a goldwater family to this if whatever you are today. >> my mother is shaking herthat -- at the same time you are, howard. trust me. >> dan shah unusual, you work for john mccain's presidential campaign in 2000. the press loved him at the time, had the bus tours, i spent a lot of time riding around with, answered endless questions from reporters, how does the campaign look different from the inside compared to the picture with he get from the press? >> the biggest difference over that 12-year time lapse, of course, is just the no offense intend, the relentlessness of the media coverage. and even bill clinton, a master communicator in 2008, as you remember howie, really struggled with the ongoing coverage, online immediate yark the social media and so on. by the way, very quickly, my father is a liberal democrat from madison, wisconsin, who is now surrounded by paul ryan, scott walker and reince priebus and he is very, very unhappy. >> let's hook him up with my mom. >> we have two guests here who have evolved, shall we say, from their beginnings growing up. but, you

. >> reporter: even barry goldwater got a post convention speech bounce. so did president obama and both presidents bush. >> read my lips. no new taxes. [ cheering and applause ] >> i'm running with a passionate conservative philosophy. >> reporter: but romney has some tough acts to follow. >> like to see this thing all the way through. let's get this done! >> reporter: and romney faces a fast response team from the other side. president obama's surrogates like maryland's chris van holland. >> the republicans in the house and representatives are sitting on the president's jobs bill. they haven't even had a vote on it since last september. >> reporter: the tv audience for tonight's primetime address by mitt romney is likely to number in the tens of millions even with so many things distracting us. americans still really like to watch these conventions and these big speeches, but mitt romney also knows the valley of retail politics and he -- the value of retail politics and he will leave his hotel room tomorrow morning to campaign here in battle ground flori

if you look at this platform this say barry goldwater platform.s is not even a ronald reagan platform. this is very much reminiscent of what the gold water forces took over the republican party to be bipartisan when the antiwar movement and george mcgovern took over the democratic party in 1972 and redefined that party for a long time to come. so it's not unprecedented. and i would argue that -- it's interesting. teddy white famously said that conventions give overrations in lieu of nomination. that film of bushes was warmly received but it's impossible to over look the fact that this is not george h. w. bush's or george w. bush's republican party. >> ifill: we heard jeb bush speak warm about his brother so this was something at least. interviewer: what richard said he's absolutely right the barry goldwater part of tea party is here. what is not here is the antiwall street part of the party. paul ryan voted for tarp. that part of tea party movement has been defamed. >> woodruff: we're hearing from people in the mormon church, the church of jesus c

it was supposed to be barry goldwater's moments. but reagan had what's known as the speech.ctric and had practice, 300, 600 times his speech he delivered and he stole the house. it was the birth of reagan as a serious republican candidate. he became, of course, governor and a two-term president and people marked that speech at the palace as the one that watched reagan where for goldwater, he got slaughtered that year by lyndon johnson. >> a speech can come back to haunt you. we'll look at george bush's speech in 1988. when he said the famous remark. i think we have it. >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> it did. it came back to haunt him, didn't it? >> very much so. got a big cheer there. sounded good. it was red meat for the gop believers. but 1992 after he had already raised taxes, it allowed opponents to call him a bit of a fraud. he said read my lips, no new taxes yet he raised taxes. george herbert walker bush lost in 1992 to bill clinton. was challenged by pat buchanan and then a third party by ross perot. this was a bush who had won the gulf war, seen the breakup of the

as i told to privately, barry goldwater was such a good friend. at his request, i moved into his old office and i have been there for 30 years. he would blush -- you would blush it your all of the good things he has said about you -- if you heard all the good things he said about you. >> i remember a hearing we have lasted that was very viable with justice scalia. barry m. valuable. it is very valuable to have you here as well -- it was very voluble. it is very valuable to have you here as well. you are the very first supreme just as i have ever had the chance to vote for. my first vote to the supreme court. i can say this looking back on on your years of service and performance justify the confidence that the senate placed in you. we would like to believe that our judges whose independence is guaranteed by the constitution will based only on the constitution and not on their policy preferences. judicial independence was established to make the courts independent of the other branches and independent of popular the you. it is not designed to make

friend senator grassley, as i told you privately, barry goldwater was such a good friend. at his request, i moved into his old office. you would blush to hear all the good things he said about you. some of it in language i will not repeat at a hearing. senator grassley? >> senator grassley. >> thank you. thank you, mr. chairman. i remember one we had last year that was a valuable would just as brighter and justice scalia. very valuable. it will be valuable to have you here as well. i am glad to greet you for coming. you are not only the first woman to serve on the supreme court. you are the first supreme court justice i had the privilege to vote for. >> for heaven's sake. >> i can say this, looking back after all of your years of service, your performance justified the confidence we placed in you. we would like to believe that our judges whose independence is guaranteed by the constitution rule based only on the constitution and the other policy preferences. judicial independence was established to make the courts independent of the other branches and independent a popular

number four, from barry goldwater 1964. >> i am reminding you in the defense of liberty -- .ri: he sounds like ron paul. 1996. bill clinton. >> i asked all fellow citizens to join me and you to build the bridge to the 21st century. >> number two, introduced to this stage in 2008. >> i love those hockey moms. and know the difference between the hockey mom and eight pit bull? lipstick. >> number one. >> and i will say to them, read my lips. no new taxes. gerri: we know how that turned out to and the most disturbing make out session. between vice president al gore and his wife. it is scary. is the housing market set for another boom? in-house same questions answered in real republicans toughen their stance? and what he tells romney to do. ♪ gerri: the economy on fire or stock it will determine who is voted in the white house but emigration remains an important issue. lead attorney representing agents against janet napolitano and john morton over obama's recent immigration policies which. kris kobach, welcome to the show. what is wrong with the undocumented workers to stay in the

guest: in 1964, barry goldwater day one of the most memorable speeches.e created a conservative movement. it did not serve him well in the general election. but it helped to sweep reagan and other conservative presidents to power. his line was extremism in defense of liberty is not a vice. his words resonated with the conservative backers the party and gave a rallying point to what had been a demoralized party. it provided an organizational base to control the party in the decades ahead. we all know the result of that. host: have been talking about the history of political conventions with professor whalen. thank you for joining us on the "washington journal." [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> the form policy positions of president obama and republican presidential candidate mitt romney. it is about 20 minutes. >> now on your screen is josh rogin. thank you for being back on the "washington journal." we want to talk about foreign policy and a campaign 2012. how could use a f

goldwater and his wife?bush was the was one of the lead sponsors in the house of representatives for the title 10 family planning program, and that bill was signed by richard nixon. so there is a long tradition of support for what planned parenthood does, and we have always had republicans and still do have republicans on our affiliates all over the country, donors, volunteers board members -- >> bill: what do you says to republicans today who say we have to defund planned parenthood because it is against everything the republican party stands for? >> well, it's not. the republican party stands for individual responsibility personal freedom, and i heard chris christie say last night that government shouldn't get in the way of a person and their health care. well, that's exactly what the current republican platform does, and so -- you know they are making our case for us. the problem of course is that if you are going to put your own personal religious views out there, and try to impose them on everyone else