herr, and maybe miss goldway, and mr. postmaster goldway, and mr. postmaster general, mr. donahoe, you as well. between 1990 and 2007, did overall volume for the postal service go up or down? >> it went up. >> at precisely the time the internet was coming into full play in the united states, is that correct? >> yes. >> the relationship between the internet and mail volume is not necessarily, always, inevitably a negative one. might one conclude that, given that statistic, miss goldway? >> my theory is that human beings have an insatiable appetite for communication, and everything will grow, but it grows in different stages. >> my time is limited but it went up? >> it went up. >> did it go up last year? did mail volume go or down last year? >> mail volume went down. >> it went down over the previous year? >> yes, slightly. >> slightly. i think you made reference to the impact of the internet on your business, but the internet can also generate business, can it not? if i order a book from amazon, not only is that business for the postal service, but it is actually lucrative