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joining me again is goldie taylor. goldie, it's been amazing how quickly the right wing has pivoted on this issue to attack the president. how do you see it? >> this really is just the art of deflection, reverend al. it truly, truly is to say that. something caught me in his phrases to say that this is african-american culture, that it is in our culture to be violent that certainly debev space station mir. s the character of law-abiding, peace loving african-americans, the millions of us who survive, cope, make it in this country called america. and to say that by our very nation, we are violent, i take absolute offense to that. the other part of this is to say that bill o'reilly has any greater understanding of the issues you and i are on the front line working every day is absolutely ludicrous. i just have to tell you in your face. the other part of this is you know there are thousands of people working on the front line, helping to repair education, many in after school sights for children, making sure these kids get

>> back with me now is goldie taylor. some tried to mock her. person in that interview, goldie. >> she certainly did. and to me she really came across as a strong person on the stand. i think the difference here is really a cultural resentivity. whether or not those jurors were able to identify with her. >> we asked about the cultural disconnect, what do you think? >> absolutely. i think there was a clear disconnect. that these six jurors could not see themselves in rachel jeantel. they could not see themselves in trayvon martin's shoes. but they did seem to have a connection with george zimmerman. and i think the case really did turn on that. >> now, was language -- do you think it has anything to do with the case? >> i think language had a lot to do with the case. but i think it was just cultural perspective. i heard the juror on another network last night say that -- she kept referring to "those" people, how "they" live. not about how this part of our community lives. it was never about us and we. it was "them," "those." that's where the disc

. >>> anthony weiner, let's get to goldy taylor, msnbc contributor, managing editor of the goldy taylor project as well. david is a white house reporter for the "washington post." and peter suitorman, for reason magazine, good to see all of you. anthony weiner's campaign manager has now quit, as you know. the candidate for mayor saw his poll numbers plunge nine points this week. favorable numbers have plunged more than twice that. this is the warm reception he got on staten island. >> if i conducted myself in the manner you conducted yours, i would be gone. >> goldy, with voter reaction like that, and his top aide leaving now, how long can we expect anthony weiner to stay in this thing? >> i think the campaign is effectively over. i have never seen a case where a campaign manager quit a campaign or been dismissed in these final days, and that campaign was able to stay and move on. the campaign staff itself will take a horrible hit to its morale. it doesn't really matter what anthony weiner does at this moment, he's not going to be the mayor of new york. so in the words of, you know, tha

. >> and goldie taylor, there's been a lot made of rachel jeantel's demeanor in the case. how are you struck by george zimmerman's demeanor? does his calm demeanor strike you in any way? >> i find it disconcerting. you have just taken a human life, whether that was purposely, on accident, on unintentionally, it doesn't matter. you have just ended a human life and you are calm. so that's a bit disconcerting to me. he has had a number of inconsistencies today. not just with himself but with the physical evidence as we know it. he said that trayvon martin jumped out of bushes. there were no bushes. he said martin sat up and said you got me. after he had been shot in the heart. so i just think that we may not ever get to see george zimmerman on the witness stand being cross-examined. but what we're going to havinging issing this prosecution cross-examining these tapes of his interviews using other witnesses to do so. >> okay. i want the panel. >> that's going to be problematic. >> nbc's kerry sanders is joining me live now from florida. give us the latest from sanford. >> joy,

. >> goldie taylor final thought. if it struck you that the video show a confrontation ta took place around the first house in that at twin lakes but the actual body was found about three houses in. your final thoughts. >> i think when we begin to hear the physical evidence in this case, i suspect that it may contradict some of the things that george zimmerman said in his initial interview and follow on interviews with police officers. i think you may find that george zimmerman that the physical evidence impeaches his statements to police. and that's going to be problematic. i don't think you're ever going to see a day that george zimmerman takes the stand. offer however, that being said, it only leaves his statements to police as his voice on this case. and i think that's going to be a very real problem for him. >> all right. goldie, jonathan, john and lisa, thank you very much. we're going back into the courtroom for the trial of george zimmerman. >> the jury has seen now and is already in evidence. and ask you, is

. >> joining me now to discuss this is republican strategist joe watkins and msnbc contributor goldie taylor. goldie, what do you make of north carolina? you heard kate hagan there and her response to the developments in that state. even with public notice, which she's taking note of, would it have made a difference? doesn't seem to be working in texas, for instance. >> well, i don't know that it would have made a lot of difference in how the legislation was passed. but it may have made a difference in how certain members of the legislature might have been held accountable with their constituents back home. so in north carolina and in ohio, there was a bit after sneak attack. i think we can all agree that abortion should be rare and safe. what has happened is they've not only gone in and looked for in sort of ingenious ways to break what has been held up as a constitutional right, they've gone in and forbid hospitals from making these transfer agreements between the health care provider and the hospital. that leaves them without a hospital back-up, without meaningful health care and it leave

and msnbc contributor goldie taylor. goldie, i want to come right to you and get your emotionally honest response to rush. >> my emotionally honest response? he's a carnival barker. you know, rush limbaugh is not the first in history to take advantage of waves of populism. this happens to be a more extended wave, something i think brought on by the election of an african-american president. but the real answer here, rush limbaugh is pimping his audience. he is taking advantage, fanning the flames of fear for his own personal gain. and that's really the story here. he really does need a history lesson. the civil war was not fought over the question of slavery. it was follow the over nullification and states' rights. lincoln said famously, "if i could keep the union together and not free a single slave, i would do it." so i think rush limbaugh not only needs a history lesson, he needs a gut check. at the end of the day i think some people find him comical. other people find him sort of, you know, innocuous. i think he's dan

as goldie taylor indicated, it's not who was on the top, it's who started it.n my body and you assault me, i defend myself and you kill me, then the children of poor and people of color in this country don't have the same quality of justice as given to those who are able to muster up resources and defend themselves against such a charge. i don't think that there is a great expectation to begin with that justice would ultimately be done because there had to be such an outcry for mr. zimmerman to begin with. so part of it was bringing him in the courtroom to be subject to criminal proceedings to begin with, but that's not enough. we should be outraged that a young person who is innocent loses his life, and the person who believes god led him down this path will perhaps, be acquir acquired. this reinforces patterns of egregious injustice, and if you ask me, the pattern for mr. zimmerman is an acquittal. >> you seem to be speaking of history when you describe this particular case. you seem to be alluding to the many occasions in the past when individual young, blac

that is dangerous. >> goldie taylor and dr. james peterson, i wish we had more time.h have collectively provided a wonderful explanation of that will sewer of absolute crap that we just had to wash. coming up, is the glass half full or half empty on immigration reform? but first, a royal scolding already? >> i'll remind him of his timeliness when he's a bit older because i know how long you've all sat out here. [ phil ] when you have joint pain and stiffness... accomplishing even little things can become major victories. i'm phil mickelson, pro golfer. when i was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis, my rheumatologist prescribed enbrel for my pain and stiffness, and to help stop joint damage. [ male announcer ] enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, nervous system and blood disorders, and allergic reactions have occurred. before starting enbrel, your doctor should test you for tuberculosis and discuss whether you've been to a region where certain fungal infections ar

joining me now is goldie taylor and joe madison. thank you for being here.re o'reilly and the rest up to? >> well, they're up to diversion. that's exactly what it is. look, the far right, when you hear them talk, talk as if everything is personal responsibility, as if public policy has nothing to do with it. so take wall street for example. personal responsibility. people who drove wall street into the ground did what? turned to government, public policy, to help bail them out. and we did. so what they're trying to say is the problem with the black community is that they are pathological. they're pathological criminals. they're path logically ignorant. and therefore when it comes to public policy, that is the need to invest in the community. why bother? because they are just pathological. it is inherent. and that's really what is going on. number two, and finally, they are going -- look, women are ticked off because of abortion rights. hispanics are ticked off because of these draconian attitudes that the far right is preaching on radio. and blacks are ticke

. >> joining us is msnbc contributor goldie taylor and dana milbank a political columnist with the "washingtonldie, the president has made a rather extraordinary unannounced appearance today at the white house to talk about the george zimmerman acquittal. and here's part of what the president said. take a listen, goldie. >> so folks understand the challenges that exist for african-american boys, but they get frustrated i think if they feel there's no context for it. and that context is being denied. and that all contributes i think to a sense that if a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario that from top to bottom, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different. >> goldie, when the president says that the outcome might have been different, what does he mean? >> i think he explicitly means if the roles had been reversed. if george zimmerman had been african-american, if trayvon martin had been white or hispanic or white hispanic. then maybe just maybe the police officers would have investigated more fully that night. maybe just maybe there there would have been

i'm joined now by goldie taylor and professor james peterson, director of africanen studies at lehighrsity. professor peterson, let's begin with these two bills. was this not precisely what ruth bader ginsberg feared when he she wrote last month a governing political coalition has an incentive to prevent changes in the existing balance of voting power? >> that is exactly right. and people should read her opinion. it's very, very powerful and her dissent that have particular decision. you can also measure this by the expedient sit with which certain states move towards these different types of laws that would impede the voting, mostly of minorities. sometimes also of college students and seniors and other pockets or demographics that tend to vote democratic. at the end of the day, the gutting of the voting rights act decision was such a strange piece of information because at the end of the day, it argues that because preclearance was working, that we no longer needed preclearance. >> yes. >> but obviously, if preclearance is working, we still do need it. >> and here are these examples

the goldie taylor project, joins me now to discuss all of this. we should note that msnbc has reached out to zimmerman's attorney for comment on this but we have not heard back. thank you both for being here this morning. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> lisa, i'd like to start with the legal issues here. maddie had a lot to say about why she voted to acquit after first wanting to find zimmerman guilty of second-degree murder so let's listen to a little bit more of that interview. >> how did you go from nine hours feeling he was guilty of second-degree murder to not guilty? >> it was hard. a lot of us wanted to find something bad, something that we could connect to the law because all six of us -- well, let's not speak for all six of us, but for myself, he's guilty, because the evidence shows he's guilty. >> he's guilty of? >> killing trayvon martin, but we couldn't prove that intentionally he killed him and that's the way that the law was read to me. >> lisa, it's shocking to hear a juror say the evidence said he was guilty but she still voted to a

in atlanta is msnbc contributor goldie taylor.in new york, toure, the co-host of the "cycle" and the hardest working man on this network. toure, the zimmerman trial. >> can we go to that question? is o'reilly debasing white culture if little wayne is having an impact on black culture, surely o'reilly is on television. >> i just said that's for another race conversation. let's deal with what's in front of us. the zimmerman trial, the president's comments, the attorney general's speech. they all opened up a conversation on profiling, social context and stand your ground laws. but mr. o'reilly doesn't want to have that conversation. he wants to have a conversation about single parent families and the lyrics in hip-hop. why does he want to have that conversation rather than the one that we've all been directed to have? >> that's a simple question because he's an idiot. one of the points that he made. >> give me a more serious answer than just he's an idiot. >> one of the points he made is that black women, young black women should sto

but i want to bring in now msnbc contributor, goldie taylor, defense attorney, karen desoto, and msnbc, professor james peterson. and if i might, let's begin with trayvon martin's father, tracy martin, who was asked on the stand his reaction the moment he heard what had happened. take a listen. >> can you describe to the jury what was going through your mind when you were listening to that? >> basically what i was listening to, i was listening to my son's last cry for help. i was listening to his life being taken. and i was coming, trying to come to grips that trayvon was here no more. it was just tough. >> goldie, i was watching that and i found that a painful and plaintive cry of a father. what was your reaction to that testimony? >> my reaction was much the same. that tracy martin fought hard for this day and that he is getting this day in court to defend his son, which he -- he doesn't believe he ought to be able to do. you want to know some background about tracy martin and his relationship, trayvon. trayvon martin saved his father from a house fire. they were best friends. so thi

michael skullnick and goldy taylor. i'm going to stay with you for a second, goldy.ecause ben crump talks about how resolute these parents are to get justice for their son. they did not. in your way of looking that goldy, you live in the south. unfortunately we have seen these tragedies too many times before. this is the 50th anniversary offof ed gars killed in the south. what do you think the legacy of trayvon martin will be? >> i say this hthis on behalf o all of the panelists here. we are honored to be here and talk about this conversation. it is a rarity that all of my children are on one place in any given even pg. last night by sheer coincidence we were all together and i watched as each of my children slumped. there was a sadness, that hung over the house for a very long time. we were, as a family, speechless. this was a trial that so many of us fought for. we wanted due process. to unfold itself, and it has. i think we have to be satisfied with the verdict but not with the judgment. there are other avenues this family can take to receive or at least attempt t

joining me now our goldie taylor and joe madison. at the naacp convention last year, joe was given an award for using media to promote civil rights. thank you for being here, and joe, congratulations. >> well, thank you. and i accept that award on behalf of all of us who understand what frederick douglass understood and other people who understand that journalists can be activists and have a responsibility. because we're the first drafters of history. i'm not a journalist. but we have to make sure that this is, as you say, not just a moment, but it is a movement. and so thank you very much. >> let me ask you quickly, joe, because i have some got to go to goldie. do you think some of the right-wingers are disappointed that there wasn't violence and incendiary rhetoric at the rallies this weekend? they had whipped this fear up. >> of course they were disappointed. you know, there is an old country term. it's called poking the bear. and that's what they were doing. and the reality is that what they need to understand is this. that the c

joining me now is eric walert, senior fellow at media matters and msnbc contributor goldie taylor. k you both for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> goldie, they mock the conversation but have no credibility on race issues. what's your reaction? >> you know, it harkens back to less dramatics who bill o'reilly reminds me of. said that he was divisive and bad for america. so we're hearing the same rhetoric play itself out today. i think that it's unfortunate, really, that we're at a time in this country where we've advanced so far in terms of human and civil rights in this country and yes we do have quite a ways to go. it's quite unfortunate to find these kinds of voices really sort of holding that conversation back, keeping it off the table and keeping us more and more divided. >> you know, eric, you track these guys. what is the strategy here? >> the strategy that we've seen the last couple weeks -- in the trial and verdict. so they wanted to expand that into a discussion about race. it was another opportunity to do a lot of divisive race baiting. they have done it since obama was

joining me now msnbc contributor goldie taylor and rich gaylin publisher of mullins.com. >> let's startu, goldie. is she unstoppable? >> no. she wasn't unstoppable last time or the time before that. the issue is democrats have a problem with coronations. primary elections are just that, when people go to the ballot box and choose the person of their choice. hillary clinton is a strong candidate. she has a lifetime of experience. she is likely the most vetted candidate that will ever enter a presidential race. i have great respect for her and her lifetime of work, but she's going to have to, if she chooses, get into this race and run a vigorous campaign just as if she had never run before. i think, you know, name i.d. and some of these other things will certainly be on her side and shoel' certainly have the wind at her back, but i don't discount joe biden and many of the other strong democrats. by the way, no one really knew who barack obama was this time when we had the first election when he came to office in 2008 so we may not even know, may not even know who the nominee is today. >>

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i want to go to you goldy taylor on that. molly west, daughters of don west, one of the attorneys for george zimmerman, both posted instagram photos in the case of molly west indeed a photo taken on tuesday confirmed, also to me by zimmerman defense team and going out to ice cream picture. but rachel west posted a picture in orlando sentinel photo of rachel jeantel. i should note that both of their accounts were closed. it was startling comment that wasn't funny. >> it was startling. maybe one of the legal counsel can tell us, i don't know of a way that the judge can sanction mr. west for this photo that his daughter captioned and posted herself. i'm not sure there is a way out of that. i would not want to be held responsible for my children's social media account. i have grown children who have accounts, instagram, facebook, twitter, you name it. i would not want to be responsible and called into account for what my children do. i think it is an unfortunate incident but one that should not have a bearing on the case going fo

i am joined by veteran prosecutor paul henderson, contributor goldie taylor and columnist. paul, i want to start with you. what should we expect next week as the defense begins to make its case? what are you going to be listening for? >> is that to me? >> yes. >> i just got audio. i am looking for the defense to come in and try to attack all of the evidence that they have heard this week that the prosecution has put on. they started off by putting on zimmerman's family and relatives to talk about that was his voice on the tape. next what we will see are their science experts and their experts attacking the objective evidence that we have in this case to try to diminish some of the damage that the prosecution evidence that indicates inconsistencies with what zimmerman's version has been. the question is whether or not zimmerman will get on the stand. i just don't -- it doesn't seem likely to me. i don't think it is going to happen but you just never know. >> do you think that having both trayvon's mother and then having zimmerman's mother say it was her son, the goal of that

. >>> an msnbc contributor and managing editor of the goldie taylor project. and bob e. a syndicated columnist. and raul reyes, a usa today columnist and nbc latino contributor. goldie, let's continue that conversation that kristen welker and i were having about this tone, this cadence, this volume, everything about the way the president spoke yesterday. is this a president we have not heard from before? >> i think we have actually heard from this president. we've heard more and more from him as this president has continued to grow and evolve, as we do with all presidents. i listened to this speech again this morning, and i heard nuances there that i did not here on yesterday. i think the more you sort of dive into this thing, the more personal you know that it feels. and so i'm actually deeply proud of this president and that he did it sort of on the fly yesterday. >> what nuance stuck out to you that you saw today that you didn't see before, goldie? >> i think the biggest nuance that i saw that i think everybody missed is that this president spoke honestly about wrappin

goldie taylor and joe madison, thank you for your time tonight, and have a great weekend. >> you too.k you, reverend sharpton. >>> coming up next, we need to watch what is happening in north carolina. republicans are trying to make it harder for everyone to vote. but there is a plan. >>> and before brown very the board of education, before the voting rights act, before affirmative action, something major happened on this day, 65 years ago that allowed all of that to happen. stay with us. [ male announcer ] here's a word you should keep in mind. unbiased. some brokerage firms are. but way too many aren't. why? because selling their funds makes them more money. which makes you wonder -- isn't that a conflict? search "proprietary mutual funds." yikes! then go to e-trade. we've got over 8,000 mutual funds, and not one of them has our name on it. we're in the business of finding the right investments for you. e-trade. less for us. more for you. the fund's prospectus contains its investment objectives, risks, charges, expenses, and other important information and should be read and consider

goldie taylor. great to have all three of you here.ing so deeply into the court coverage this morning, the semantics going back and forth. jonathan, your take as we get up to this final chapter with the jury to be coming in here shortly and closing arguments to begin. >> well, what's interesting about all of this, all of the stuff that we've been watching the last few hours has been out of the jury's presence. some of the more interesting moments of this case have happened with the jury out of the room, once again showing how we, the viewers, folks who are following this case in the media know a whole lot more than the jury will ever know about this case. that's what i find so fascinating among many things. what i find so fascinating about this case and this trial. >> goldie, we have been watching this. this morning we had a report briefly from our craig melvin who's been outside the courthouse giving reports and told us that the police department has put a request in to the judge -- not sure if judge nelson has received it yet, that t