- he does try to make the case against goldwater. he says that goldwater's too extreme.n is very much for goldwater. all: we want barry! we want barry! - we must proceed in an orderly manner. [cheers and applause] narrrrator: on j july 16, 191, goldwateter acaccepts the e nominationo. ththe right wiwing of thee republicican party i is victori. - ♪ glolory glory h halleluja, glory y glory ♪ - the convnvention is s his ce to hitit the resetet butto, to restatart things s and s, "okay,y, "here's s what you've heaeard about m me. "you've e heard thatat i'm a a racist. "you've heard that i'm reckless. "you've heard that i'm an extremist. but i'm not." - you know, they thought that, "well, "now he's going to temper his language. now he's going to moderate." that's not the goldwater style. [cheers and applause] - i woululd remind y you ththat extremimism in the defefense of liliberty is no vicece. [cheerers and applplause] - ththat speechh is abobout making g a poin. "i a am an extreremist." - and let me remind you also that moderation inin the pursusuit of justste isis no virt

the r things that came after goldwater's defeat. charts, you weren't her, b goldwater led to racial polarization between the political parties. do you still believe he won the future? >> and i question whether goldwater led to the racial polarization. that might be the post doc fallacy. what i said goldwater in '64 and took 16 years to count the votes. i think a lot of political science and history so far indicates what drove the goldwater vote particularly in the south was foreign policy and that the sou■th■ had been trending republican, really, with eisenhower in '52, again in '56 and pógoldwater came alog not starting the wave, but cresting the wave. he won the futurehis is a dubio achievement, perhaps, we began to have what the political find in the early '50s, why can't we sort out our political parties and have crisp clean profile and politics more like europe. well, we did it and i don't think that everyone is happy. when i came here to work in the senate staff in 1970, it was completely such as fullbright of arkansas and mcc

is a vote against barry goldwater. it's not always a vote for lyndon. and so this front that that johnson's people are helping to manufacture or to kind of spread message that that barry goldwater is a kook suggests that in the end when people did vote for lbj in those extruded and airy numbers the 61% popular vote and the amazing majorities 295 in the house. and it's just it's not necessarily in support of what johnson wants to do going whole hog on a society it's also a of barry goldwater so that when you get into 65 and then 66 and the backlash really starts to come, although it's you know, it's there. as julie mentioned previously, you know, there's a reason for that because in some ways johnson's extraordinary success is a little bit of an anomaly. it's it's his ability to marshal those forces to you don't want the other. and that's also why johnson is concerned when he does win i mean he's morose almost on election night he's he's always fearing bobby kennedy course and that's that's out there because bobby wins

le ebbers is double 01 and build goldwater in brent buckley and brought moselle senior are all dead soon the national level for everybody except edwards. a deer friend i've known since 1961 called me on the phone one day and said this young conservativet he doesn't know u and you don't know him but you need to know him. i liked himlu so much and invitd him it back 10 late -- 10 days later for another lunch and morton said i spoke magic words to hamper the magic words i t spoke with morton i want you to come work with me and help me build the conservative movement. att that point i gave them a little pay increase. a some years he left and ended up working for ronald reagan in the white house. after a that he left and started somethingit called -- and theres no organization i can think of with a the leadership institute they trained well over a quarter millionop young people senators congressman c legislators. over the years in right now as we speak he is with my president of my company and i'm the my company is in jerusalem with four, five or six other national conservative marketers an

barry goldwater and bill buckley and brant senior and falwell robertson recently all did you know so i'm a i'm an active at the national level longer than everybody except dr. lee edwards. so lee is a dear friend i've known since 1961. and he calls me on the phone one day and says, let's have lunch with this young conservative of you need to know him. he doesn't know you. you don't know him. so we had nice lunch at the mayflower and so i liked the lunch money. so well invited. morton back ten days later for another lunch as he and i. and at the end the lunch, morton said, i spoke magic words to it and the magic words i spoke to him. i said, morton, i want you to come work with and help me build the movement. and he said at that he would taking a pay cut. i gave him a little pay increase. but anyway after some years he left and they ended up working for ronald reagan in the white house. and then that he left and started something the leadership institute and it's in there almost no i can think of as more important the conservative movement didn't leadership institute they've trained w

host: so what should we all know about barry goldwater?ty: [laughs] most people think of barry goldwater as the 1964 presidential candidate, when he lost the election to lyndon johnson that year. at the time, he was sort of the father of modern conservatism and he was portrayed as a radical conservative, which he was in many ways, but he also was very much a statesman. he was a senator at heart. after his election, he returned to the senate and lived most of the rest of his life as senator, he died not that long after he left office. but in the senate he was a different kind of character than the presidential candidate, very down-to-earth, much beloved in the senate. in became rather an elder statement by the 1970's and 1980's -- elder statesman. he was held in high esteem. but he had quirky part of personality. he was a big champion of ham radio, independent amateur radio . everywhere he went he would take his hand radio set with him, he actually built a radio studio in the russell senate office building so that he could go down to that s

they will come to me and sayornt goldwater.ecause so many people in the senate today don't remember barry goldwater. . so it would be something like that. or they would come in and say, i would really like to know about the origins of. -- the origins of the filibuster. can you tell us about the origins of the consent agreement? it's a challenge to come up with a new idea every single week, but a lot of the ideas came from senators themselves, they would come to me or my colleagues until maybe want to know more about this particular person or event or this part of the institution that is so important now, but we don't know why it got to the place it is. host: so what should we all know about barry goldwater? bemost think of barry goldwater as the 1964 presidential candidate, when he lost the election to lyndon johnson that year. at the time, he was sort of the father of modern conservatism and he was portrayed as a radical conservative, which he was in many ways, but he also was very much a statesman. he was a senator at heart.

. - barry goldwater loses in 1964 in an ababsolute lanandslide. it's one of the worst losses in american presidential history. and yet in many ways, he won the party. - '64 is a a moment that a a differentnt brand ofof conservatatives grab the r republican n par. ththis new rigight that iss no lononger seen as this kind of stuffy country club thing but has a real populaced edge to it. [cheheers and apapplause] - - by 1980, when rononald reagan wins, it becomes clear that this is barry goldwater's party. there's an old joke that barry goldwater really did win in 1964. it just took them 16 years to count the vote. [narrator] for 8 years, you've been a heartbeat away from the oval office... ...a loyal vice-president... [john f. kennedy] 'we will carry the fight and we shall win!' [cheering] ...biding your time, waiting your turn. you know the path to power... [jingle] ♪ ...kennedy! kennedy!... and you think you know the rules. ♪ kennedy! kennedy! kennedy! kennedy! kennedy! kennedy! ♪ kennedy! but what happens when you discover you don't even know how

barry goldwater and bill buckley and falwell. at the national level longer than everybody except for doctor lee edwards so he's a dear friend i've known since 1961 and he called me on l the phone one day and said i'm having lunch with a young conservative. so we had lunch at the hotel and saw it went so well we invited him back into ten days later just he and i and he said i spoke magic words to him that i want him to come work with me and help me build the conservative movement and he said atng that point i gave hima little pay increase, but anyway after some years he left and ended up working for ronald reagan in the white house and then after that he left and started something called the leadership institute and almost no organization i can think of that's more important than the leadership institute the trains well over a quarter of a million young people, many governors, senators,ro congressmen, legislators over the years. right now as we speak, i'm chairman of the company and they are in jerusalem with other national conser

one of the politicians who becomes very in this idea is senator barry goldwater, who's mounting a run. the president in 1964. so the first moment comes with the publication of this book and it's broad discussion and then friedman signs on as an advisor to goldwater and becomes one of the most effective spokespeople for what he calls a goldwater view of economics. i mean, that was quite a radical thesis at the time, wasn't it? i mean you take a look at the dominant keynesian models that were there at the time, the dominant paradigms in economics and. what's shocking, at least to a modern audience think and especially to non economists, is how little a role money play in our understanding of the economy before and schwartz really came along and made it a big deal their book and is it fair to say that this influence his influence and her influence has lasted to today and still influences us. yeah and i think a lot of what and schwartz proposed seemed outlandish and today seems common sense. you know, when they were writing the book, monetary policy was often said, be pushing on a string.

as much as they use all of the cards, they called barry goldwater hitler, they called ronald reagan hitlerey called george w. bush hitler. now they call donald trump hitler. but the real ones in the world they don't call hitler, they don't call president xi hitler or putin hitler or the iran hitler or the head of hamas or hezbollah hitler it's only conservatives and republicans were hitler. it's pretty sick. for the holocaust survivors on behalf of the nation, our nation i want to apologize to you, the way the democrat party in the media throw around the word hitler. when you look at your arms and you see burned numbers into your flesh and you know who hitler was in to watch the likes of msnbc and cnn at the pages of the new york times or the washington post around hitler like it's no big deal is pretty sick. but they will stoop to anything and everything for power. so there is joe biden. he is giving a speech at valley forge, he was going to give it on january 6 but in climate whether they decided they would move it to january 6. no george washington we know what took place at valley forg

i'm not going to vote for a philosophy i have opposed since i first supported barry goldwater for president in 1964. >> he would be delighted to vote for nikki haley? >> i would vote for her. i would have voted for any republican other than donald trump and vivek ramaswamy in this last go around. >> thank you so much. >>> as congress fights over a potential border deal, cities across the usr reaching breaking points, begging for more help to deal with surgeon the migrants. why this could now lead to services such as firefighters being cut. that is next. you may know adam schiff's work to protect the rule of law, or to build affordable housing, or write california's patients bill of rights. but i know adam through the big brother program. we've been brothers since i was seven. he stood by my side as i graduated from yale, and i stood by his side when he married eve, the love of his life. i'm a little biased, but take it from adam's little brother. he'll make us all proud as california senator. i'm adam schiff and i approve this message. growing up, my parents wanted me to become a doctor or

recall the order endorsed him in 1976, despite the fact that reagan is very sweet we have a goldwater's presidential election you may recall this beach to a time for choosing, and was the biggest boost in so-called he said, causing candidacy received only a single republican senator, paul axel nevada signed on to reagan's presidential quest start and paul was my political tour. and i was involved in the 76 and the 80 campaigns and this is exactly 100 percent correct open up reagan's republicans will sound very familiar i propose coming program from 30 percent tax cuts increased military budgets and meth was video according to george bush of course and then seven then he printed himself on not being part of the washington establishment had the buddy system and its collision with a forces that brought us our problems the congress the bureaucracy in the lobbyist in the big business and big labor like trump unlike most of his entrance political rivals reagan was six in excess blueprint was a publican's spontaneity and giving the tanks were in the voters play well republican leaders blasted

remember in 1968, when he gets the nomination, the previous person was barry goldwater. >> right.ctually could pass nixon off as a kind of moderating figure in republican politics. that's not the case with donald trump. >> yeah wchx and so, you know, huge polarizing figure. i would say nixon and trump have in common having lost the presidential election prior to this. >> and the crimemyness is similar. >> the other piece dean phillips has no shot. not on the ballots anywhere. he has promised in a phillips administration he would hire elon musk and bill ackman, the guy who chased claudine gay out of the harvard presidency. he's setting a tone which i don't think will help with democrats. >> yeah. i don't think that will win him any votes, necessarily. >> not at all. but for biden, though, talk about sort of where he stands. i mean, he has this war. he has a passionate affiliation and love for israel. he will stick with it. he will not change his policy. he has this problem. he's going to michigan soon. it's not clear arab american leaders will meet with him when he gets there. some

where we had independents willing to stand up to corruption, including the republicans such as barry goldwater stood up to richard nixon. that's not what we're seeing in the house and the senate today. all they want to do is investigate hunter biden. hunter biden wasn't given a job in the white house. i want to here more about jared kushner when he was at the white house and worked a $110 billion deal to sell weapons to the saudi arabians and then within a area leaving the white house, gets a $2 billion investment from the saudi sovereign wealth fund. i call that emoluments under the deferred plan. he waits to get out of office to collect the $2 billion from the saudis. i don't care what you think about the middle east. i don't think that is going to help bring peace to the middle east. so these payoffs for the trump family, the kushner family and the rest of it have a very significant impact on american foreign policy. everything from weapons sales to our diplomacy. the founders envisioned this as a threat. they said it was unconstitutional and illegal. it is about time we enforced the emolum

when goldwater ran, he got 7%. you've gone up one point every 56 years. that's going to take a while. if you're running the biden campaign, and they say are you worried about this, the answer should be yes, of course. you should be worried about everything. would you be rather where biden is or where trump is, and overwhelmingly, you would like to be where biden is. >> stewart steven, thank you very much and danny and vaughn, thank you as well. >>> what does it mean to be permanently barred prosecute maga camp. two doe fors don't want to find out. they pulled funding hours after donald trump threatened anyone who would. >>> joining us now mark sanford. i don't know if you're in south carolina right now. i hope you are and i wasn't wrong about that. mark, it's good to have you. two of these donors have dropped out. this sort of threat, what does it do to her ability to raise money? >> time will tell. i expect most of it's baked into the cake at this point. there will be a few folks that want to stay relevant and a few other folks that figure trump will tak

they are pursuing other forms of conservatism that hearkens back to the time before the goldwater years in 1964 that serve the republican party for the longest time. the republican party was founded until the roosevelt tapped the number one issue for republicans were the terrace and the general tariff. if you go to -- you'll see an exhibit of pressure from republicans who say democrats free trade leads to despair and republicans leads to prosperity and good will towards all men but that's the tradition that young conservatives are rediscovering to navigate out these problems that this neo-liberal consensus presents. >> do want to turn to two union membership and the need to support the union. i mentioned this. there are many statistics that show a lot of workers want to join a union and some think it's helpful to put this into light with a survey done by american compass which asked why union members would not want to be part of a union. the top reasons why were one, political involvement is toxic and two member dues and three corruption and become less at number nine with peer retaliat

nixon achieved during the presidency and the people that it often upset were conservatives kind of goldwater old taft republicans. and i wonder now even looking looking at the nixon i don't get ahead of myself because the 68 nixon's not president. he's not that in a way a lot of those policies might have been pursued by president nixon because there one voter, you know, on a ranch in stonewall, texas, who could play a very powerful force restraining congressional democrats against nixon. i mean, acting a cheerleader effectively and far as i can tell, nixon never said a crossword about johnson after this point. johnson never did the same about. nixon. all of a sudden, this intense rivalry that lasted decades just sort of melted away in 1968. yeah, we're going to get more into that in just a minute. but i want to ask about when lbj decided to end his political career. march 31, 1968. you describe great detail the events in his considerations. up to that point. you quote extensive leave from a first lady, ladybird johnson's diaries. what was lbj wrestle with as he tried to come to a firm? and w

and so pursuing other forms of conservatism that hearkens back to the time before the goldwater in 1964. i mean, look at the history of the republican party for the longest time, i think since really the republican party was founded until the roosevelt taft split like number one issue for republicans was the tariff, the general tariff. we must have the general tariff. general tariff. there's if you go down to the one of the smithsonian's down, you'll see in an exhibit a brochure from republicans that say, you know, free trade leads to poverty and despair. republican protectionism leads to prosperity. and goodwill to all men or something like. you're right. and that's the tradition that more young conservatives rediscovering and trying to navigate out of these problems, that this neo liberal consensus has left us with. so i want to turn to perhaps the chief remedy that sarah puts forward in the book, which union membership the need to support and boost unions. sarah mentioned this, but there is, you know, a lot of there are many statistics on this that show that, you know, a lot of worke

false, so they're pursuing other forms of conservativism that hearkens back to the time before the goldwater years in 1964. you look at the history of the republican party, for the longest time i think since really the republican party was founded until the roosevelt-taft split, i like, the number one issue for republicans was the tariff. if you go down to one of the smithsonians down there, you'll see in an exhibit a brochure fromom republicans that a say, u know, democrat free trade leads to poverty and despair. republican protectionism leads to prosperity and goodwill to all men or something like that, right?t? and that's the tradition that more young conservatives are rediscovering in trying to navigate out of these problems that this neoliberal consensus has left are us with. so i want to attorney to perhaps the chief remedy that sohrab puts forward in the book which is union membership. the need too support and boost union withs. he mentioned this, but there is, you know, a lot of -- there are many statistics on in that show, you know, a lot y of workers do want to join unions. but i t

you talk about barry goldwater.s pounding the podium saying you got to go, it is over. instead of 24 hours later beginning the rehab of donald trump. mccarthy going to mar-a-lago and standing by his side. that was the big moment, but it wasn't the only moment when they could have walked away. >> and they have another moment now with nikki haley. despite senators lying and saying now it is a black and white choice between joe biden or donald trump, they still have somebody out there that they could support. >> who is a republican. >> if the republican voters were behind nikki haley, it might be a different thing. >> let's talk about the new polling this morning that reveals donald trump is leading president biden in every closely watched swing state. but the former president has one major achilles' heel. he loses majority of voters in those key states if he is found guilty of the multitude of charges against him. joining us now, white house reporter for bloomberg. 53% say they would be unwilling to vote for donald tr

. >> it's the -- that is such a caricature that the right-wing puts on -- >> barry goldwater -- >> therebrant, mainstream portion of the democratic party that unilaterally labels people on the right insurrectionists. and it is dishonest to sit here and -- >> only people who are actually insurrectionists -- >> that's not -- >> that is certainly not true -- >> even what abby -- >> biden was saying -- not everybody. >> -- and then when they campaigned, with the brass knuckles, it most assuredly is everyone. >> guys, i've got to -- we have to leave it there. this was a fascinating discussion. and we need another hour to talk about that. everyone, thank you very much. and up next for, us the damning report on the uvalde elementary school massacre. but what will it end up meaning for those families of the 19 children of the twtwo teachersrs thatat were killlled that daday? >>> an unimaginable failure. the doj releasing a damning report today on wide scale of enforcement failures that played out during the 2022 school shooting in uvalde, texas. the nearly 600 page report takes through failures

>> that's part of the character that the right -- >> barry goldwater. >> there is a vibrant, vocal, mainstreamcratic party that unilaterally labels people on the right insurrectionists and it's dishonest to sit here for -- it's used as a blanket term. >> president biden is saying the maga wing of the problem party, he saying that it's not everybody. >> it's not everybody when they don't want it to be everybody. and when they campaign and the brass knuckles, it most assuredly is everyone, including the person -- >> guys, we've got to leave it here. but this was a fascinating discussion. there's probably another hour to talk about all of that, but everyone, thank you very much. up next for us, the damning report on the uvalde elementary school massacre. but what will it end up meaning for those families of the 19 children and two teachers who were killed that day? >>> an unimaginable failure. the doj releasing a damning report today on wide scale of enforcement failures that played out during the 2022 school shooting in uvalde, texas. the nearly 600 page report takes through failures in leadersh

two things that went along with the and the explanation was military training range and the gary goldwaterange. do you know anything different other than the official explanation? >> i was outside the scope of my communities. >> if we want to find out more, where to find files and who do we address? >> i could potentially -- i am familiar in terms of public but i'll give it to enclosed environment. >> if it is true they have an impact in this administration continues, what steps can congress take? i say that having two large training ranges them as the. >> initial procedures have been implemented with the u.s. navy have a report that has information. i understand the mechanism is still pending. that would be the next step. showing the topic and reducing the stigma. >> as a recipient of those reports, sometimes we get this reporting, would be nice they attached data in a system in place to handle multiple classifications of data and it was never built to be on this platform and it's a pain in the butt. >> i would agree with the previous two, the data has to be out there and have to acknowle

that went along with that, and the explanation was military training range off luke and the barry goldwater range. do you know anything different other than the official explanation of those lights? >> only what is in the public vernacular outside the scope of my duties. >> if we wanted to -- my question along with my colleague , if we wanted to find out more about that where would we go to find the files and who would we address? i know you totally we need to go to the skiff. >> i could potentially give you a vector on that. f that specific case, i'm familiar with in terms of public, i give you a vector in a closed environment. >> that would be good. thank you. so, if it is true that uap's are having impact on training ranges and this administration considers it to be legitimate, what steps can congress take to address training range impacts, and i say that having two very large training ranges in my state. we will start with mr. graves and go on down the panel. >> some of the initial procedures have been implemented such as within the united states navy that have a range follower report t