but not barry goldwater.he ones that follow him in the 70s who basically come out of the nixon defeat should say the nixon resignation, they have a completely different although a lot of the same people, they have an entirely new organizing tactic. that's basically the take things people are angry about and use them as leverage to get them into the conservative coalition. it is very much a process. a lot of these issues are the 1960s social liberation issues. one of the guys said it's the achilles heel of the liberal democrats but he means gay rights, he means abortion, pornography, people in the grassroots in middle america really angry about the stuff. they don't really think of them as political issues. we are going to politicize them, we are going to organize a route them. it's a huge part of occult organizing discontent how they build a coalition that can basically do what goldwater failed to do but succeeded in 1980. >> now, people like me, i am a millennial socialist. a lot of us, people in the democra

we need all goldwater nixon with a management change.fix the operational change in 86 in goldwater nichols but i think if we basically get the committee to agree with the description of the problem and agree with the pressing nature and to get the pentagon. the problem you have is the pentagon is not very cooperative on some of these things because these are a lot of a lot alike and a lot of jobs that are cut into them in the pentagon so you got to get gothe pentagon like we talked in the green room, don rumsfeld was willing to take this on. so the pentagon if they basically signal to the congress which i think it's already inclined in that ar direction on the bipartisan defense committee. they want to get more bang for the buck . then you can work those things in a cooperative way but it took us three or four years to pass goldwater nichols over the objection of everybody in the pentagon . that was because you had some h really leaders in barry goldwater, sam non-, joe nichols. people like that. and you've got to have the cooperation of

nixon backed barry goldwater very strongly. he traveled with them for months but the rest of the rip on people leaned more towards nelson rockefeller who emerged as counterpoint to goldwater. big state digs governor big spender progressive wing of the party. >> the interesting thing that i hadn't thought of romney. >> he was the governor of michigan and his father -- george romney was a person who never finished college and he was born in mexico but he was someone who wore his heart on his sleeve. he was a very passionate person and he was a scrapper. wind he was running for governor he would wave at the opposition parties and jump into the trade union meeting or at the democratic board. his poll names or explosives. he appealed to the evangelicals. but he had a very strong appeal. for a while romney was riding high. there were extraordinary files of research but he always wanted the nomination. iraqis say he famously or infamously came back from vietnam from a trip to vietnam and observed -- but he changed his view because whe

before there was goldwater was national review that made the nomination in 1964 possible and before there was national review there was a young yale graduate. and therefore bill buckley won the cold war. >> that's consequential. >> that's the compressed version but i did that had consequences, building conservative ideas accessible and brought up a lab and a spirit of cheerfulness.to the business of political arguments. >> how important is the fun? >> went very goldwater might have my first vote in 1964, when he first went into politics i think hewas running for the council in 1948 . he wrote a letter to his brother that said it before life and it might be. >> it turned out to be pretty much for life but it certainly he brought me to do something else. >> first of all, writing about is fun. i love to write. i'm a compulsive writer. i can't stop. i write 100 columns a year and i'm always writing books. but i happen to like politics. i like a lot of politicians. i dislike some of them and dislikes some of their attributes but i admire the business. we have to have politics. we have to

before there was goldwater was national review that made the nomination in 1964 possible and before there was national review there was a young yale graduate. and therefore bill buckley won the cold war. >> that's consequential. >> that's the compressed version but i did that had consequences, building conservative ideas accessible and brought up a lab and a spirit of cheerfulness.to the business of political arguments. >> how important is the fun? >> went very goldwater might have my first vote in 1964, when he first went into politics i think hewas running for the council in 1948 . he wrote a letter to his brother that said it before life and it might be. >> it turned out to be pretty much for life but it certainly he brought me to do something else. >> first of all, writing about is fun. i love to write. i'm a compulsive writer. i can't stop. i write 100 columns a year and i'm always writing books. but i happen to like politics. i like a lot of politicians. i dislike some of them and dislikes some of their attributes but i admire the business. we have to have politics. we have to

against the united farmworkers , and friends with terry goldwater, against unions in general for his department store employees. he was a mexican/american republican in arizona. that also defied all of my expectations of what a latino conservative would look like. to the extent we know anything about latino conservatives, it's about the cuban-americans and cuban exiles in miami, florida. so having this example both in my grandfather and this mexican american department store owner, gave me a census was a much bigger array, more widespread, more deep than i had known about. i think the combination of those two things, my grandfather's example and my ongoing arguments with him about politics in this conservative department store owner in tucson is what set me down the road. >> host: i guess i should've set up a little better leading up to 2020 general elections estimated 32 million latinos were eligible to vote in a presidential election. that was the most ever and made latinos the largest voting bloc after non-hispanic white. in more than african-americans. historically we know latino

but there certainly were individuals characterizes having hated goldwater, for instance, some of themost colorful language that anyone has given us. >> let me offer, if i may, a bonus president. bill clinton. bolton was despised by his enemies. so once he was impeached, i wouldn't go so far as to say they hated clinton for what he did. but they certainly were disgusted by it. and not unlike a recent impeachment, where the vote secret, and where the vote less prescriptive my party, i think we would have a much different vote in the end. this is our speed around, if you will. we don't have a lot of time. here is a question i will we formulate from david meng. was it his style of governing or the policies that he espouse that johnson could be so hated? we will go in reverse chronological order. so nixon. >> interesting question. i'm going to say mostly it's a person but it's always been under emphasized as a reason for [inaudible] >> i think it's a combination of both, for example if you look at something like the turner commission, where johnson commissions i look into the weeds in's f

barry goldwater, gives us some of the most colorful language that anyone has given us in criticizing richard nixon. >> let me offer a bonus president, bill clinton during the era of impeachment, obviously he was despised by his enemies during his presidency but once he was impeached, i think the senate democrats in particular, i wouldn't say they we want so far as to say they hated clinton for what he did but they certainly were disgusted by it. it's one of the those cases, not unlike our recent impeachments, that where the vote secret and were the vote, you know, less prescriptive by party, i think we would have gotten a much different vote in the end. this is our speed round, if you will. everybody has to answer this one but we don't have a lot of time. this is a question from david mond, which i'm going to reformulate. i love this question. in the final analysis, was it his person and style of governing or the policies that the president espoused that led them to be hated? we'll go in reverse chronological order, just to spin things up. so, nixon. >> really interesting question. i

butra there were certainly individuals who might be characterized as having hated nixon, barry goldwater gives us some of the most colorful language in criticizing richard nixon. >> let me offer if i may a bonus president. bill clinton during the era of impeachment. he was despised by his enemies, but once he was impeached, i think the senatet democrats in particular i won't say they went so far as to say they hated clinton for what he did but they were certainly disgusted by it and it is one of those cases not unlike our recent impeachments that were the votes secret, and were the vote less g prescribedy party, i think we would have gotten a much different vote in the end. let mee throw this one -- this s our speed round if you will. everybody has to answer this one but we don't have a lot of time. this is a question i'm'm going reformna late from david. in the final analysis, was it primarily the person and his style of governing or the policieses that the president espoused that led them to be so hated? we'll gopi in reverse chronological order to spin things up. so nixon. >> really i

barry goldwater gives us some of the most colorful language that anyone has given us and criticizingxon. >> let me offer if i may a bonus president bill clinton during the era of impeachment obviously he was justified by his enemies throughout his presidency. once he was impeached i think the senate democrats in particular wouldn't say they would go so far to say they hated clinton for what he did there recently disgusted by it. it's one of those cases not unlike our recent impeachments are the votes secret and were devote less scripted by party i think we would've gotten a much different vote in the end. this is our speed round if you will. everyone is got to answer. that question comes in from david long i love this question. in the final analysis, right person and his style of governing or the policies the president ex-spouse that led them to be so hated? we will go in reverse chronological order to spin things up. so nixon? >> really the same question. in the interest of the speed round i'm going to say mostly it is the person. but i think the policies have been underemphasized a

with the economic proposals as 1964 lyndon johnson's landslide was huge 61 percent to the barry goldwaterhnston came in with a democratic senators and the one for the house majority this entire shambles of capitol hill with more to come but it is unconstitutional and illegitimate. i will need to say so clearly. tell us what you think at steve hilton and share this message. now let's bring in our guest never let a crisis go to waste fox news contributor tammy bruce. let's start with one of the two fundamental objections the legitimacy question. it is so brazen that pushing through the radical agenda after the results they got in the election. >> while there is never mandate with the left that's why they pretend which is why your monologue put it perfectly how joe biden presented himself. they knew he would never get elected unless they gave him and what this confirms to us is that it's never about what the american people wanted if it was they would be governing like senator sinema she one out of millions of votes with 55000 against senator make sally she knows her state is divided and she

barry goldwater, for example, gives us some of the most colorful language anyone has given us in criticizing richard nixon. >> let me offer if i may a bonus of a president. bill clinton obviously he was despised by his enemies during his presidency, but once he was impeached i think the senate democrats in particular i wouldn't say they went so far as to say they hated clinton for what he did, but they certainly were disgusted by it. and i think it's one of those cases not unlike our recent impeachments that where the votes secret and were the vote, you know, less prescripted by party i think we would have gotten a much different vote. in the final analysis was it primarily the person and his style of governing or the policies that the president espoused that led them to be so hated? we'll go in reverse chronological order just to spin things up. so nixon. >> i'd say mostly it's the policy but the reason has been emphasized as the reason for most of the hatred over time. >> i think it's a combination of both, and for example, johnson commissioned this group to look into the -- the reasons fo

and he was a strong proponent of conservative politics, of barry goldwater, of phyllis valvely and isclose friend ronald reagan. he was quite racist and is very pro-law and order, anti-hippie, right? and so he embodies this ideology in so many ways, and that's the john wayne that evangelicals over time really held up. in eric metaxas' words, we all know john wayne is the icon of american masculinity. that's just taken for granted and then we go from there. >> thanks. you those that the vietnam war was a, quote, a pivotal moment in the formation of an emerging evangelical identity. could you say a little bit about that? >> yeah. i -- that was one of the surprises. first was reading these popular books on evangelical masculinity the. i discovered a whole lot -- [inaudible] in the 2000s and the remarkable success of his book, of course it would, and and then there was a whole literature from the 19903s, some of the promise keepers movement, so i looked at some of the most popular books there and was able to, i just kept running up against many of these books opened with themes from the v

the objection of aseverybody in that was because you had some really really strong leaders rated goldwater'shols, and others and people like that and you've got have the cooperation because these ae exceedingly complex and they do more business with thehe department of defense therefore profit companies sms in the margie's corporations are so it's just going to take the pentagon the congress is going to take up from the outside and the news media and the nature of the problem inn getting people o be willing to show backbone and bite these bullets. >> thank you. so i think that one of the things that we should be careful about is not to overstate china's capabilities and russia's capabilities in russia as the gdp the size of new york state and lander clinton is mormon nuisance than a threat. that makes him a bigger threat. in my mind as to why we support him or why the world support seven respects him and when he really is, vladimir putinre reay is a dictator who is goal is to mess up everything we do is not just possible and in europe and avoid to see this with regard to the use of energy in

potential rivals the potential republican nominees for president in 1964 he talked about barry goldwater's name was being mentioned significantly. he talked about nelson rockefeller. he thought about rockefeller and he could not really understand what rockefeller was doing. about a year earlier rockefeller had left his wife tamir a yet much younger woman. i woman it was said in the press she stole from her husband. he had seemingly sacrificed everything for the woman he loved. because of the scandal that ensued because he was marrying the woman he loved. thinking about this and declared no man would ever love love more than politics. i think john tyler probably would have understood exactly the sediment john f. kennedy mentioned at that time. i appreciate your attention today. if you have not bought my book , this is the title of the book, this is the cover of the book. and before i go i just wanted to make sure i give you an indication of coming attractions. my wife and i have a book a biography of under contract with the university press of kansas and her manuscript is due is in october

helpful is to say that i have been around long enough and i think the general has as well to go to the goldwater days of legislation i have been in the consent force in the all volunteer force that was a great creation but i think it is time for us to think about to correct the unintended consequences that have just been identified we are on a ticking time bomb and we have seen nuclear modernization cost which will double 70 percent of the budget the next few years the conventional force will contract by force on the current course and what that was to the global war on terrorism, today we are spending more than the reagan bill that that it speak for much smaller military. i do believe the contest and is multifaceted and there could be smaller skirmishes with the south china sea and the like. that the real fight is primarily with china and to make decisions more quickly. this is a real contest. and well organized and well-funded they have the advantage if they are correct that crosses over decades. >> so those are realities we have to deal with and then the pentagon has a great place but that tr

it elected m barry goldwater. it elected john mccain. she is perfectly in that kind of tradition. the big government socialists are desperate, and that's what s you're seeing, desperation which i think the rest of the country is beginning to react to. that's why you're getting these chants at football stadiums and at talladega. the average american is fed up with being browbeaten by a bunch of crazy left-wing radicals. >> sean: mr. speaker, always great to have you. thank you, sir.t- also developing tonightys flip-flop fauci acting as a full-fledged card carrying member of this new radical extreme democratic socialistle party. not even trying to hide it. he is not only to ruin christmas once again and suggesting maybe you can together with your friends and family after all. he's also trying to claim that covid isn't spreading at the southern border. okay. that's a lie. by the way, also coming to the defense of gavin newsom on vaccine mandates and thinks that you need to give up your freedoms and just let him make the decision for you. because he's telling americans that we needri

this is something -- he maybe is singing them a little better than goldwater, but i think it's a mistake focus it more on the idea that power is its own reward, whether it be in the financial industry or in government, like power doesn't crede itself. unless we can figure out a better way to balance that power for, you know, for workers and voters and different groups, we'll be vulnerable. you know, i don't know that autocracy is purely the domain of donald trump. i think that we all have a bit of a tendency to be like, to grant amnesty to people that are doing things that we would prefer, even if that means that they're slightly undemocratic. there's many times i think to myself, just do an executive order, for god's sakes! just get it done! i think our focus on this one individuals comes at the price of systems and dynamics that have been in place long before this cat ever learned how to surf those waves. >> i think that what's going on is it turns out and we've learned a lot of this in recent decades, but especially maybe the last four or five years because donald trump was so disrupt

this is something -- he is maybe singing them better than goldwater.e to focus it all on this one individual and not to focus it more on the idea that power is its own reward, whether it be in the financial industry or in government. power doesn't cede itself. unless we can figure out a better way to balance that power for, you know -- for workers and voters and different groups, we will be vulnerable. you know, i don't know that autocracy is purely the domain of donald trump. i think that we all have a bit of a tendency to be like -- to grand amnesty to people that are doing things that we would prefer, even if that means they are slightly undemocratic. there's many times where i think to myself, just do an executive order, for god sake, just get it done! you know? i think our focus unhealthily on this one individual comes at the price of systems and dynamics that have been in place long before this cat ever learned how to surf those waves. >> i think that what's going on is it turns out -- we learned a lot of this in recent decades, but especially ma

>> i talk to a lot of republicans every day, talk to me who were goldwater, reagan republicans and id i get a few people that bless me out, but many others understand that i did my job, i followed the law, followed the constitution and they believe that's the honorable thing to do. >> brad raffensperger, it's an interesting book. folks will take a look. we'll be watching you on the campaign trail. appreciate you coming on and sharing your perspective with us, sir. >> thank you. integrity counts. >>> when we come back, democrats are hoping to pass both the infrastructure and social spending bills on tuesday. it's likely to be too late ♪ music ♪ ♪ dream, dream when you're feeling blue ♪ ♪ dream, dream that's the thing to do ♪ ♪ music ♪ when you see value in all directions, you add value in all directions. accenture. let there be change. firefighter maggie gronewald knows how to handle dry weather... ...and dry, cracked skin. new gold bond advanced healing ointment. restore healthy skin, with no sticky feeling. gold bond. champion your skin. in 2016, i was working at the amazon warehous

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in this essay from 1964, in the wake of barry goldwater and the idea of the john birch society, he's writing about this. but he's often going back and writes about conspiracy in the 18 fifties. this is from a texas newspaper in the 18 fifties. the monarchs of europe and the popes of rome are at this very moment plotting our destruction and the extinction of our political and religious institutions. we had the best reasons for believing that corruption has found its way into our chamber, and that our executive head is tainted with catholicism. in the 18 fifties, there is a worldwide conspiracy that it is from the pope, and it has already accepted the presidency. there are many things that you can probably say about franklin pierce. but i don't think he was upon of the pope. right? also, communists. this is joe mccarthy speaking in the 19 fifties. how can we account for our present situation unless we believe that men in the government are concerning to deliver us disaster? this must be a product of a gray conspiracy on a scale that it dwarfs any previous venture in the history of man.

this essay from 1964 in the wake of barry goldwater and the idea of john birch society, he's writing about this, but he's also going back in history and writes about conspiracy in the 1850s. this is from a texas newspaper in the 1850s. it is notorious fact that the monarchs of europe and the pope of rome are, at this very moment, plotting our destruction and threatening the extinction of our political, civic and religious institutions. our executive head is tainted with the infectious venom of catholicism. so in the 1850s there was a worldwide conspiracy existence the united states, but it's from the pope, and it has already infected the president. there are many things you can probably say about franklin pierce p but i don't think that he was a pawn of the pope. right? also communists. this is joe mccarthy speaking in the 1950s which is how can we account for our present situation unless we believe that men high in this government are concerting to deliver us to disaster. this must be a product of a great conspiracy that would dwarf any such previous venture in the history of man. s

in this essay from 1964 in the wake of barry goldwater and the idea of the john burke society, he's writing about this and he's going back in history and conspiracy in the 1850s and this is from a texas newspaper in the 1950s, it is a notorious fact that the monarchs of europe and the pope of rome are at this very moment plotting our destruction and threatening the extinction of our political, civil and religious institutions. we have the best reason for finding its way into the executive chamber and they're painted with the infectious venom of catholicism. in the 1850s there is a worldwide conspiracy against the united states and it is from the pope and it's already affected the presidency. there are things you can say about franklin pierce, but i don't think he was a pawn of the pope, right? also, this was joe mccarthy speaking in the 1950s. how can we account for our present situation unless we believe that men high in this government are delivering us from disaster. this might be a product as to dwarf any previous such venture in the history of man. the biggest in the history of man and