. >> sergeant golis has worked in corrections for 15 years.s who work in this kitchen. >> the biggest challenge for me personally as the sergeant here is to maintain the safety, security and integrity of the kitchen here at turner gilford knight center. take these two carts, move them back that way. we employ about 124 sentenced inmates. the inmates have to be monitored at all times. we work with different types of tools and implements here and inmates have to be searched on a daily basis. all of our utensils, knives, spoons, they're all accounted for on an hourly basis here. everything is secured to the tables via a cable. if for some reason we happen to lose a tool or something happens, we would search the kitchen, search the inmates. but we've never had a situation like that. most of the inmates are very cooperative. they understand they have a short amount of time left and basically we rarely have any problems here. >> i get along good with all of the officers, sergeant, corporals. you know, we're inmates and of course, they're the people

interview when they asked pope francis who is jorge bergoglio before he became pope, he said jorge bear golyto say that, and i do. i think that should be an open door to all sinners, all of us. martha: and what's also being written a lot today is he's not saying women should become priests, although he wants them to have a bigger role in the church, he's not changing any of the rules. he's not suddenly, you know, sort of making a big turn. >> no, but he's opening up a conversation like it's never been opened before. and he's doing it knowingly -- knowing perfectly well that this is causing ripples. and this is the type of conversations we're having now gets the church dialoguing, and my bet is while doctrine, dogma's not going change on the big issues that are unchangeable, there are other issues that are based on tradition that are not unchangeable doctrine that will be looked at very seriously. martha: yeah. and be it does put the focus on love, mercy, forgiveness and maybe getting away there some of these discussions. thanks, thank you and thank you, anne marie. >> thank you. martha: for