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[ screaming ] >> sergeant gonell, in the video we just saw someone throw a large speaker. that was directed your way? >> i was further inside. that was after ward, toward the end, before they got cleared when they threw the speaker at me, and i was further inside the tunnel. >> what types of weapons did you see used against your fellow officers? >> police shields, police baton, a hammer, sledgehammer that you saw on that video, flag poles, tasers, pepper spray, bear spray, rebar, hacks, pvc pipes, copper pipes, rocks, table legs broken down, guardrails for the inauguration stage, cones, 4x4, any weapons, any items that they could get their hands on. >> you were further down the corridor, but a speaker was thrown at you and it hit your foot, is that correct? >> correct, sir. >> we have a photo -- >> it was thrown my way it hit somebody else and it hit my foot. >> we have a photo of your foot here that we'd like to show. that is correct. >> can you tell me how you're doing? you mentioned in your opening statement about your continued physical therapy related to the foot. can
[ screaming ] >> sergeant gonell, in the video we just saw someone throw a large speaker. that was directed your way? >> i was further inside. that was after ward, toward the end, before they got cleared when they threw the speaker at me, and i was further inside the tunnel. >> what types of weapons did you see used against your fellow officers? >> police shields, police baton, a hammer, sledgehammer that you saw on that video, flag poles, tasers, pepper spray, bear...
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i'd like to ask sergeant gonell. not everyone knew that you were fighting in the hall on the lower west terrace on january 6th. can you tell me what happened in that hallway? while you were there, metropolitan police arrived to help you out. what difference did that make? >> sure, ma'am. before i start, by no means am i suggesting that we will go to his house. i apologize for my outburst. after we retreated to the lower west terrace entrance, it was rough, it was terrible. everything that was happening to us, it was simultaneously. we didn't have a lot of support. we had probably like 50 officers at most when we went back in. once we were there, we started saying to ourselves, they say this is the entrance they're going to try to breach. we're going to hold the line. we're going to do everything possible. without. even coordinating among ourselves, the few officers who were still carrying shields, we automatically assumed position in the front. some of the shields were taken, ripped apart from the officers' hands. so
i'd like to ask sergeant gonell. not everyone knew that you were fighting in the hall on the lower west terrace on january 6th. can you tell me what happened in that hallway? while you were there, metropolitan police arrived to help you out. what difference did that make? >> sure, ma'am. before i start, by no means am i suggesting that we will go to his house. i apologize for my outburst. after we retreated to the lower west terrace entrance, it was rough, it was terrible. everything that...
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sergeant gonell, you mentioned your time in iraq. at any time in your military service did you change how you defended the person to your left or right or how you trained with them based on political affiliation? >> no, sir. the way i view it at that time i'm an american and the person next to me is an american. i would do everything possible to defend him and the country. >> you guys did that. you guys did that in the blue. >> i want to say that's the mission of this committee. we may have our deep differences on other policy issues, but we're all americans today. we thank you for holding that line. >> congressman, if i may respond to -- >> yes. >> when you asked about the armed party, when you the officers showed me what appeared to be a police badge, i don't know too many police officers -- this is just me being a police officer for 13 years -- that carry their badge and don't carry a gun with them. when you looked on their hip, i saw a print. i didn't see a gun, but a reasonable police officer believe it's a gun. >> a print is ba
sergeant gonell, you mentioned your time in iraq. at any time in your military service did you change how you defended the person to your left or right or how you trained with them based on political affiliation? >> no, sir. the way i view it at that time i'm an american and the person next to me is an american. i would do everything possible to defend him and the country. >> you guys did that. you guys did that in the blue. >> i want to say that's the mission of this...
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and i continued to work for 15 consecutive days until after the inaugu inauguration. >> office gonell added another evidence point in the case against donald trump. >> it was his supporter he send over to the capitol and he could have done a lot of things, one of them was to tell them to stop. >> donald trump's first tweet to the attackers who he sent to the capitol was to encourage them while they were trying to kill officer gonell and officer fanone and officer daniel hodges who we have all seen many times in video, this video being crushed, almost to death at one of the doors at the entrance of the capitol. we have heard officer hodges screams on that video but today we heard him describe what happened to him in that doorway. >> my arms were pinned to effectively useless, trapped against the shield on my left or door frame on my right with my posture granting me no physical strength or movement. i was defensive gradually sustaining injury from the increasing pressure of the mob. directly in front of me a man seized the opportunity at my vulnerability to grab the front of my gas mas
and i continued to work for 15 consecutive days until after the inaugu inauguration. >> office gonell added another evidence point in the case against donald trump. >> it was his supporter he send over to the capitol and he could have done a lot of things, one of them was to tell them to stop. >> donald trump's first tweet to the attackers who he sent to the capitol was to encourage them while they were trying to kill officer gonell and officer fanone and officer daniel hodges...
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so everyone can hear. >> best use of an exaggeration in a supporting role, the winner is aquilino gonellterally mightier than the sword. >> we had all these items and things that were thrown at us, and used to attack us. those are weapons. no matter if it is a pen, the way they were using these items, it was to hurt officers. >> what is your reaction to someone who would move to belittle what you did? >> this is the first time i see that comment coming from this particular person. to watch her trash, because that's what it is, a commentator that would trash somebody who, in my opinion, wasn't there. so unless you were there in that crowd, being attacked by the rioters, you would not know, and you will never know, you never -- my devotion for the country is bigger than the vitriol that she's puking out. because that's not news. that's not worthy of saying -- but that person never served the country, will never raise her hand like i did so many times. and yes, i got emotional. but i got emotional because it hurt me that my patriotism is bigger, is bigger than people who are born in this co
so everyone can hear. >> best use of an exaggeration in a supporting role, the winner is aquilino gonellterally mightier than the sword. >> we had all these items and things that were thrown at us, and used to attack us. those are weapons. no matter if it is a pen, the way they were using these items, it was to hurt officers. >> what is your reaction to someone who would move to belittle what you did? >> this is the first time i see that comment coming from this...
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officer gonell, i would like to ask you -- you describe in your testimony as it being like a mid evil battlefield, and what you were subjected to was like fighting in an midevil battlefield. i believe you said you really thought you were the last line of defense, is that right? >> that is correct. >> so officer, when you -- >> sergeant. >> when you think about that, and the cruelty and the violence of the assault that day, and then you hear former president trump say, quote, it was a loving crowd. there was a lot of love in the crowd. how does that make you feel? >> it's upsetting. it's a pathetic excuse for his behavior for something he, himself, helped to create, this monstrosity. i am still recovering from those hugs and kisses that day that he claimed that so many rioters, terrorists, were assaulting us that day. if that was hugs and kisses, then we should all go to his house and do the same thing to him. to me, it's insulting, demoralizing, because everything that we did was to prevent everyone in the capitol from getting hurt. what he was doing, instead of sending the military,
officer gonell, i would like to ask you -- you describe in your testimony as it being like a mid evil battlefield, and what you were subjected to was like fighting in an midevil battlefield. i believe you said you really thought you were the last line of defense, is that right? >> that is correct. >> so officer, when you -- >> sergeant. >> when you think about that, and the cruelty and the violence of the assault that day, and then you hear former president trump say,...
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we're joined today by sergeant aquilino gonell of the united states capitol police, a 15-year veteran of the capitol police, he's assigned to a first responder unit in the united states capitol police's uniformed services bureau. before joining the capitol police, sergeant gonell served eight years in the united states army and spent 545 days in iraq, where his base was under constant mortar, rocket and indirect fire by insurgents. he's received multiple awards and commendations for his military service. we also are joined by officer michael fanone of the metropolitan police department in washington, d.c. officer fanone began his law enforcement career with the united states capitol police, shortly after the terrorist attack of 9/11. for nearly 20 years officer fanone has served the citizens of the district of columbia and special units force focusing on narcotics investigation and violent criminals. officer daniel hodges is a member of the civil disturbance unit 42 in the d.c. metropolitan police department, where his responsibilities include riot response. prior to his service on th
we're joined today by sergeant aquilino gonell of the united states capitol police, a 15-year veteran of the capitol police, he's assigned to a first responder unit in the united states capitol police's uniformed services bureau. before joining the capitol police, sergeant gonell served eight years in the united states army and spent 545 days in iraq, where his base was under constant mortar, rocket and indirect fire by insurgents. he's received multiple awards and commendations for his...
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. >> officer gonell believed that the officers that trump sent were going to kill him. >> i, to, was being crushed by the rioters. i could feel myself losing oxygen and recall thinking to myself, this is how i'm going to die, defending this entrance. >> it took hours for officer aquilino gonell to find the time to respond to all of the messages on his phone from family members wondering if he was still alive. arrived at home >> at nearly 4 am on january 7th. i had to push my wife away from me because she wanted to hug me. i told her, no. because of all the chemicals that my uniform had on. sorry. i couldn't sleep because the chemical reactivated after i took a shower and my skin was burning. i finally fell asleep two hours later, completely, physically, and mentally exhausted and yet by 8:00 in the am i was already back to the capital. and i continue to work for 15 consecutive days after. >> officer gonell added another evidentiary points in the case against donald trump. >> it was his supporters that he sent over to the capitol that day and he could've done a lot of things. one of t
. >> officer gonell believed that the officers that trump sent were going to kill him. >> i, to, was being crushed by the rioters. i could feel myself losing oxygen and recall thinking to myself, this is how i'm going to die, defending this entrance. >> it took hours for officer aquilino gonell to find the time to respond to all of the messages on his phone from family members wondering if he was still alive. arrived at home >> at nearly 4 am on january 7th. i had to...
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thank you. >> thank you very much for your riveting testimony, sergeant gonel.nize officer fanone to summarize his testimony. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and members of this committee. for inviting me to provide my eyewitness testimony of the violent assault on our nation's capitol on january 6, 2021. my name for those of you who don't know is michael fanone. and i'll i've been a sworn officer with the metropolitan police department in washington, d.c. for almost two decades, my law enforcement career actually began here in this building as a united states capitol police officer shortly after 9/11. in part because of the 2001 attack on our country by terrorists, i felt called to serve. as a capitol police officer, i was proud to protect this institution and dedicated members of congress and their staff who work hard each day to uphold our american democracy. i remain proud of the work of the united states capitol police and mpd officers who literally commit their lives to protecting the safety of each of you and all of us in this room in our nation's capitol. af
thank you. >> thank you very much for your riveting testimony, sergeant gonel.nize officer fanone to summarize his testimony. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and members of this committee. for inviting me to provide my eyewitness testimony of the violent assault on our nation's capitol on january 6, 2021. my name for those of you who don't know is michael fanone. and i'll i've been a sworn officer with the metropolitan police department in washington, d.c. for almost two decades, my law...
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i'd like to ask sergeant gonell.ot everyone knew that you were fighting in the hall on the lower west terrace on january 6th. can you tell me what happened in that hallway? while you were there, metropolitan police arrived to help you out. what difference did that make? >> sure, ma'am. before i start, by no means am i suggesting that we will go to his house. i apologize for my outburst. after we retreated to the lower west terrace entrance, it was rough, it was terrible. everything that was happening to us, it was simultaneously. we didn't have a lot of support. we had probably like 50 officers at most when we went back in. once we were there, we started saying to ourselves, they say this is the entrance they're going to try to breach. we're going to hold the line. we're going to do everything possible. without. even coordinating among ourselves, the few officers who were still carrying shields, we automatically assumed position in the front. some of the shields were taken, ripped apart from the officers' hands. some
i'd like to ask sergeant gonell.ot everyone knew that you were fighting in the hall on the lower west terrace on january 6th. can you tell me what happened in that hallway? while you were there, metropolitan police arrived to help you out. what difference did that make? >> sure, ma'am. before i start, by no means am i suggesting that we will go to his house. i apologize for my outburst. after we retreated to the lower west terrace entrance, it was rough, it was terrible. everything that...
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aquilino gonell spoke first.ing the insurrection, he was beaten with a flagpole and attacked with chemical spray. gonell is a dominican immigrant who served in the u.s. army in iraq. >> what we were subjected that day was like something from a medieval battle. we fought hand to hand, inch by inch, to prevent an invasion of the capitol by a violent mob intent on subverting our democratic process. my fellow officers and i were committed to not letting any rioters breached the capitol. -- breach the capitol. it was a prolonged and desperate struggle as rioters who attempted to breach the capitol said "tr ump sent us." "pick the right side." "we want trump." i heard officers screaming in agony and pain around me. i did not know at that time it was officer hodges. he is here today, to testify. i too was crushed by rioters. i could feel myself losing oxygen and thinking to myself, this is how i will die, defending this entrance. amy: testifying tuesday before the house select committee investigating the january 6 indir
aquilino gonell spoke first.ing the insurrection, he was beaten with a flagpole and attacked with chemical spray. gonell is a dominican immigrant who served in the u.s. army in iraq. >> what we were subjected that day was like something from a medieval battle. we fought hand to hand, inch by inch, to prevent an invasion of the capitol by a violent mob intent on subverting our democratic process. my fellow officers and i were committed to not letting any rioters breached the capitol. --...
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sergeant gonell said today that we need to get to the bottom of who brought these people here. has the fbi indicated they are investigating the people who might have been responsible for organizing the rally? >> absolutely. that's been a big question. surprisingly, there still isn't an answer to that question. it remains one of the biggest unsolved mysteries about the capitol riot. whose idea was it? did some group, was it the proud boys, the oath keepers, the three percenters, did they sit down and say after the rally, we're going to try to get inside the capitol and stop the vote count? was there such a plan? if so, was it just a few people and other people followed? was it something that just sort of organically developed as people began to descend upon the capitol. the feeling was let's go in. who knows, is the best answer to that question so far. there have been some people charged with conspiracy to go into the capitol or to do something on the 6th. but in terms of identifying the actual planners, that is still something that has yet to be answered. >> as this committee c
sergeant gonell said today that we need to get to the bottom of who brought these people here. has the fbi indicated they are investigating the people who might have been responsible for organizing the rally? >> absolutely. that's been a big question. surprisingly, there still isn't an answer to that question. it remains one of the biggest unsolved mysteries about the capitol riot. whose idea was it? did some group, was it the proud boys, the oath keepers, the three percenters, did they...
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. >> sergeant gonell is an immigrant from the dominican republican.sed his hand to take an oath to protect this country. >> on july 23, 1999, the day before my 24th birthday, i raised my hand and swore to protect the constitution of the united states. because this country gave me an opportunity to become anything that i wanted. at that time i had already started basic training with the army reserves. in fact i raised my hand several times in ceremonies to pledge my commitment to defend and protect the stay with us of the united states. when i joined the army reserves, when i was promoted to sergeant while in the army, when i was promoted during my naturalization ceremony, and my reenlistment in the army. when i joined the united states capitol police. and lastly, when i was promoted to sergeant three years ago. he have always taken my oath seriously. >> the trump mob, who donald trump sent to attack the capitol, believed that sergeant gonell had no right to be there. >> i was in the front line, and they -- apparently they saw through my mask, they saw
. >> sergeant gonell is an immigrant from the dominican republican.sed his hand to take an oath to protect this country. >> on july 23, 1999, the day before my 24th birthday, i raised my hand and swore to protect the constitution of the united states. because this country gave me an opportunity to become anything that i wanted. at that time i had already started basic training with the army reserves. in fact i raised my hand several times in ceremonies to pledge my commitment to...
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we're joined today by sergeant aguillino gonell of the united states capitol police. 15-year veteranof the capitol police, assigned to a first responder unit. before joining the capitol police sergeant gonell served eight years in the united states army and spent time in iraq where his base was under constant mortar and indirect fire by insurgents. we also are joined by officer michael fanone of the metropolitan police department in washington, did. c., he began his law enforcement career with the united states capitol police shortly after the terrorist attack of 9/11, for nearly 20 years officer fanone has served the citizens of the district of columbia and special force focusing on narcotics investigation and violent criminals. officer daniel hodges, a member of the civil disturbance area in the d.c. metropolitan police department, where his responsibilities include riot response. prior, he served six years in the 116th infantry regiment as an indirect fire. -- u.s. capitol police officer harry dunn is a 13-year veteran of the united states capitol police and a member of its first
we're joined today by sergeant aguillino gonell of the united states capitol police. 15-year veteranof the capitol police, assigned to a first responder unit. before joining the capitol police sergeant gonell served eight years in the united states army and spent time in iraq where his base was under constant mortar and indirect fire by insurgents. we also are joined by officer michael fanone of the metropolitan police department in washington, did. c., he began his law enforcement career with...
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manifestantes.desde washington, claudia uceda nos tiene el testimonio del sargento hispano "aquilino gonell", que aun lucha con los traumas fisicos y emocionales de aquel dia. el regalo de la libertad llegara en forma de decreto para cientos de presos mexicanos.el presidente andres manuel lopez obrador ordenara la liberacion de reclusos de avanzada edad y de aquellos que llevan aqos esperando una sentencia por ciertos delitos. paulina gomez nos dice cuando y quienes podrian acogerse a este beneficio penitenciario. el excardenal estadounidense theodore mccarrick, asalto sexalmente a un menor de 16 aqos durante una boda en massachusetts en 1974.esa es la nueva acusacion que penfrenta mccarrick, luego de que no prosperaran las denuncias de varios hombres que dicen haber sido abusados por el sacerdote en nueva york y nueva jersey cuando eran ninos.esos delitos ya habian prescrito segun las leyes estatales y no se pudo acusar a mccarry, quien fue expulsado del sacerdocio en 2019. los familiares de un hispano muerto presuntamente a tiros por agentes de la oficina del alguacil de los angeles prese
manifestantes.desde washington, claudia uceda nos tiene el testimonio del sargento hispano "aquilino gonell", que aun lucha con los traumas fisicos y emocionales de aquel dia. el regalo de la libertad llegara en forma de decreto para cientos de presos mexicanos.el presidente andres manuel lopez obrador ordenara la liberacion de reclusos de avanzada edad y de aquellos que llevan aqos esperando una sentencia por ciertos delitos. paulina gomez nos dice cuando y quienes podrian acogerse a...
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sergeant gonell sustained injury to both his and, his left shoulder, his left calf and his right foot on the course of the day affecting capital. at one point, he too was crushed by the rioters and can feel himself losing oxygen. he told the committee he remembers thinking, this is how i'm going to die. today, sergeant gonell finally coming home to this family at the end of that awful day. >> i arrived at home at nearly 4 am on january 7th. i had to push my wife away from me because she wanted to hug me. i told her, no. because of all the chemicals that my uniform had on. sorry. i couldn't sleep because the chemical reactivated after i took a shower and my skin was burning. i finally fell asleep two hours later, completely, physically, and mentally exhausted and yet by 8:00 in the am i was already back to the capital. and i continue to work for 15 consecutive days after. >> the other member of the capitol police testified today was harry dunn, he grew up in the suburbs of washington d.c., joined the capitol police after graduating from james madison university with a masters degree. o
sergeant gonell sustained injury to both his and, his left shoulder, his left calf and his right foot on the course of the day affecting capital. at one point, he too was crushed by the rioters and can feel himself losing oxygen. he told the committee he remembers thinking, this is how i'm going to die. today, sergeant gonell finally coming home to this family at the end of that awful day. >> i arrived at home at nearly 4 am on january 7th. i had to push my wife away from me because she...
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in the crypt, i encountered sergeant gonell who had been in the crowd of rioters on the west side of. i helped carry her to the area of the house majority leader's office where she was administered cpr. as the afternoon went on i was completely drained both physically and emotionally and in shock and total disbelief over what had happened. once the building was cleared, i went to the rotunda to recover with other officers and share experiences of what happened that afternoon. representative rodney davis was offering support and when he and i saw each other he came over and gave me a hug. i sat down on the bench with a friend of mine who was also a black capital police officer and i told him about the racial slurs that i endured and became very emotional and began yelling how the blank could something like this happen? is this america? i began sobbing. officers came over to console me. later on january 6, after orders of security had been restored in the capital, it was a hard working sacrifice of law enforcement. members took the floor of the house to speak out about what happened th
in the crypt, i encountered sergeant gonell who had been in the crowd of rioters on the west side of. i helped carry her to the area of the house majority leader's office where she was administered cpr. as the afternoon went on i was completely drained both physically and emotionally and in shock and total disbelief over what had happened. once the building was cleared, i went to the rotunda to recover with other officers and share experiences of what happened that afternoon. representative...
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they believe they might die and they were willing officer gonell, sergeant gonell saild, knew i might die, but that is something i just have to face in order to defend the capitol building. and so as elected officials, we all have to conduct ourselves in a way that is worthy of them and worthy of the republic that we have sworn the constitution that we have sworn to defend. >> you've said that some of your republican colleagues are actually saying one thing publicly and quite different things to you behind the scenes. what are they saying behind the scenes? >> you know, i think we've seen since january 6th certainly concern among, you know, a number of republicans that public actions could either, you know, bring political consequences or could bring, you know, real security threats. and so we've seen people who in private will say that they recognize and understand the necessity of the truth and the necessity of getting to the truth and are trying in public not to draw the wrath of the former president, frankly. >> minority leader kevin mccarthy said yesterday that the committee's a
they believe they might die and they were willing officer gonell, sergeant gonell saild, knew i might die, but that is something i just have to face in order to defend the capitol building. and so as elected officials, we all have to conduct ourselves in a way that is worthy of them and worthy of the republic that we have sworn the constitution that we have sworn to defend. >> you've said that some of your republican colleagues are actually saying one thing publicly and quite different...
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. >> the award for best use of an exaggeration in a supporting role, the winners echo in a gonell who thinks the pen is mightier than the sword. >> we had all these items and things that were thrown at us, and used to attack us, and those are weapon. if it is a pen. >> the word for plain news of politics when facts, fails the angle award goes to capitol police officer, harry dunn. >> i'm a law enforcement officer. i do my best to keep politics out of my job, but in this circumstance, i responded. well, i voted for bush -- joe biden, does my vote not count? am i nobody? >> we have more with him in a moment. that's not about politics at all. >> keep in mind, the people directed criticism here are some of the most privileged and cost to people on earth. donald trump is the perfect example, he is a thoroughly mediocre legacy case who herded -- inherited everything from his dad, he included millions of dollars -- a prep school foes and food era. they certainly never faced anything like those officers faced on january 6th. there was also the news about simone biles, the fourth time medalist
. >> the award for best use of an exaggeration in a supporting role, the winners echo in a gonell who thinks the pen is mightier than the sword. >> we had all these items and things that were thrown at us, and used to attack us, and those are weapon. if it is a pen. >> the word for plain news of politics when facts, fails the angle award goes to capitol police officer, harry dunn. >> i'm a law enforcement officer. i do my best to keep politics out of my job, but in this...
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just listen to tucker carlson mocking sergeant gonell. he's an iraq war vet wherein, by the way. >> watch as gonell compares what happened on january 6th to the iraq war. >> and we were not letting them in. they tried to convert us. they tried to persuade us to let them in. my time compared to iraq, totally different. this is our own citizens, people who we swore an oath to protect but here they are attacking us with the same flag that they claim to represent. it was bad. >> actually what happened on january 6th according to the video we do have does not look a lot like a rock. it's not fulugea. >> this from someone who has never served a day in uniform, someone who will never know the kind of bravery it takes to put your life on the line for democracy. and how about i show you another piece of video? how about you take a look at what it was really like for the police who fought to stop the mob of rioters who stormed the capitol, the mob that hunted lawmakers and the vice president in the halls. and i want you to listen to this guy, this
just listen to tucker carlson mocking sergeant gonell. he's an iraq war vet wherein, by the way. >> watch as gonell compares what happened on january 6th to the iraq war. >> and we were not letting them in. they tried to convert us. they tried to persuade us to let them in. my time compared to iraq, totally different. this is our own citizens, people who we swore an oath to protect but here they are attacking us with the same flag that they claim to represent. it was bad. >>...
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. >> the trump mob who donald trump sent to attack the capitol, believe that sergeant gonell have noee my skin color even with a mask. they said, you are not even american. regardless whether i was in the military, they don't know that. police yelling, them saying all these things to me -- when i had heard that, i wasn't even thinking about any racist stuff but, for me, i wasn't even thinking of it. i am there to stop them, regardless. i'm not thinking where they were yelling tons of my skin color and race i know i am an american. a soldier how police officer and taking that into account when i was defending all of you guys i didn't realize it. >> sergeant aquilino gonell gets tonight's last word. the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. >> good evening once again, i'm chris chanting in for brian williams. day 190 of the biden administration and there has been a major breakthrough tonight on a key biden agenda item. dissented voted to keep debate on a nearly one trillion billion dollar infrastructure deal with a vote of 67 to 32 exactly one week after it failed to pass. it marks
. >> the trump mob who donald trump sent to attack the capitol, believe that sergeant gonell have noee my skin color even with a mask. they said, you are not even american. regardless whether i was in the military, they don't know that. police yelling, them saying all these things to me -- when i had heard that, i wasn't even thinking about any racist stuff but, for me, i wasn't even thinking of it. i am there to stop them, regardless. i'm not thinking where they were yelling tons of my...
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metropolitan police officer michael fanone at one point getting up to comfort sergeant aquilino gonell, and then it was time for the officers to tell their stories. >> at some point during the fighting i was dragged from the line of officers and into the crowd. i heard someone scream "got one!" as i was swarmed by a violent mob, they ripped off my badge, they grabbed and stripped me of my radio, they seized ammunition that was secured to my body. they began to beat me with their fists and with what felt like hard metal objects. at one point i came face-to-face with an attacker who repeatedly lunged for me and attempted to remove my firearm. i heard chanting from some in the crowd, "get his gun" and "kill him with his own gun." i was aware enough to recognize i was at risk of being stripped of and killed with my own firearm. i was electrocuted. again and again and again. with a taser. >> i was effectively defenseless and gradually sustaining injury from the increasing pressure of the mob. directly in front of me, a man seized the opportunity of my vulnerability, grabbed the front of my
metropolitan police officer michael fanone at one point getting up to comfort sergeant aquilino gonell, and then it was time for the officers to tell their stories. >> at some point during the fighting i was dragged from the line of officers and into the crowd. i heard someone scream "got one!" as i was swarmed by a violent mob, they ripped off my badge, they grabbed and stripped me of my radio, they seized ammunition that was secured to my body. they began to beat me with their...
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gonel described what he and his fellow officers encountered. >> what we subjected that day is from a medieval battle. we fought hand to hand, inch by inch to prevent a overtaking of the capitol. >> and we're also following breaking news out of the biden administration. any minute now the cdc expected to announce must masking guidance for those fully vaccinated in areas with high covid-19 transmission rates. we're going to have a lot on that. we start with the pandemic and that breaking news. new mask guidance from the biden administration. now the delta variant is fueling the price in the nationwide. but some vaccinated americans are being advised to wear masks indoors in areas of the country with high covid transmission rates. according to multiple sources, a key point on what is driving this decision, "new data suggesting fully vaccinated individuals are not just contracting covid-19 but could also be carrying higher levels of the virus than previously understood and potentially able to infect others." as i mention, any moment now we hope to learn more from the cdc and the director
gonel described what he and his fellow officers encountered. >> what we subjected that day is from a medieval battle. we fought hand to hand, inch by inch to prevent a overtaking of the capitol. >> and we're also following breaking news out of the biden administration. any minute now the cdc expected to announce must masking guidance for those fully vaccinated in areas with high covid-19 transmission rates. we're going to have a lot on that. we start with the pandemic and that...
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his colleague, capitol police officer aquilino gonell also described how some riders saw the color ofn and told him he wasn't american. d.c. metro police officer daniel hodges recalled being dismayed to see that so many of the insurrectionists that they were carrying blue lives matter flags as they attacked enforcement. those flags, the one with the thin blue line across the black american flag started to pop up all around the country as part of the backlash to the growing black lives matter movement against racist policing in america. proponents of the so-called blue lives matter movement wave that flag in order to claim that they opposed coffers racers just does not because they support racism, because they support police. yet, on january six, when so many of those blue lives matter supporters were faced with the decision about whether it was more important to back the blue and support law and order, or joint with a violent, racist mob attacking law enforcement, they made it clear to the officers who were there that day what their real priorities were. as these officers now came for
his colleague, capitol police officer aquilino gonell also described how some riders saw the color ofn and told him he wasn't american. d.c. metro police officer daniel hodges recalled being dismayed to see that so many of the insurrectionists that they were carrying blue lives matter flags as they attacked enforcement. those flags, the one with the thin blue line across the black american flag started to pop up all around the country as part of the backlash to the growing black lives matter...
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thank you. >> thank you very much for your riveting testimony, sergeant gonell. i now recognize officer fanone to summarize his testimony. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and members of this committee, for inviting me to provide my eyewitness testimony of the violent assault on our nation's capitol on january 6, 2021. my name for those of you who don't know is michael fanone and while i've been a sworn officer with the metropolitan police department in washington, d.c. for almost two decades, my law enforcement career actually began here in this building as a united states capitol police officer shortly after 9/11. in part because of the 2001 attack on our country by terrorists i felt called to serve. as a capitol police officer i was proud to protect this constitution and dedicated members of congress and their staff who work hard each day to uphold our american democracy. i remain proud of the work of the united states capitol police and mpd officers who literally commit their lives to protecting the safety of each of you and all of us in this room in our nation's
thank you. >> thank you very much for your riveting testimony, sergeant gonell. i now recognize officer fanone to summarize his testimony. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and members of this committee, for inviting me to provide my eyewitness testimony of the violent assault on our nation's capitol on january 6, 2021. my name for those of you who don't know is michael fanone and while i've been a sworn officer with the metropolitan police department in washington, d.c. for almost two...
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. >> reporter: as video of what officers experienced rolled, capitol police sergeant aquilino gonell wiped tears from his eyes. d.c. officer michael fanone comforted the iraq war veteran. >> you hear former president trump say, "it was a loving crowd. there was a lot of love in the crowd." how does that make you feel? >> it's upsetting. it's a pathetic excuse for his behavior. i'm still recovering from those "hugs and kisses." it was his supporters that he sent them over to the capitol that day. >> reporter: capitol police officer harry dunn remains haunted by the racial slurs hurled at him like fists by rioters. >> one woman in a pink m.a.g.a. shirt yelled, "you hear that, guys? this ( bleep ) voted for joe biden." then the crowd, perhaps around 20 people, joined in screaming, "booo. ( bleep )." >> reporter: 165 of the 140 >> reporter: 165 of the 540 arrested so far are charged with assaulting, resisting or impeding police. the office lawmakers downplaying the attack. >> the indifference shown to my cleks is disgraceful. but nothing, truly nothing, has prepared me to address those >
. >> reporter: as video of what officers experienced rolled, capitol police sergeant aquilino gonell wiped tears from his eyes. d.c. officer michael fanone comforted the iraq war veteran. >> you hear former president trump say, "it was a loving crowd. there was a lot of love in the crowd." how does that make you feel? >> it's upsetting. it's a pathetic excuse for his behavior. i'm still recovering from those "hugs and kisses." it was his supporters that he...
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earlier, the inquiry heard from aquilino gonell from the us capitol police department, who was beatenle serving as an officer. he said he was more afraid for his life on that day than during his military deployment to iraq. the rioters called me traitor... ..a disgrace, and shouted that i, an army veteran and a police officer, should be executed. some of the rioters had the audacity to tell me it was nothing personal, that they would go through me, through us police officers, to achieve their goal, as they were breaking metal barriers to use as a weapon against us. sadly, as a result of that day, we lost officers — some really good officers. but we held the line to protect our democratic process, because the alternative would have been a disaster. we are not asking for medals, recognition. we simply wantjustice and accountability. liz cheney — one ofjust two republicans on the committee — asked sgt gonell what he made of donald trump's comments about the attack. when you hearformer president trump say, quote, "it was a loving crowd, there was a lot of love in the crowd," how does that
earlier, the inquiry heard from aquilino gonell from the us capitol police department, who was beatenle serving as an officer. he said he was more afraid for his life on that day than during his military deployment to iraq. the rioters called me traitor... ..a disgrace, and shouted that i, an army veteran and a police officer, should be executed. some of the rioters had the audacity to tell me it was nothing personal, that they would go through me, through us police officers, to achieve their...
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all eyes were trained on officers fanone, gonell, and harry dunn's, and officer hodges as they provided excruciating graphic details of what happened that day as they -- as the capital was invaded by hundreds of rioters. funneling described in graphic detail being beat with a metal rod, electoral shopped with a taser. shortly thereafter he suffered from a heart attack, traumatic brain injury, and ptsd. more importantly, all these officers sort of rounded up their experiences and said that what was most disheartening who are the people whose lives they saved now turned against them as funnel and said, they betrayed their oath really, in trying to downplay and minimize the severity of the events that happened on january 6th. in my opinion, those officers did accomplish their goals in really telling their stories with clarity and again, some really gripping detail about what just happened. >> jeremy, in many ways, we've heard some of these details before we had seen some similar videos before, but there was profound impact and seeing them all in a way that they were, and hearing those stor
all eyes were trained on officers fanone, gonell, and harry dunn's, and officer hodges as they provided excruciating graphic details of what happened that day as they -- as the capital was invaded by hundreds of rioters. funneling described in graphic detail being beat with a metal rod, electoral shopped with a taser. shortly thereafter he suffered from a heart attack, traumatic brain injury, and ptsd. more importantly, all these officers sort of rounded up their experiences and said that what...
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the winner, officer gonell who thinks -- >> where to begin? the people who claim blue lives matter, deciding the most important color here is maga red. everyone knows the expression, a hit dog will hog. they are haulers. they understand something both obvious and tragic for america including many conservative areas. a debate between criminal maga rioters and brave officers is not even close. which is why on this one the police gets the last word. >> i am thinking to myself this is how i am going to die. >> what i witnessed on the experience of january 6th, 2021 was unlike anything i have seen. >> another shouting you will die on your knee. >> there was an attack carried out on january 6th and a hitman sent them. >> i am joined by the former rnc chairman and michael jones and david korn. i walked through the recent history even it is a little depressing because it seems clear that the republican leadership in congress does not know how to play this and the media arm over at fox they seem to understand this is not something you can just peace ou
the winner, officer gonell who thinks -- >> where to begin? the people who claim blue lives matter, deciding the most important color here is maga red. everyone knows the expression, a hit dog will hog. they are haulers. they understand something both obvious and tragic for america including many conservative areas. a debate between criminal maga rioters and brave officers is not even close. which is why on this one the police gets the last word. >> i am thinking to myself this is...
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recognize sergeant gonell to summarize his testimony. >> good morning, everybody. >> good morning. >> chairman thompson, members -- members of the select committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify regarding the attack on the u.s. capitol on january 6th, 2021. it is with honor and heavy heart that i come before you to tell you my story. from a painful firsthand experience what happened that terrible day at the capitol.
recognize sergeant gonell to summarize his testimony. >> good morning, everybody. >> good morning. >> chairman thompson, members -- members of the select committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify regarding the attack on the u.s. capitol on january 6th, 2021. it is with honor and heavy heart that i come before you to tell you my story. from a painful firsthand experience what happened that terrible day at the capitol.
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there was sergeant agulino gonell who said the rioters actually told him it was nothing personal. >> the verbal assault and disrespect we endured from the rioters were bad enough. i was falsely accused of betraying my oath, of choosing my paycheck, of choosing my paycheck over my loyalty to the u.s. constitution. even as i defended the very democratic process that protected everyone in the hostile crowd. while i was working with my fellow officers to prevent the breach and restore order, the rioters called me traitor, a disgrace and shouted that i -- i an army veteran and a police officer should be executed. some of the rioters had the audacity to tell me there was nothing personal. >> it was personal, all right. if you don't want to take it from me, i want you to listen to officer harry dunn. and i'm going to warn you, tough to hear. >> one woman in a pink maga shirt yelled you hear that guys, this nigger voted for joe biden. then the crowd perhaps around 20 people joined in screaming, boo, fucking nigger. no one had ever, ever called me a nigger while wearing the uniform of a capit
there was sergeant agulino gonell who said the rioters actually told him it was nothing personal. >> the verbal assault and disrespect we endured from the rioters were bad enough. i was falsely accused of betraying my oath, of choosing my paycheck, of choosing my paycheck over my loyalty to the u.s. constitution. even as i defended the very democratic process that protected everyone in the hostile crowd. while i was working with my fellow officers to prevent the breach and restore order,...
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. >> sergeant gonell gets tonight's last word. "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts right now. >>> good evening once again. i'm chris jansing in for brian williams. day 190 of the biden administration. and there's been a major breakthrough tonight on a key biden agenda item. the senate voted to begin debate on a nearly $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package by a vote of 67-32, exactly one week after it failed to pass, a rare example of bipartisanship in washington. 17 republicans, including their leader, mitch mcconnell, joined all 50 democrats in advancing the bill. it's the first step in a series of votes toward final passage of the agreement. and as the country faces a surge of new covid-19 infections, the white house is expected to announce tomorrow that covid vaccinations will be required for all federal workers. those who refuse will have to undergo regular virus testing. today the cdc director posted this on social media. quote, covid-19 cases have increased over 300% nationally since june 19. the highest sprea
. >> sergeant gonell gets tonight's last word. "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts right now. >>> good evening once again. i'm chris jansing in for brian williams. day 190 of the biden administration. and there's been a major breakthrough tonight on a key biden agenda item. the senate voted to begin debate on a nearly $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package by a vote of 67-32, exactly one week after it failed to pass, a rare example of bipartisanship in...
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if you're not willing to give officer fanone or officer dunn or officer gonell the time of day and respects about how much you love law enforcement. >> ana navarro, thank you. >>> simone biles drops out of the team gymnastics finals, citing her mental health. five-time gold medalist nadia comaneci and two-time gold medalist bart conner are going to weigh in after this. >> i just felt like it would be a little better to take a back seat, work on my mindfulness. and i knew that the girls would do an absolutely great job, and i didn't want to risk the team a medal for kind of my screw-ups because they've worked way too hard for that. -hey. -hi. whoa, nice car. thanks, yeah. i actually got a great deal on it too, although my interest rate is awful. have you checked your credit? i got like a free score from some app or something like that. but lenders don't even use that score. creditrepair.com has a free credit snapshot that can show you exactly what's happening with your credit score. and killing my interest rates. well, great seats though. -thank you. -like really. just knowing your score wo
if you're not willing to give officer fanone or officer dunn or officer gonell the time of day and respects about how much you love law enforcement. >> ana navarro, thank you. >>> simone biles drops out of the team gymnastics finals, citing her mental health. five-time gold medalist nadia comaneci and two-time gold medalist bart conner are going to weigh in after this. >> i just felt like it would be a little better to take a back seat, work on my mindfulness. and i knew...
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. >> reporter: and officers harry dunn and aquilino gonell blasted the fop in a statementadequatel officers involved in the insurrection. adding you either stand with the officers or you stand with the terrorists. the organization did issue a statement on january 6 praising officers and condemning the lawlessness. in a new statement tuesday, the fop again reiterated its support for the officers who fought back against the capitol rioters adding that we'll be with them as they fwregrieve and recover. and fanone also asked them to tee announce republicans no voted against giving capitol police officers medals for their hair rowheroism and those who mischaracterized the shooting. >> and i asked him to publicly denounce any active tutduty dut retired law enforcement officer that participated in the insurrection. i've received no commitment as to any of those things. >> reporter: and the officers have gotten support from tom manger who sat down with cnn on his first day on the job. >> i know what the men and women of this agency went through. i know he the challenges that they faced. i also know
. >> reporter: and officers harry dunn and aquilino gonell blasted the fop in a statementadequatel officers involved in the insurrection. adding you either stand with the officers or you stand with the terrorists. the organization did issue a statement on january 6 praising officers and condemning the lawlessness. in a new statement tuesday, the fop again reiterated its support for the officers who fought back against the capitol rioters adding that we'll be with them as they fwregrieve...
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like sergeant gonell who was the first in his family to graduate college. he joined the capitol police after serving in the army to iraq. sergeant donel sustained injuries to both his hands, his left shoulder, his left kafl and right foot in the course of the day defending the capitol. at one point he too was crushed by rioters and could feel himself losing oxygen. he told the committee members he remembers thinking this is how i'm going to die. today he describes the emotional and physical anguish he felt finally coming home to his family at the end of that awful day. >> i arrived home at nearly 4:00 a.m. on january 7th. i had to push my wife away from me because she wanted to hug me. and i told her no because of all the chemical my uniform had on. i couldn't sleep because the chemical reactivated after i took a shower and my skin was burning. i finally fell asleep two hours later completely physically and mentally exhausted. yet by 8:00 a.m. i was already back on my way back to the capitol. and i continued to work for 15 consecutive days until after the i
like sergeant gonell who was the first in his family to graduate college. he joined the capitol police after serving in the army to iraq. sergeant donel sustained injuries to both his hands, his left shoulder, his left kafl and right foot in the course of the day defending the capitol. at one point he too was crushed by rioters and could feel himself losing oxygen. he told the committee members he remembers thinking this is how i'm going to die. today he describes the emotional and physical...
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metro police officers michael fanone and daniel hodges and haley dunn and sergeant aquilino gonell talk about their struggles to defend the capitol, motivating the newly named capitol chief of police to come out of retirement. >> if you would have asked me on january 5th, do you want to be a police chief again, i would have said, no, i'm fine. i'm enjoying retirement. the events of january 6th changed that. >> reporter: one new member, adam kinzinger tapped by nancy pelosi joining seven democrats and one other republican, liz cheney. she will be giving opening remarks along with the chair, bennie thompson, for this hearing that starts in just about 30 minutes. we are told there will be new video of the capitol riots that the public has not seen before. marcus? >> certainly capturing the attention for a lot of people. tracie potts this morning in washington, thank you. you can watch the hearing live on nbclx, channel 185 or 11-5 over the air. that starts around 6:30 this morning. >>> developing right now oakland pope lease still saying little about a strong-armed robbery targeting long t
metro police officers michael fanone and daniel hodges and haley dunn and sergeant aquilino gonell talk about their struggles to defend the capitol, motivating the newly named capitol chief of police to come out of retirement. >> if you would have asked me on january 5th, do you want to be a police chief again, i would have said, no, i'm fine. i'm enjoying retirement. the events of january 6th changed that. >> reporter: one new member, adam kinzinger tapped by nancy pelosi joining...
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. >> reliving it cannot have been that much easier for capitol police sergeant aquilino gonell, d.c. metro police officer daniel hodges and michael fanone, and capitol police officer harry dunn. we invited congressman clyde and senator johnson to come on the program tonight. both declined. congresswoman stephanie murphy accepted. she's a democratic member of the committee and like everyone in that room owes a lot to the witnesses today. >> you know, i have two young children. i have a 10-year-old son and a 7-year-old daughter. they're the light of my life. and the reason i was able to hug them again was because of the courage that you and your fellow officers showed that day. >> congresswoman murphy joins us now. congresswoman, just hearing that again after surviving the attack in the first place and hearing the officers recount their stories in person earlier today, i mean, does it make the whitewashing of january 6th by some of your republican colleagues even more sickening to contemplate and difficult to explain? >> it's good to be with you tonight, anderson. and i think when you
. >> reliving it cannot have been that much easier for capitol police sergeant aquilino gonell, d.c. metro police officer daniel hodges and michael fanone, and capitol police officer harry dunn. we invited congressman clyde and senator johnson to come on the program tonight. both declined. congresswoman stephanie murphy accepted. she's a democratic member of the committee and like everyone in that room owes a lot to the witnesses today. >> you know, i have two young children. i have...
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. >> reporter: daniel hodges and michael fanone and harry dunn and aquilino gonell all taking exception to those whitewashing the tragic events of that day. >> i feel like i went to hell and back to protect them and the people in this room but too many now are telling me that hell doesn't exist or that hell actually wasn't that bad. the indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful. >> reporter: detailing the brutal injuries they suffered and the struggles they continue to deal with nearly seven months after the attack. >> directly in front of me a man seized the opportunity of my vulnerability, grabbed the front of my gas mask and used if to beat my head against the door, he pulled it off my head and the straps straining my neck. he never uttered any words i recognized but opted for gutter ral screams. i remember him foaming they mouth. >> mincing no words about who was responsible. >> when you think about that and share with us the vivid memory of the violence that day, and then you hear former president trump say, quote, it was a loving crowd, there was a lot of love in the crow
. >> reporter: daniel hodges and michael fanone and harry dunn and aquilino gonell all taking exception to those whitewashing the tragic events of that day. >> i feel like i went to hell and back to protect them and the people in this room but too many now are telling me that hell doesn't exist or that hell actually wasn't that bad. the indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful. >> reporter: detailing the brutal injuries they suffered and the struggles they continue...
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reporter: an attorney for two of the officer who's testified this week, officers harry dunn and aquilino gonell echoed fanone's sentiments blasting the fop in a statement for not adequately supporting the officers involved in the insurrection, adding, there should be nothing to debate on these points. you either stand with the officers or you stand with the terrorists. the organization did issue a statement on january 6th praising officers and condemning the lawlessness. in a new statement tuesday, the fop again reiterated its support for the officers who fought back against the capitol rioters, adding, we will be with them as they grieve and recover however long that may take. other requests fanone said he made to the fop president included denouncing republicans who voted against giving capitol police officers medals for their heroism on january 6th and those he believes mischaracterized the shooting of one of the insurrectionists. >> and finally i asked him to publicly denounce any active duty or retired law enforcement officer that participated in an insurrection at the capitol. i have rece
reporter: an attorney for two of the officer who's testified this week, officers harry dunn and aquilino gonell echoed fanone's sentiments blasting the fop in a statement for not adequately supporting the officers involved in the insurrection, adding, there should be nothing to debate on these points. you either stand with the officers or you stand with the terrorists. the organization did issue a statement on january 6th praising officers and condemning the lawlessness. in a new statement...
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. >> thank you very much for your riveting testimony, sergeant gonell. i recognize officer fanone to summarize his testimony. >> thank you, mr. chairman and members of this committee for inviting me to provide my eyewitness testimony of the violent assault on our nation's capitol on january 6th, 2021. my name for those of you who don't know is michael fanone. while i've been a sworn officer with the metropolitan police department in washington, d.c., for almost two decades, my law enforcement career actually began here in this building as united states capitol police officer shortly after 9/11. in part because of the 2001 attack on our country by terrorists, i felt called to serve. as a capitol police officer, i was proud to protect this institution and dedicated members of congress and their staff who work hard each day to uphold our american democracy. i remain proud of the work of the united states capitol police, and mpd officers who literally commit their lives to protecting the safety of each of you and all of us in this room, in our nation's capit
. >> thank you very much for your riveting testimony, sergeant gonell. i recognize officer fanone to summarize his testimony. >> thank you, mr. chairman and members of this committee for inviting me to provide my eyewitness testimony of the violent assault on our nation's capitol on january 6th, 2021. my name for those of you who don't know is michael fanone. while i've been a sworn officer with the metropolitan police department in washington, d.c., for almost two decades, my law...
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ingraham made fun of those officers by awarding them fake prizes, saying among other things that officer gonell exaggerated the threat he faced that day. then there's republican congressman jim banks who was rejected from the committee when he tried to undermine its mission. he's now smearing the officers who testified, effectively making up rumors to insult their intelligence. >> everything that you saw today was carefully scripted by speaker pelosi and her staff. even the statements that these police officers read. you could tell at times they didn't write the statements, they were merely reading them as they stumbled over some of the words that they weren't familiar with. >> you guys heard that, right? he's attacking the officers who helped to save his life. and that's the guy kevin mccarthy wanted on this committee. banks is not only insulting the officers' ability to think for themselves, but unsurprisingly he came equipped with zero evidence to support his baseless allegation. in a statement speaker pelosi's office called his claim despicable, saying that neither the speaker nor her staff
ingraham made fun of those officers by awarding them fake prizes, saying among other things that officer gonell exaggerated the threat he faced that day. then there's republican congressman jim banks who was rejected from the committee when he tried to undermine its mission. he's now smearing the officers who testified, effectively making up rumors to insult their intelligence. >> everything that you saw today was carefully scripted by speaker pelosi and her staff. even the statements...