goldwater is upset by that. he wrote a book denouncing one of the -- denouncing the religious right. if you go over to the archives here at arizona state university you can look at the correspondence about this book. so people have claimed, i think, rather absurdly that barry goldwater, you know, and even ronald reagan wouldn't find a place in the republican party today. you know, we are talking about what happened 50 years ago, 40 years ago to the republican party and issues have changed. to think that ronald reagan wanted to find a place in the republican party today, i think, is absolutely ludicrous. it's just the attempt by some, not all the opponents but some to paint the republican party as extremist. as we've discussed in this class, this has been an ongoing attack from the 1950s to today that the republicans are extremists. you can believe they are extremists and you have a right to believe they are extremists. but this is kind of an ongoing political attack. one of the problems i will just add that gold

so very goldwater nominated as vice president and now he think he has a chance to win. twenty-one years old, war veteran, 15 year veteran of the house and they also played one of the more memorable situations, they lost control of the gavel and it flew out of hand and cached before had this and that is my chevy chase street in about. [applause] again, because i am an ocd won't and a former strategist, you'll find them here john kennedy second acceptance speech in the goldwater kennedy debate and his advisers want him to debate them if they have i tell the country that and what is my explanation for not leaving? because he said that i know it benefits the calendar. but the idea is that kennedy wins and just have a little bit more fun, a rewrite the lyrics of some rock songs and some sy

there is a barry goldwater approach, very conservative, purist approach, which actually is very good in congressional races and you may win some seats in very red states using that approach, and you have got the ronald reagan approach, goldwater, mean 64, absolutely slaughtered, one of the worst land slides in u.s. history, two years later, ronald reagan ran on the same platform, but with a smile on his face, and unlike goldwater in 64, who seemed to go out of his way to agitate and irritate a lot of the party establishment, ronald reagan brought everybody into the room, and by bringing everybody into the room, he again in mean 66 witwon in california and beat pt brown who was one of the most popular governors, certainly one of the most transform if the governors in the history of california, and they were off not races with a conservative revolution, reagan once said i remember reading this in david stockman's book, the triumph of politics when talking about his problems inside the white house that reagan told his advisors at one point, hey, guys, i don't wear the black hat. we -- i

and barry goldwater was the opposite.ter was able to get kennedy to back off of his corporate tax cut to cut it from only 52% to 48% rather than what he wanted, which was 46%. reagan loved this. i chatted with reagan a number of times on kennedy. kennedy gave my graduation address at yale, which is a spectacular supply-side speech. and reagan really loved that we ran the campaign on the thing called a rising tide that raises all boats. and reagan and kennedy had the exact same redistribution philosophy. the best form of welfare is a job and a rising tide raises all boats and helps the poor the most. the rising tide is the key to the reagan and kennedy nexus, my view. >> michael, we talked about this for a good long while on the radio the day senator ted kennedy was buried, it was his church service. >> yeah, the funeral. that's right. >> you have jack kennedy who may not have been perfect but was basically a conservative. all the other kennedys -- not necessarily bobby kennedy. but all the other kennedys down through the

berry goldwater and i'm almost tempted not to defend him, goldwater's department stores or integrated before federal buildings in washington. he integrated arizona's governor desegregated the arizona national guard before harry truman fully desegregated. he wanted some provisions of the 1964 civil rights act to be tougher on contractors and unions that refused to stop discriminating on the basis of race but he was a purist libertarians so he voted against it because he had restrictions on what private business is could do. thanks barry goldwater. that's fantastic. the idea idm is described in my book. the idea that was the beginning of republicans -- is simply false as i go through now. the southern states barry goldwater won in 1964 which states richard nixon and ronald reagan either lost or did worse in. we finally start only when the old dixiecrat died out. anyway 64 was an historic landslide. what do they get after that? teddy kennedy's immigration bill of 1965 which was specifically designed to change the demographics of this country. we have been taking in a million immigrants s

assuming the ran against goldwater or member else? >> that's what i -- you may have come in late. i covered that. >> i'm sorry. >> inflames i didn't hear myself, i'm pretty sure i covered that. i if goldwater is the nominee -- itch george romney got the nomination it would have been tough because he -- the whole southern base of the democratic party is gone and romney could have been competitive, but the way he did run for president, said he could have self-destructed every bit as much in '64 and '68. >> thank you. first off, it's been a pleasure being here and watching -- i've been watching you sense i was a kid -- >> thank you for that. really. they had television back then, did they? >> yes, they did. but i've also been enjoying your alternate historiness recent years. do you've -- do you have any plans in the future? >> no. i'm done. the reason is i would become the georgie jessle of alternate history. what do you think would have happened if -- the interviews for that one would be fairly tough. no. i enjoy this process, but because my standard is one plausibility, two, a very

senator goldwater seemed to be the likely candidate. kennedy was looking forward to the campaign, and he was confident that with senator goldwater, the democratic party and president would prevail. host: this is another photograph from the "new york times" magazine. it is a picture of walter cronkite and john f. kennedy in september of 1963, when cbs expanded from 15 minutes to 30 minutes. guest: mr. conchrite had a couple of interviews with the president. young family, fresh look at problems in the world, a generational shift, and the notion disseminated by the kennedy administration that every single citizen can make a difference in our country. whether you're serving in the military, a civilian, public life, private life, we would go forward as one nation, and that public service was a noble undertaking. the notion that we help each other, and by helping each other, we held our society -- that message must not be lost as we go forward in honoring the president. host: here's a scene from a 1960 campaign, leadership for the 1960's. mar

thanks, barry goldwater. thanks, that's fantastic. i mean, the idea -- this is described a little bit more in my penultimate book, "mugged," the idea that that was the beginning of republicans taking the south is simply false. as i go through in that a, the southern states barry goldwater won in 1964 were the states richard nixon and ronald reagan either lost or did worse in. we finally started to take the south only when the old dixiecrats died out. okay, anyway, '64, loses in an historic landslide. what do we get after that? teddy kennedy's immigration bill of 1965 which was specifically designed to change the demographics of this country. we've been taking in about a million immigrants a year since then, 90% of them from the third world. the majority of them go on welfare and, oh, gosh, democrats are doing much better in elections now, aren't they? we got the great society programs. the last time the democrats had the house, the senate and the presidency was in 1993, 16 blessed years ago. and what's the first thing they did in 1993

. >> very goldwater, the man who goldwater, they man who is regarded as the person to oppose president kennedy in election next year, has issued a statement in which he says it most shocking and dreadful that a thing like this could happen in a free country. the president's debt is a fountain loss -- is a profound loss to the nation. mrs. goldwater and i offer our sympathy to mrs. kennedy and the president's family. make remarksto tomorrow night in grand rapids. you are fixed of feeling prevalent on both sides of the aisle in congress, the great personal bereavement, feeling of loss and shock. night of theto the when lyndonn 1960 johnson accepted the nomination. governor john conley was then the floor manager for lyndon johnson, and was the man always the closest assistant in all his political campaigns, that is governor connally of texas who lies wooded in a hospital in dallas. at 2:00 in the morning, when johnsons much talk that would be offered the vice presidential nomination, john connolly told me he was positive he would never accept it. i had talked to sam rayburn who said that

won't and a former strategist, you'll find them here john kennedy second acceptance speech in the goldwater kennedy debate and his advisers want him to debate them if they have i tell the country that and what is my explanation for not leaving? because he said that i know it benefits the calendar. but the idea is that kennedy wins and just have a little bit more fun, a rewrite the lyrics of some rock songs and some say it is my book. i'm not going to give away all of this stuff, but the most consequential question is what happens with vietnam and civil rights. and what about the 22nd approach is? they can be a huge debate. the conservatives will tell you that he ran as a hawk and he often said that we are not going to leave vietnam than we would have the same advisers as lyndon johnson. .. the army couldn't get the troops there kennedy was on the phony, are the troops? they're on the way. so you have that. and in an effort to kind of bring reality some fantasy together, i construct a meeting in which most of the participants speak the words they actually spoke at one time. i just put it som

goldwater in 64, who seemed to go out of his way to agitate and irritate a lot of the party establishment, ronald reagan brought everybody into the room, and by bringing everybody into the room, he again in mean 66 witwon in california and beat pt brown who was one of the most popular governors, certainly one of the most transform if the governors in the history of california, and they were off not races with a conservative revolution, reagan once said i remember reading this in david stockman's book, the triumph of politics when talking about his problems inside the white house that reagan told his advisors at one point, hey, guys, i don't wear the black hat. we -- i am the white hat guy. his box office never went below 50 percent. we have people again who were so obsessed with being ideologically pure and calling out anybody else that they don't think is ideologically pure that we have forgotten how to win races. it is about winning at the end of the day. if you want to make the country more conservative, if you want to shape the world more in your image, you have got to win elections.

he joked with his aides in the said if we wanted run against barry goldwater we will get to sleep must earlier on election night than we did in 1960 knowing that the race against nixon was so terribly close. so he had a lot of self-confidence at that point and was convinced that -- and of course he did give that great american university speech still worth listening to today and his civil rights speech was very slow to come forward on civil rights but when he finally acted that speech was brilliantly done and from the heart, and was really very impressive. so you know terribly sad that he they couldn't have had that second term to see what else might have happened. in a sense what he has left us and what the public has embraced is the point he started with, 85% approval. people loved him. he was the presidential hero of people's memories. >> you said something powerful. he grew. he did grow. he started off cerebral blood gain confidence in his leadership and bobby kennedy grew too from the brash mccarthy to have great compassion for people. what was it with the ambitious father who had

he would have run against barry goldwater and would have won it did victory the way johnson did. he would have carried big democratic majorities into the house and senate with him and i think he would have gotten the big tax cut, the federal aid to education, the medicare and the civil rights bills passed. that would have put him in the lead with the most progressive 20th century presidential reformers alongside t.r. and wilson and even compared somewhat to fdr but i don't think he would have pushed beyond that. i think he would have pushed toward dÉtente. i think we would have seen dÉtente earlier with kennedy then we did with richard nixon because that cuban missile crisis was so sobering and it was so khrushchev and they make the nuclear test ban treaty which eliminated the pollution and radiation in the atmosphere and i think kennedy saw this as an opening towards a push with the soviets and he made the ruling and famous american speech in june of 63 in which he said we should rethink, rethink our relationship with the soviet union. mainly the russian people and he praised th

a fan of goldwater.e was trounced by lyndon johnson but there is no question about that. issuesws on some social and the pro-life issue i do not agree with. >> go to the constitution question. could make one definitive statement that our guest could respond to. in hiss interested comments concerning wyoming. the founders set up a bicameral the housee so that which is the people's ranch but the is known as senate has always intended to put a brake on what the house does and that is a more deliberative body. if he is notnd already familiar with it, -- do you want to respond? >> we will start with the centralization point. would you end up with a more andralized government, certainly it is possible. i think we might decide that we want to empower the states more than they are today. and give the states more. storyis a sidebar to the in case you want to get more constitutional about redrawing state lines. this is another thing that sounds kind of radical but if you think about it a lot of the states a specia

they did not specifically mentions senator goldwater by name. in a world of complex and continuing problems in a world full of frustrations, america's leadership must be guided by the likes of learning and reason or else those who might confuse rhetoric with reality will gain ascendancy with her seemingly swift and simple solutions to every world problems. reports 15 minutes ago a reporter in dallas. after givingerged the president his last rites. just the fourth the announcement of the president that was made vice president lyndon johnson emerged grim faced and was driven off with the police asked thescort to assume constitutional response ability is -- responsibilities of the presidency. a casket has just been brought into the emergency ward of this hospital for president kennedy. as theack took place president was just completing what amounted to a triumphal drive through downtown dallas encountering the largest and in some ways the most friendly today -- two- day texas tour. dallas police has put into effect the most stringent security proce

apart from anything else but goldwater was like the.he got a little scary at times because he let the generals decide when to use the secret weapon. he just should have said the. i always liked him. he just shouldn't have said that. by the way, hillary was for goldwater, to the i wasn't the only one to move over to that terrain. gene mccarthy was a smart politician who didn't like -- didn't act like a politician. he looked like he read hard bound books, you know? [laughter] why did you ask me? [laughter] the tea party is -- look, let me explain to you something really boring, the numbers. there are 232 congressional districts. a strong majority voted against obama. so when those members vote against anything obama, the guy said i couldn't stand being 10 feet from him over christy walked the beach was and they don't want to be anyone in the that are overwhelming conservative but you cannot lose except a younger person who is more conservative than you. if you want to be safe or be in a black disregard of the district you can only lose be

he did not specifically mention senator goldwater by name. the president said, "in a world of complex and into doing problems, in a world of irritations, america's leadership must be guided by the life of -- the light of learning and reason, or else those who confuse reality and the plausible with the possible will give over simple solutions to the world's problems." the president's two younger brothers are on their way to andrews air force base. they will fly to dallas. additional details from the hospital. vice president lyndon johnson has not been injured in this attack on president kennedy and texas governor connally. the vice president is somewhere in the same hospital where the president is being treated, parkland memorial in dallas. it was reported he was badly shot by the shooting. the doctors are trying to keep him as quiet as possible and he is under heavy secret service protection. it was also noted that throughout the trip in texas where the president and vice president have been the same motorcade, they have been kept in separate

if jack kennedy had run against goldwater in 1964, he would have won in a landslide -- >> but he almost didn't beat nixon. how close was that election? >> that was the closest ever had. 49.8% of the volt to 49.7% of the vote. >> because people believe kennedy as this huge figure, they think he must have won by a landslide but it was close. >> everybody thought he was going to win by a landslide. all of the experts, all of the journalists were convinced. but in the end -- and i think it's because lots of americans weren't yet ready to vote for an irish catholic. >> is the family cursed? >> no. the family cursed itself because these men and women were risk takers. they grew up with glamour, with education, with privilege. they thought at moments that they were immoral; that they could do anything. they took risks that lead to tragedies much too often. >> thank you very much. and you are going to continue to be with us. we wanted to tell you time line right now. on november 21st, the president and his wife flew to texas. the two-day five-city tour was a campaign trip of sorts. it was also

him a poll saying that he would lose texas by 100,000 votes if the election were held today, to goldwater. after he was in his room, he stopped off at a meeting of the league of united latin american citizens, lula, that was an unexpected stop. jacqueline kennedy said a few words in spanish to the crowd. following the lulac banquet, kennedy made one more stop in houston before heading the to ft. worth for the night. >> all this week, you can share your memories of the day president kennedy was killed by visiting newshour.pbs.org. >>> that's it for this edition of "pbs newshour weekend." i'm hari sreenivasan, thanks for watching. >> announcer: "pbs newshour weekend" is made possible by judy and josh westin, joy b. hale, the wallet family, in memory of miriam and ira d. wallet, bernard and irene schwartz. corporate funding is provided by mutual of america, designing customized, individual, and group retirement products. that's why we're your retirement company. additional support is provided by -- and by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from v

subtraction so he he saw the disaster of one thousand nine hundred sixty four and the now many barry goldwater in which moderates were encouraged to leave and were offended and he understood that you had to reach beyond that only four years later he built a winning coalition i don't think he could be nominated in today's republican party i don't think ronald reagan could be nominated in today's republican party i think social dog has become too important a piece of the republican cosmos and i think that we are going to limit ourselves as a party if we keep becoming more and more and more exclusionary let's move on to your role in the controversial two thousand presidential election you mentioned earlier kind of in a boastful way that you were a major force in stopping the recount of ballots in miami dade county why are you so desperately trying to subvert the democratic process and is this really something very proud of. the first of all i reject your characterization of surviving the democratic caucus we are going for the third recount of the same ballots they had already been counted twice w

subtraction so he he saw the disaster of one thousand nine hundred sixty four in the nomination of barry goldwater in which moderates were encouraged to leave and were offended and he understood that you had to reach beyond that only four years later he built a winning coalition i don't think he could be nominated in today's republican party i don't think ronald reagan could be nominated in today's republican party i think social dogma has become too important a piece of the republican cosmos and i think that we are going to limit ourselves as a party if we keep becoming more and more and more exclusionary let's move on to your role in the controversial two thousand presidential election you mentioned earlier kind of in a boastful way that you were a major force in stopping the recount of ballots in miami dade county why are you so desperately trying to subvert the democratic process and is this really something very proud of. first of all i reject your characterization of surviving the democratic caucus we are going for the third recount of the same ballots they had already been counted twice wit

subtraction so he he saw the disaster of one thousand nine hundred sixty four in the now many barry goldwater in which moderates were encouraged to leave and were offended and he understood that you had to reach beyond that only four years later he built a winning coalition i don't think he could be nominated in today's republican party i don't think ronald reagan could be nominated in today's republican party i think social dog has become too important a piece of the republican cosmos and i think that we are going to limit ourselves as a party if we keep becoming more and more and more exclusionary let's move on to your role in the controversial two thousand presidential election you mentioned earlier kind of in a boastful way that you were a major force in stopping the recount of ballots in miami dade county why are you so desperately trying to subvert the democratic process and is this really something very proud of. the first of all i reject your characterization of surviving the democratic caucus we are going for the third recount of the same ballots they had already been counted twice w

one of the things that's interesting here i think historically is the goldwater movement was driven bymall town businessmen who resented the new deal, who resented the interference in the marketplace, the labor laws. and now, interestingly, a couple generations later, really the chambers of commerce and the rotary clubs of the country are the republican establishment. >> right. >> the insurgents who were fighting against eisenhower and were the goldwater guys and became the reagan stalwarts are as uncomfortable with the right as they were with the left. i think it's arguable that the center of gravity for republicans is somewhere between cultural conservatives and more radical guys and the rotary club, kiwanis club, chamber of commerce folks who are focused on the bottom line. >> tell us more about ricketts. he's a really, really conservative guy. >> he's a really conservative guy. >> he's come in to this race to say, enough, we want the pro business conservative pro life guy. >> he's not a guy that's traditionally had culture war politics. he's focused the -- his super pac was focused

barry goldwater was a very right-wing candidate. the anti-communist movement was still very powerful. it was a very powerful force in american politics. i mean bob mack in a mayor yea ya in the first couple years in the pentagon was clobbered by the anti-communists. goldwater ran on a campaign that we're going to be soft on communism. and johnson was constantly afraid that if one of the political push that if we lost vietnam, we would be soft on communist ands we would lose everything in terms of the great society. >> joe call fall yoe was the chief domestic policy adviser with johnson. he wrote a book about the experience called the triumph and tragedy of lyndon johnson. it is coming out again. >> it's coming out again. i think with texas a&m and president and the presidential series are going to put it out again. next year it will be available. >> shreveport, louisiana. >> i understand president johnson was raised in an average middle class family. and that he was a civil servant his whole life. i was just curious how he accumulat

division well we do have a division but that's not new for the republican party i remember barry goldwater nelson rockefeller or gerry ford and ronald reagan we've often had divisions in the past and frankly my experience of the tea party is that the vast number of people who identify themselves as such are basically conservative republicans who are just fed up with what's happening in the country they're pretty much united in their opposition and us delegate to the present administration or they're not the majority of the party no i don't think there are the majority but i think we want to be in the party i don't want to see the tea party go spinning loses some third party movement i think we need to be big enough as a as a party and broad enough and i think you can so that folks who are conservative who believe in fiscal discipline who are opposed to the expansion of government power similar to what obama's doing who believe deeply in the constitution are welcome into the republican party and we're willing to make them have them part of the debate you know want to bowl most third party a

he joked with his aides in the said if we wanted run against barry goldwater we will get to sleep must earlier on election night than we did in 1960 knowing that the race against nixon was so terribly close. so he had a lot of self-confidence at that point and was convinced that -- and of course he did give that great american university speech still worth listening to today and his civil rights speech was very slow to come forward on civil rights but when he finally acted that speech was brilliantly done and from the heart, and was really very impressive. so you know terribly sad that he they couldn't have had that second term to see what else might have happened. in a sense what he has left us and what the public has embraced is the point he started with, 85% approval. people loved him. he was the presidential hero of people's memories. >> you said something powerful. he grew. he did grow. he started off cerebral blood gain confidence in his leadership and bobby kennedy grew too from the brash mccarthy to have great compassion for people. what was it with the ambitious father who had

division well we do have a division but that's not new for the republican party i remember barry goldwater nelson rockefeller or gerry ford and ronald reagan we've often had divisions of the past and frankly my experience of the tea party is that the vast number of people who identify themselves as such are basically conservative republicans who are just fed up with what's happening in the country they're pretty much united in their opposition and us delegate to the present administration are they not the majority of the party no i don't think there are the majority but i think we want to be in the party i don't want to see the tea party go spinny loses some third party movement i think we need to be big enough as a as a party and broad enough and i thank you and so that folks who are conservative who believe in fiscal discipline who are opposed to the expansion of government power similar to what obama's doing who believe deeply in the constitution are welcome into the republican party and we're willing to make them have them part of the debate you know want to bowl most third party and t

goldwater and i offer our sympathy to mrs. kennedy and the president's family. he was going to make remarks tomorrow night in grand rapids. you are feeling prevalent on both sides of the aisle in congress, the great personal bereavement, feeling of loss and shock. i think back to the night of the convention in 1960 when lyndon johnson accepted the nomination. governor john connally was then the floor manager for lyndon johnson, and was the man always the closest assistant in all his political campaigns, that is governor connally of texas who lies wounded in a hospital in dallas. at 2:00 in the morning, when there was much talk that johnson would be offered the vice presidential nomination, john connally told me he was positive he would never accept it. i had talked to sam rayburn who said that lyndon johnson would never accept the vice presidency, would never give up the senate majority leader. i bet john connally then that johnson would accept the vice- presidential nomination. at 2:00, john connolly made that point that it was positive that he would not accept

the reagan could have echoed goldwater. anti-big government, anti- communism. not that ideas, right? but he didn't just do that. again, he fit our conservative principles to his day and he added something to it. economic determinism, american determinism come economic optimism. we can do anything we want. there is a shining city out there. we have a runny view with destiny. -- we have a rendezvous with destiny. what reagan did for his party it is now our time and our job to do for our party. and we have a wonderful argument. and that is that big and dumb and old and slow and top-down government doesn't work if they have served us up the most wonderful example of how dysfunctional -- why? because the information is down at the bottom and they are up at the top get all of the old hollow arguments. what republican governors are doing. governing bottom up. we have the sincerity. we can score points. we will win a survey argument. moses did say, hey, i have a great idea. let's go to the desert. it is really hot there and dry. posterity will suffer a little bit, but

senator goldwater seemed to be the likely candidate.dy was looking forward to the campaign, and he was senatort that with goldwater, the democratic party and president would prevail. host: this is another photograph from the "new york times" magazine. it is a picture of walter cronkite and john f. kennedy in september of 1963, when cbs expanded from 15 minutes to 30 minutes. -- mr.mr. concha right conchrite had a couple of interviews with the president. atng family, fresh look problems in the world, a generational shift, and the notion disseminated by the kennedy administration that every single citizen can make a difference in our country. whether you're serving in the military, a civilian, public life, private life, we would go forward as one nation, and that public service was a noble undertaking. the notion that we help each other, and by helping each other, we held our society -- that message must not be lost as we go forward in honoring the president. a scene from a 1960 campaign, leadership for the 1960's. marianne is joining us

. >> the goldwater family, eliana, jaanize and harry. thank you. if you can stay close i have a question through adam, president of the donaldson adoption institute. as you listening to the gold-water family, it's clear they were meant to be a family, but it was a terrible road for eliana to get there. harry makes a great point about being prepared for what you are getting into. that's for any parent, whether you are adopting or not. what is some of the take away you got from the situation that brought this family together? >> i was thinking about that right at the beginning of your segment. there are families, and it breaks our hearts who mistreat children who are biological families. we don't conclude - we have to monitor biological families. we should take the opportunities to protect children. my thought is that. we don't have systems in place to help the family - sufficient systems in place to provide support and services for families for children who need them. when we look at a study like the one we did and determine there's a population of

kennedy was a successful democrat and probably in most people's eyes certainly to the left of barry goldwater with. [laughter] that just for the sake of completeness could you sort of recount his history with civil rights, which we all know partly but i don't feel totally, that i totally know his overall sort of feelings about things and what he was sort of drawn into and what he really accepted with gusto in terms of his civil rights positions. >> yeah, sure. well, civil rights was a little bit like medicare many that at the beginning -- in that at the beginning kennedy certainly didn't make it a priority, and he came late to it. it's a mixed record. i don't want to -- there have been books out, there was a book with the title "bystander," you know, that really was very harsh on kennedy about civil rights. and i think in a way it's unfair to impose present-day standards on him, but he did get elected with the support of a lot of these southern governors. so just to name a few real, admirable, i hi, accomplishments of -- i think, accomplishments of kennedy on civil rights, he did appoint thur

quote a constitutional lawyer at the goldwater institute. a lot of people have connections when you start talking about changing the constitution, thewledges nick dranias. idea that the founders thought the constitution would be a perfect and unchanging document is simply not true. you go on to write that surprisingly, considering their reverence for the founders, conservatives have led the way in reimagining the constitution so they can add an amendment to create a right to life after roe versus wade or to ring in the federal government with a balanced budget. wade therer roe v are a lot of conservative calls to overturn the supreme court and in order to overturn the supreme court you need a constitutional amendment. that is up there, balanced the balancedent, budget amendment is hardly a socialist organization. this is a bipartisan effort and he has joined with a harvard professor on the liberal side. they also have a sitting judge on the fifth circuit court of appeals and they have a group that is advocating for an article five convention

head and shoulders above the others in appealing to the establishment wing of the party which since goldwater has been the wing of the party this pick the nominee h.b.o. going to do a movie a double down they are looking hard at it they bought the option and they were very happy with how the last movie came out was good for them obviously was great for us we love what they did with it and we're really hopeful that we'll be able to get the band back together and do another one you guys deserve all the floor that you're dating a very nice thank you both thanks to modern john for joining me today if you haven't already read it i highly rex i'd double recommend the double down from our viewers out there i want to hear what you think join the conversation on my facebook page share your thoughts on twitter by tweeting king's things and using the political hash tag politics that's all for this week's politicking with larry king thanks for joining. us. it was recently revealed the damie diamond rented out walking in palace in order to entertain his close friend tony blair the dinner took place only d

you take a look at the john burt society and goldwater, became very conservative people stayed away from it. reagan came along and made it very populus movement. i think liberals could take a big hit on this. charles is wrong. there's no way the death of anything happens with american policy. >> what do you think? >> i agree with both of you guys everything is cyclical. but i don't think there's any one that has been as aggressive in their ideology as president obama and the obama administration. he's the guy who says we are going to fundamentally transform america and has done everything since then think about the green energy think about obamacare. everything he has done has been take from the wealthy or give from the poor. there has never been this progressive aggressive progressiveness. what they are probably going to do is speed up the cycle. i think your skin is sort and they will get sick of it. i wonder if you thought there was a policy that would bring the gop back together. is there one thing you think that could unite us? >> i think obamacare is a policy. republicans never mis

head and shoulders above the others in appealing to the establishment wing of the party which since goldwater has been the wing of the party has picked the nominee h.b.o. going to do a movie a double down they are looking hard at it they bought the option and they were very happy with how the last movie came out was good for them obviously was great for us we loved what they did with it and we're really hopeful that we'll be able to get the band back together and do another one you guys deserve all the plaudits you're getting a very nice very thank you both thanks to modern john for joining me today if you haven't already read it i highly rectified double recommended double down for my viewers out there i want to hear what you think join the conversation on my facebook page share your thoughts on twitter by tweeting king's things and using the political hash tag politics that's all for this week's politicking with larry king thanks for joining. us top rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want.