the goldwater rule was named after arizona senator and 1964 presidential candidate barry goldwater.ine sent out a survey to 100 psychiatrists, who labeled goldwater psych atically unfit for office. after losing the election badly, barry goldwater successfully sued the publisher and then the rule was instituted, prohibiting psychiatrists from commenting on public figure these had not personally evaluated. a new email members are free to comment about political figures as individuals. the group which represents a broad range of mental health experts later clarified, saying that doctors can comment, but still not diagnose. to keep things clear the american psychiatric association sent us a email sent us a group saying the group stands firmly behind the goldwater rule, our position has not changed. a upcoming book "the dangerous case of donald trump" 27 psychiatrists and mental health experts assess a president. joining me now is one of those sigh psychiatrists and dr. gorg, what purpose is served by the goldwater rule? >> well, thanks for having me here. the purpose of the goldwater ru

rule the goldwater rule is something that came along it was an addendum to our twenty fifth amendment article four of that twenty fifth amendment and it happened after barry goldwater was trashed by a pictorial news magazine that doesn't even exist anymore and they had a bunch of psychologists and psychiatrists come in and say that he was crazy that was mentally unfit to be president as you know very goldwater was never that actually elected president but where he was victorious was in a lawsuit against that magazine that ultimately resulted in the quote unquote goldwater rule that we know today that says that you cannot diagnose a sitting public president president without any sort of clinical nation. you know robert on the legal merits of what's going on in congress i mean there was an inevitability that they were going to try to do this as jeanne is just pointed out the russian collusion story is lost a lot of air here but you know if you look at the entirety of the. the twenty fifth amendment i mean there is criminal wrongdoing we don't have any mr meanings or high crimes can at l

and yet, like goldwater, who was in the a racist, he, buckley, and goldwater, opposed the '64 civil rights act, which i think played a very significant role in giving conservatives, including conservatives who themselves had been activists in the civil rights movement, people like richards john new house and marian glen don and leon capps, gave the conservative movement the reputation for being if not racist, at least against the differ man dismantling of -- so what about buckley and goldwater refusing to support thesive civil rights act. >> "national review" begins in the mid-1950s and it's not around in 1954 but also opposed the -- and this is not "national review's" finest hour them finest hour was in the last few years, but buckley was operating under many, many forced. let me explain this. both his parents are southerners, texas and south carolina. their lineage was the genteel southerner who said, we can take care of our problems, thank you very minute. -- thank you very much. we'll take care of our community, thank you very much. these were people referred to i- very, very wealthy p

nixon made sure the campaign of goldwater in 46 and cups delegates like he says the last time, voters take a walk in the sky and they have a lot and walked to the sky, these are the alternatives, i'm going to endear myself to the goldwater way , whatever we can say about goldwater's popularity, he got the nomination and i'm going to get those delegates had as many as i can. and becomes quite in 1968 between rockefeller who i mentioned before, certainly last year before and nixon, he has funny history with them but he can stand up to goldwater when the others didn't and a young fellow named reagan. now, this was the pre-obama era. people thought it was impossible for a man to go into politics and be in government for one year and get the nomination. and buckley said if we nominate reagan and they nominate humphrey and this becomes a fight over serious, we lose with a conservative twice in a row. they're going to say it was not a candidate, it was the movement but let's save reagan for another day and he writes a series of tones that are signals to various delegates, various conservativ

"for local candidates but mostly goldwater. ... my parents were members of it, went to the goldwater convention. walter brennan kissed my mother. anybody remember walter brennan? excellent. >> it is odd to think of walter brennan kissing your mom. kind >> anybody is developing the speech and finally a group of wealthy southern california business men go to reagan and his brother reagan and they say to reagan do you want to put the picture up? they put up the money it was an enormous hit for the goldwater campaign. of course he loses in a historic landscape but david broeter wrote for the washington post, the once ray of sunlight was reagan's speech. and goldwater's defeat is devastating to the republican party. the republicans are in the minority in the house and the senate and they have very few statehouses and very few governorships. in many ways the republican party is functionally dead. it doesn't have a cohere policy. the same group says we want you to run for the senate and he said no, i don't want to run for congress and the

when he first met goldwater who were friends of his second wife's parents, loyal davis, in phoenix in the early 1950s. he moved over to the right as he became aware that the democratic party was leafing its ideals -- leaving its ideals as he understood them behind. and he had understood those ideals as using government to help the average person. but you instead began to see the democratic party was interested in power for its own sake, a centralizing vision that made government and socialization of america its animating goal rather than providing assistance to people who needed assistance to overcome obstacles or petty tyranny in their private or in their public lives. and reagan was a very smart man. and he was minute who read incessantly -- somebody who read incessantly. he read when he was a child, he read on movie sets, he read when he was working for general electric on long train trips since he was aa grade of flying, and -- aggrade of flying, and he can be afraid of flying, and he developed his own philosophy. he was for government that would help people have a hand up. he was

and the man dedicated of the overthrow of the new deal as goldwater and are today's libertarians.in fact, nothing can be further from the case. from the earlier days of conservative ronald reagan, exhibited fidelity to the core innovations of the new deal in the sense that government at local and state level, if necessary, but in federal level possible that a federal level if necessary should ensure that americans have hand up in american life and that everyone has a chance to live a life of their own choosing even if it requires government assistance. i will move to the second part, explaining why republicans have lost their way and how it is that in a very odd sense donald trump has recaptured some, not anywhere all, but some of the original reagan insight and consequently it's no surprise that ronald reagan and donald trump are the only two people who were republican nominees in the last 40 years to win dramatically among whites without a college degree and in the midwest and winning the states that determine who becomes president and the states and the constituencies that sinc

i was very close to being a solid goldwater conservative. ray price and safire were regarded as liberal republicans. bill safire was hired at the end of nixon's first turn partly due to the agnew speech because liberal newspapers were biased and overwhelming. -- decidedk times they needed a conservative. nixon wrote a note, 7:00 human events. we all had a great laugh. bill went on to an a pulitzer prize. on economics, bill was the one who worked on the speech were worried and price controls brian: this is that nixon plus you want in 1983. >> he was -- a very strong woman. she never did leave him turned her back on him and you and the controversial thing he was in fault. horses she do a personal friend of pat nixon [laughter] mrs. nixon would tell us that and i was a chain smoker then. nixon, she was strong lady. she had a good sense of humor. .he was a realist watergate testimony came off so well. the president said come over to .he mansion about 6:00 or so i was having a party in my office. she comes running off and she waltzes me around th

let's go back to the goldwater rule. 1964, partisans tried to bring down barry goldwater by calling himthe american psychiatric association said in 1973 that after a lawsuit was brought by goldwater, physicians, especially psychiatrists, cannot speculate on something they see over a camera, a patient they haven't examined, someone that they have no clue about, it's unethical. s it's immoral. it is stigmatizing. as a matter fact, the reason i bring it up is that theit committee is supposed to be composed of psychiatrists, physicians. what are they going to do, exactly? are they going to haul him in for an examination? you are watching over the television. he's reacting to being blasted. "washington post," "new york times," cnn always saying negative things so if he's a little defensive, what do you expect? no sign of mental instability and we can't speculate about such things. it's unethical. >> kimberly: isn't it the natural reaction that if someone is making false accusations and attacking you constantly that you might want to defend yourself and call them out to call them fake news es

and he ran for a barry goldwater seat and won it. do you think that barry goldwater would have broken with his party for the seat of chuck schumer to defeat the cause for which they have run, michael? for heaven's sake, i don't blame john mccain's heroism. i congratulate him for the guts coming back. he did something and he stuck it to his party and i don't know why he did it. other than the fact i think he's liberated. he's a free man, and he's going to tell us who he is i think we saw who he was on the floor of the house. that's his legacy, that's what he wants and that's what he will have. >> patrick, you worked in three white houses, as i mentioned during the conversation of the introduction. >> that's right. >> do you think that steve bannon is long for this political white house. how in the face of what scaramucci doldz ryan lizza could steve bannon continue to maintain face? >> my question is how the mooch going to survive, when he says i have the ability to kill everybody virtually in the west wing. when the general who has b

i was basically very close to being a solid goldwater conservative. ray price and sapphire were regarded as moderate liberal -- liberal republicans. i remember when bill sapphire was hired at the end of nixon's first term partly due to the agnu speech. all these liberal newspapers were biased and overwhelming. so they hired bill sapphire and saltburger. they said they needed a condition serve active -- conservative on the page. it was on the summary that bill had been fired. he wrote a note. sapphire a conservative? him.ody tell [laughter] we all had a great laugh. but bill went on to win a pulitzer prize. bill was the one that worked on the speech, the famous speech where wage and price controls -- going off the gold standard. it was a great opportunity and a great moment. brian: here's a moment that you also write about. this is at nixon's funeral in 1993. it's only about 20 seconds. >> he felt a tremendous sense of loss because he depended on pat. she was a very strong woman. she never did leave him or turn her back on him in any of the controversi

it worked, the idea of putting the goldwater people together with nixon.he nixon is the center of the party and goodbye to rockefeller and them, and then once you get this block, go after the northern catholics and the democratic party, folks that were raised just like me and nixon raised his catholic vote from 22 percent against jack kennedy to 55 percent and he got this what we call the southern protestants they now call the evangelicals where they denounced as a southern strategy. all of these natural alliance of ours, on politics, issues -- the southern conservatives and put these four blocks together and as i write, i mean, it is going to split the country a bit, but we are going to wind up with a larger half, which we did. i mean, can you imagine? and anybody thinking in 1962 after nixon's last press conference, ten years later, he would win a 49-state landslide? and then it all -- and all came apart. but as i said, we rolled the rock all the way up the mountain and it rolled right back down on top of us. brian: when did you first personally think th

>> barry goldwater did that despite the fact that nixon's support among his die hard voter was not gonethe same question second round. if trump was to find a way to pardon himself, the there was a lawsuit and he won the lawsuit in one of the federal courthousings and he's continuing to serve. but the republicans continue to serve a president who essentially admitted to crimes and pardoned himself? if he pardoned himself, that is admission of gift. you would see the house move to. republicans were elected by republican voters largely. they don't get additional votes by coming out against donald trump. i was a moderate republican member of congress and i remember an adviser saying to me, you might be in favor of marriage equality, but you're not going to get any extra votes for that, you're just going to lose votes. the republicans are faced with a quandary right now. if they come against donald trump, they're not going to get additional votes for that at home. the democrats aren't going to move to paul ryan and yet he's going to lose the base of republicans that elected him. hopefully at

goldwater said no, he didn't want to ruin the man.te briefing book. he turned it over immediately to the authorities. in 2008, john mccain forbid his staff from using an ad that referred to barack obama's former pastor jeremiah wright, or to raise that issue in any other way. he believed it was a sneaky way to use obama's race against him. in 1968, lindon johnson's team had wiretaps that proved candidate nixon was working to block the vietnam peace talks, but they believed it immoral to use the covert information to expose nixon. said secretary of state dean rusk the moment we cross over that divide we're in a different kind of society. they were worried about something more than vising. victory. politics is not the nicest business, but there are still times when people do the right thing. we'll be back in a moment. >> dickerson: we'll be right back with more on "face the nation," includes a new book about "apollo 8" and more from our panel. stay with us. >> dickerson: welcome back to "face the nation." joining us now is jay sekulow,

flake links himself with pairry goldwater, candidate from arizona. here is david t, from our independent line. good morning. to w me to change the topic ever-increasing area of concern for americans and internationally and that is foreign policy. the current administration increasingly is resorting to times giving at indecisive, ambivalent or mixed comes to our it international competitiveness respect to , with leadership. for instance, when it comes to rights, they continue to use it as a tool against regime nations that they did not giving carte blanche to regimes such as others, who among ave blatantly violateded for deckat -- in the long run and may not be killed and to follow.or decades cliff is next, raleigh, north carolina, republican line. thank you. i just want to comment just information weis are hearing about loyalty and president stands. i spent most of my adult life military and the ore values we've learned, try to operate with loyalty and duty nd honor and service, integrity, it seems that we have thinks that is a one-way street. how ar

it is not the convention idea, but the goldwater is to toots started in idea called right to try. some of you may be familiar with it. is a state provision that says that individuals with fatal diseases have the right to choose, the right to access medicine that is experimental and not approved by the fda. that has been gone through clinical trials. the states may not have the power to do this. his ideas spread like wildfire. over the 30 states have approved it, including governor jerry brown signing california's law into this affect. the fda washat going to file a lawsuit to challenge this as a violation of federal sovereignty over international commerce. we were sure that was going to happen. we were preparing for the litigation. instead, they act down. a change their process, which took months to apply for an individual use of an experimental drug. almost no one had the resources to do this, or the time in many instances. they cut that down to a number of hours. that is what i see potentially with the convention idea. it is a title wave. it is a synonymy and congress responds i

goldwater tries to make something out of it. and there's a famous ad about a mushroom cloud used to stereo type goldwater as a hawk. and there is a little incident which people made a lot of, my sense looking back at wasn't all that important which is a gulf of tonkin resolution in 1964 to get a blank check for future american escalation in vietnam. and the other two things by the way, we should not forget is in '64 and '65, i would submit lyndon johnson had his eye on one ball which was bringing to an end jim crow segregation in the united states of america. we need to remember it was lyndon johnson in '64 who on his own, i think within a week after assassination of president kennedy saying we are going to move the civil rights act. and he gets it done. and in '65, the protest at selma. i was at the end of the march from selma. again, lyndon johnson with the help of the midwestern republicans. couldn't have done it without dirkson. they pass the voting right to end segregation. and then he's got this thing going in vietnam. he

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amazing were winding up with a larger half, which was astonishing when you consider and 64 when goldwater had less than one third of the house and the senate, less than one third of the governors. republican party was flat on its back. richard nixon had rebuilt in 66 and now he was proceeding to make it the center core of a vast new majority, which would do what? when a four or presidential elections in coming years and all four of those would be 40 state majorities with one, 49 state majority. that was the strategy that next and had and then you have to get into where ken and i i must say we had some opposition work. after 1970, was over it was january 20, 1971 and nixon sent me-- a scented memo to me and wanted to know why we weren't hammering muskie harter. that's one thing we must agreed on. the most dangerous adversary nixon could face in 1972, was ed muskie. can tremendous present his vp candidate in 1968, 1970 when we ran a pretty raw campaign he had given a nationwide's speech which condemned nixon and agnew and mccarthyism and all of the rest of the press liked him and his positi

their experience and they're buying theo and gold why why isn't peter schiff they are taking those goldwater's hundreds of millions of dollars. coinbase so putting on hundred thousand in all accounts of three months how many new accounts of the opening over their shift gold per month nowhere near that number these guys are blinded by their own legacy thinking they need to either change the way they think or get out of the business peter we're actually going to have hosts perhaps a debate between peter schaeffer and rockwell here in vegas if we can find them and put them together but i want to also turn back to the father valuation on wall street the damage there and because he also addresses some of these concerns these people that the dissing of bitcoin and he defended digital currency as against skeptics who criticized queen mining as a missed allocation of resources such as computing power and electricity and his quote on this is he says if you think about it the printing presses that run paper currencies it's kind of a useless transaction you're just printing paper in a sense all currency

buckley barry goldwater they honored education and it's become captured by a fossil fuel industry and a right wing whack job specifically a fossil fuel industry that says don't believe that science on climate change and right wing whack jobs who specifically say don't believe that science on evolution science is bad take science of the textbooks let's build museums to hating science it just i mean. and it's just happened in the last two years is the amazing thing you look at the graph of republican approval of college and you have to six fifty six fifty six percent boom thirty very there is a very very simple explanation for that and it's because college campuses have become bastions of intolerance like actual the whole idea of safe spaces of thought police of people not being able to engage in the intellectual dialogue that makes college important in people some that happen anywhere i see what i see i see i usually socks story say. why shut concerned national is a right winger wants to bring another right white nationalist right winger onto a college campus pays for the room and then

have to say this isn't about partisan politics this is about that speech was un-american if barry goldwaterhad given a blood and soil speech in one thousand nine hundred sixty four at the republican convention william f. buckley would have disowned him i mean. i'm not going to get any disagreement from either you guys i'm innocent ok all right eighteen states and the district of columbia are suing education secretary betsy devolves for delaying the implementation of rules meant to protect the victims of for profit college scams like the failed trump university those protections which were put in place by the obama administration make it easier for people who were defrauded by their college to get loan forgiveness they were supposed to go into effect on july first but why why do we even have for profit colleges these are engines of fraud we don't why don't we just make college free like they've done all across europe and most of the rest of the world and and by the way this rules pacifically i read the rule today this rule specifically says that you have to have to have i forget the phrase l

psychotherapists association amended the rules that went back to nine hundred sixty four to say that the goldwater rule no longer stands in other words it is now legal and not a violation of professional ethics for a psychiatrist psychologist and psychotherapists to say that donald trump is mentally ill. so you want talk about mental illness that that's you know they're all agreeing on that they're not agreeing on trans people so there's only one person that should be happy with this and that's cleaner right klinger from mash he could finally get get out of the military on this but nobody else should be happy this is a disgrace that something this trump i was excited about when he was on the campaign trail look i wasn't frankly that excited about trump on the campaign trail that often but when he stood up for the community on the campaign trail carrying the flag around the stage i thought that that was a moment this is a step back and it's a gigantic is dangerous and included in this is we're talking about the military the battlefield we are yeah and i'm assuming you've seen the picture of leo of

and what they were so flipped out about was social security but that was because barry goldwater wanted to end social security and there was no way he could even talk about it i don't think we're ever to see medicaid medicare cut i don't think we're ever see so security gutted at all and only in d.c. i think those sort of new should you said well in d.c. if you don't add to a program is that considered a cut it's a bizarre world that we live in here in d.c. but ultimately no what has to happen is it ok you keep those existing programs sure you're adding to them but you're also trying to find a way for people to be able to afford these these other programs whether or not like health insurance whether or not that's the case it's a different story and frankly this latest iteration of bill i'm just fascinated by the political philosophy of the whole thing but anyway the koch brothers in the utility lobby are waging a war on solar power as a new york times reports the slight decline in home solar installations over the last year is in large part due to a wave of legislation aimed at crushing