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gonell: i was stationed by the supreme side court area, at the staging ground. in the moment that we heard the first call of the officer in distress, we had an officer injured, and then my squad, almost everybody who is in the area, we responded immediately to the west side. we were there to confront the crowd. by the time we got there, there were a lot of officers that were already fighting for their lives because they were overwhelmed and physically being attacked from multiple sides. so the magnitude of what we encountered was something like i never experienced myself, not even when i was overseas in combat. >> one thing i have been struck by looking at so much video that day is how the capitol police were not the aggressors at the beginning, it was the protesters pushing over the barriers. i did not see officers reach for their weapons or pull their weapons. at one point in time some of those coming at you told you they were armed, they had guns. looking back at that a year later, how much of the first wave of that conflict was animated and was set by what y
gonell: i was stationed by the supreme side court area, at the staging ground. in the moment that we heard the first call of the officer in distress, we had an officer injured, and then my squad, almost everybody who is in the area, we responded immediately to the west side. we were there to confront the crowd. by the time we got there, there were a lot of officers that were already fighting for their lives because they were overwhelmed and physically being attacked from multiple sides. so the...
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gonell: si.l paÍs, la democracia enfrentÓ una de las pruebas mÁs difÍciles. esa misma noche, congresistas y senadores republicanos condenaron el hecho. [habla en inglÉs] calderon: el ex vicepresidente mike pence, quien presidÍa la sesiÓn en el congreso, tambiÉn fue enfÁtico. [habla en inglÉs] calderon: el sargento gonell asegura que el ex vicepresidente mike pence minimizÓ los hechos al referirse meses despuÉs al ataque simplemente como un trÁgico dÍa en enero. [habla en inglÉs] gonell: principalmente a Él lo estaban buscando. gritaban que lo iban a ahorcar. cuando lo querÍan ahorcar delante de su hija, delante de su esposa. y nosotros, la policÍa, le dimos suficiente tiempo para que se escapara. y hoy en dÍa nos dice “no fue tan grave. no fue lo que pasÓ.” calderon: ¿cÓmo le explica a su hijo? ¿cÓmo se lo explica a un niÑo de 10 aÑos? gonell: hace como un mes me decidÍ de hablarle y explicarle un poco y la manera que se lo dije fue “cuando tÚ seas grande vas a escuchar ciertas cosas. quizÁs me v
gonell: si.l paÍs, la democracia enfrentÓ una de las pruebas mÁs difÍciles. esa misma noche, congresistas y senadores republicanos condenaron el hecho. [habla en inglÉs] calderon: el ex vicepresidente mike pence, quien presidÍa la sesiÓn en el congreso, tambiÉn fue enfÁtico. [habla en inglÉs] calderon: el sargento gonell asegura que el ex vicepresidente mike pence minimizÓ los hechos al referirse meses despuÉs al ataque simplemente como un trÁgico dÍa en enero. [habla en inglÉs]...
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gonell: sgt. gonell: before that, i don't think she understood the implication that me coming back to work also insured her that i was providing safety not only for the country for her and my son and their future by continuing to keep the system that we have. january 6 was still an attempted coup and god knows what would have happened if we didn't have the systems we had in place and her future the way i thought about it. mr. harvin: you are now back, not every day. you will be again shoulder to shoulder with officers. each affected individually on their own way. can you talk about the shared experience between your colleagues and the impact that it has had on you all? is there something we should take away from this, where you are one year later? >> it is hard to put into words, because you have a lot of different angles. mental, physical, and the work environment where you come to work and you see the same people that i risk life to give them the chance to go to a secure area and not be harmed.
gonell: sgt. gonell: before that, i don't think she understood the implication that me coming back to work also insured her that i was providing safety not only for the country for her and my son and their future by continuing to keep the system that we have. january 6 was still an attempted coup and god knows what would have happened if we didn't have the systems we had in place and her future the way i thought about it. mr. harvin: you are now back, not every day. you will be again shoulder...
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officer harry dunn andergeant aquilino gonell join me now.nk you both so much for protecting the capitol, me personally and thank you for joining us now. i want to start first off with that op-ed. you had strong words in that. one sentence you wrote was this -- you wrote, it will not be enough to identify and punish only those who physically attacked the capitol and tried to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power. those are strong words. sergeant gonell, who do you mean there and what do you want to happen in terms of that accountability? >> oh, it's a lot of people who are involved with what transpired january 6th, including some of those that even after we put our bodies at injure and risk and even death like officer sicknick, they continue to play down this horrific event of january 6th. it's mind boggling what they do, trying to downplay everything. >> reporter: it sounds like you're talking about politicians, is that right? >> yes, elected officials that, on january 6th and january 7, they all knew where to put the blame and point the fi
officer harry dunn andergeant aquilino gonell join me now.nk you both so much for protecting the capitol, me personally and thank you for joining us now. i want to start first off with that op-ed. you had strong words in that. one sentence you wrote was this -- you wrote, it will not be enough to identify and punish only those who physically attacked the capitol and tried to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power. those are strong words. sergeant gonell, who do you mean there and what do you...
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gonell: thank you, happy new year to everybody. >> i'm aaron davis, investigative reporter at the post, joining me to continue the conversation about the impacts of january 6 is the senior policy researcher at the rand corporation. last year he was the chief of homeland security intelligence, the government of the district of colombia where he oversaw the capital area ndc's intelligence connection effort. welcome back to washington post live. we have spoken about this, your vantage point on and before january 6 was unique. your team piece together a broader landscape of intelligence before the sixth, and that led you to conclude if it really was a danger of extreme violence. your office was not in the mainstream of law enforcement discussions about planning for that day. so years passed and i want to start with a candid question. is there anything you wish you had done differently with the intelligence with what you know and what you believe the day leading up to january 6? >> i struggled with that over the last year, and i actually struggled through the last 15 minutes with the interv
gonell: thank you, happy new year to everybody. >> i'm aaron davis, investigative reporter at the post, joining me to continue the conversation about the impacts of january 6 is the senior policy researcher at the rand corporation. last year he was the chief of homeland security intelligence, the government of the district of colombia where he oversaw the capital area ndc's intelligence connection effort. welcome back to washington post live. we have spoken about this, your vantage point...
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officer harry dunn and sergeant aquilino gonell join me now.protecting the capitol, personality, and thank you for joining us now. i want to start the fact op-ed. he had strong words. one sentence, you wrote, it will not enough to identify and punish those who physically attack the capitol and tried to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power. strong words. sergeant, what do you mean and what do you want to happen in terms of the accountability? >> it is a lot of people who were involved with what transpired on january 6 including some of the officials that even after we put our bodies at risk of injuries and even death, they continue to downplay this tragic, horrific event of january 6. by trying to downplay everything -- lisa: sounds like you are talking politicians trying to downplay what happened. >> they all knew where to put the blame on january 7 and pointed the finger. they all knew that the president for almost three hours did not do his job. it pains me that 16 blocks away, he was watching it on tv, the horrific images that were coming
officer harry dunn and sergeant aquilino gonell join me now.protecting the capitol, personality, and thank you for joining us now. i want to start the fact op-ed. he had strong words. one sentence, you wrote, it will not enough to identify and punish those who physically attack the capitol and tried to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power. strong words. sergeant, what do you mean and what do you want to happen in terms of the accountability? >> it is a lot of people who were involved...
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gonell: thank you for having me. [indiscernible] i'm back at work. this whole past year has been very difficult, challenging. it. the amount of physical therapy has been painful. mental health sessions trying to help me cope with some of the moments that i endure, they still traumatized me and others. it is difficult. not only for myself going through, my whole family and relatives, they are also going through them. it is been challenging and difficult for everybody else. when i returned to the capital november 3, i hesitated before going in. i thought it was going to be gut wrenching to even take the first step out of my car to try to go in. when you go in, you have a moment of relief that you see your colleagues or coworkers as well. it doesn't take away the trauma and everything that happened. anything could trigger you. the sounds of war or just doing your job. it comes in waves. it is difficult. >> part of the importance of an anniversary is to not gloss over what happened and to learn from the events of last year. i would like to ask you if you
gonell: thank you for having me. [indiscernible] i'm back at work. this whole past year has been very difficult, challenging. it. the amount of physical therapy has been painful. mental health sessions trying to help me cope with some of the moments that i endure, they still traumatized me and others. it is difficult. not only for myself going through, my whole family and relatives, they are also going through them. it is been challenging and difficult for everybody else. when i returned to the...
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el sargento aquilino gonell, le hizo frente a la turba que asaltÓ el capitolio hace un aÑo. >> sentÍ
el sargento aquilino gonell, le hizo frente a la turba que asaltÓ el capitolio hace un aÑo. >> sentÍ
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..una de las cosas que mas afecta al sargento gonell, y lo digo porque cada que ilia: una de las cosasejor. la magia te llama... a una celebración que lleva 50 años creándose. siente la magia dondequiera. comparte la maravilla de nuevas y espectaculares vistas... ♪ ...y la luz que te rodea. ♪ ve los mundos que adoras, brillar como nunca antes. acompáñanos a la celebración del 50 aniversario de walt disney world. algunos de los detenidos tras el asalto al capitolio eran felix: algunos detenidos tras el "asalto al capitolio" eran militantes del grupo de extrema derecha que surgiÓ al 2016. ilia: se hablÓ con un miembro del grupo, cuÉntanos quÉ te dejo. maite: fue militar como partidario del presidente donald trump en 2020, insiste que no cometiÓ ningÚn delito, esto fue lo que me dijo. ver cÓmo llegaste a estar ahÍ? >> donald trump estaba hablando ese dÍa. reportera: grabaciÓn y veo si los —— grabaste vÍdeos y los montaste a las redes sociales,. no puedes parar a 1 millÓn nosotros, tÚ dijiste eso? >> es correcto, no fue con la intenciÓn de parar lo que sucedÍa, reportera: pero la respondes
..una de las cosas que mas afecta al sargento gonell, y lo digo porque cada que ilia: una de las cosasejor. la magia te llama... a una celebración que lleva 50 años creándose. siente la magia dondequiera. comparte la maravilla de nuevas y espectaculares vistas... ♪ ...y la luz que te rodea. ♪ ve los mundos que adoras, brillar como nunca antes. acompáñanos a la celebración del 50 aniversario de walt disney world. algunos de los detenidos tras el asalto al capitolio eran felix: algunos...
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. >> sergeant gonell, you were beaten with a flag pole. you had chemicals sprayed at you. so much of it that it soaked your clothes right through to your skin. and you've said there were moments when you actually thought you were going to die. >> yes. i struggled, because i was getting pulled. i didn't want to get pulled into the crowd. they were pulling me by my leg, by my shield, by my shoulder strap, and we don't know what those people had in those bags. there's nothing i could do, because i couldn't even move my arms. i thought to myself that i wouldn't make it out of there alive. >> you thought your life was in greater danger in those moments than during your entire deployment in iraq? >> yes, sir. >> what were they saying to you? >> what were they not saying? >> traitor. >> traitor. join us. you're breaking your oath. >> some of them were showing badges. >> that happened with me. in the moment, like -- you know, like, what the hell, a badge? >> i did see people with military paraphernalia. veterans, army for trump, veteran for trump. >> i know you finally got home, 4
. >> sergeant gonell, you were beaten with a flag pole. you had chemicals sprayed at you. so much of it that it soaked your clothes right through to your skin. and you've said there were moments when you actually thought you were going to die. >> yes. i struggled, because i was getting pulled. i didn't want to get pulled into the crowd. they were pulling me by my leg, by my shield, by my shoulder strap, and we don't know what those people had in those bags. there's nothing i could...
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gonell: thank you for having me. [indiscernible] i'm back at work.s whole past year has been very difficult, challenging. it. the amount of physical therapy has been painful. mental health sessions trying to help me cope with some of the moments that i endure, they still traumatized me and others. it is difficult. not only for myself going through, my whole family and relatives, they are also going through them. it is been challenging and difficult for everybody else. when i returned to the capital november 3, i hesitated before going in. i thought it was going to be gut wrenching to even take the first step out of my car to try to go in. when you go in, you have a moment of relief that you see your colleagues or coworkers as well. it doesn't take away the trauma and everything that happened. anything could trigger you. the sounds of war or just doing your job. it comes in waves. it is difficult. >> part of the importance of an anniversary is to not gloss over what happened and to learn from the events of last year. i would like to ask you if you cou
gonell: thank you for having me. [indiscernible] i'm back at work.s whole past year has been very difficult, challenging. it. the amount of physical therapy has been painful. mental health sessions trying to help me cope with some of the moments that i endure, they still traumatized me and others. it is difficult. not only for myself going through, my whole family and relatives, they are also going through them. it is been challenging and difficult for everybody else. when i returned to the...
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. >> reporter: sergeant aquillino gonell is still recovering from his injuries after he was almost crushedath battling the angry mob. >> if we don't put a deterrent and hold people accountable for what they did, this will be a recurring issue. >> reporter: congress has passed millions in new funding to bolster the capitol police, but ohio democrat, tim ryan, who chairs a committee with oversight of the force, says there's more work to do. >> you know, we've taken some positive steps in the right direction, but there's a hell of a long way for us to go. >> reporter: in addition to the events planned here at the capitol to mark the anniversary on thursday, former president trump had planned a press conference in florida. tonight, he canceled it. norah. >> o'donnell: all right, kris van cleave, thank you. former theranos c.e.o. elizabeth holmes is out on bond tonight, awaiting sentencing, after being found guilty on four of 11 fraud charges. she faces 20 years for each of the four convictions. cbs' anna werner reports on the fallout for silicon valley. >> reporter: elizabeth holmes seemed the
. >> reporter: sergeant aquillino gonell is still recovering from his injuries after he was almost crushedath battling the angry mob. >> if we don't put a deterrent and hold people accountable for what they did, this will be a recurring issue. >> reporter: congress has passed millions in new funding to bolster the capitol police, but ohio democrat, tim ryan, who chairs a committee with oversight of the force, says there's more work to do. >> you know, we've taken some...
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. >> reporter: sergeant aquilino gonell is still recovering from his injuries after he was almost crushed to death battling the angry mob. >> we don't put a deterrent, hold people accountable for what they did this, will be a recurring issue. >> reporter: congress has passed millions in new funding to bolster the capitol police, but ohio democrat tim ryan who chairs a committee with oversight of the force says there is more work to do. >> we've taken some positive steps in the right direction, but there is a hell of a long way for us to go. >> reporter: in addition to the events planned here at the capitol to mark the anniversary on thursday, former president trump had planned a press conference in florida. tonight he canceled it. norah? >> all right. kris van cleave, thank you. the "cbs overnight news" will be right back. (announcer) if you're an american age 50 to 85, and you're counting on social security to help your family with your final expenses, this news may surprise you. the social security death benefit is capped at just $255 and not everyone is entitled to claim it. today, the
. >> reporter: sergeant aquilino gonell is still recovering from his injuries after he was almost crushed to death battling the angry mob. >> we don't put a deterrent, hold people accountable for what they did this, will be a recurring issue. >> reporter: congress has passed millions in new funding to bolster the capitol police, but ohio democrat tim ryan who chairs a committee with oversight of the force says there is more work to do. >> we've taken some positive steps...
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. >> reporter: gonell was out for months because of injuries sustained during the insurrection and still grapples with trauma from that day. >> when i returned to the capitol on november 3rd, i hesitated before going in, to be ho honest. i thought it was going to be gut wrenching to even take the first step out of my car. >> reporter: manger says he's aware of several events planned for thursday but there's no intelligence that indicates there will be any problems. now the department of homeland security chief also said today he is not aware of any specific credible threats on the anniversary of the insurrection. jake? >> paula reid, thanks so much. >>> let's discuss with former fbi senior intelligence adviser phil mudd and terrence gainer, former chief of the u.s. capitol police chief. let me start with you. the current capitol police chief says the force is tronger and better prepared today than it was before the attack a year ago. do you agree? >> absolutely, i agree. i know tom very well. i know the work he's been doing. jake, i've been talking to officers at all levels and they agre
. >> reporter: gonell was out for months because of injuries sustained during the insurrection and still grapples with trauma from that day. >> when i returned to the capitol on november 3rd, i hesitated before going in, to be ho honest. i thought it was going to be gut wrenching to even take the first step out of my car. >> reporter: manger says he's aware of several events planned for thursday but there's no intelligence that indicates there will be any problems. now the...
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harry dunn and akolino gonel say only when the truth is made public and the people responsible for the atrocity of january 6th are held to account can true healing begin. next, our interview with officer harry dunn on life a year later and the work that still needs to be done. woman: i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. with skyrizi, 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months after just two doses. skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, such as fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches, or coughs or if you plan to or recently received a vaccine. ♪ nothing is everything. ♪ woman: talk to your dermatologist about skyrizi. learn how abbvie could help you save. who's on it with jardiance? woman: talk to your dermatologist about skyrizi. we're 25 million prescriptions strong. we're managing type 2 diabetes... ...and heart risk. we're working up a sweat before coffee. and saying,
harry dunn and akolino gonel say only when the truth is made public and the people responsible for the atrocity of january 6th are held to account can true healing begin. next, our interview with officer harry dunn on life a year later and the work that still needs to be done. woman: i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. with skyrizi, 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months after just two doses. skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower...
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let me just play what officer gonell said. >> hold people who are responsible accountable, includingfficials because if they don't do that, this might be a recurring issue every four years. >> thus far, michael, right, it's -- it's the people who were actually there rioting, the insurrectionists being charged and 300 of them, they can't even find. but -- but none of the politicians who said the words and the lie that caused all those individuals to be there. do you have any hope that the right people will be held accountable? >> um, yeah, i mean, my experience as a law enforcement officer and as american, i think that, um, unfortunately, many of these politicians are going to get away by hiding behind, you know, political speak and, um, the idea that, you know, that their words were -- were not intentional. so, no, i don't believe that there is going to be accountability for those individuals who were involved in the planning and preparation for that day. and also, those whose inciteful rhetoric resulted in the insurrection at the capitol. >> so, i know that you -- you have talked ab
let me just play what officer gonell said. >> hold people who are responsible accountable, includingfficials because if they don't do that, this might be a recurring issue every four years. >> thus far, michael, right, it's -- it's the people who were actually there rioting, the insurrectionists being charged and 300 of them, they can't even find. but -- but none of the politicians who said the words and the lie that caused all those individuals to be there. do you have any hope...
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republican party in my lifetime, but -- and i felt this way watching officers dunn and fanone and gonellent about attacks against sort of partisans who are in politics and attacks against people who are sort of deep inside our state health agencies trying to get out the guidance and the evolving science during a pandemic. how do you try to re-erect guardrails that have just been demolished by this republican party? >> yeah, i don't know. i mean, it's hard to know how you put that genie back in the bottle. i think that clint is right in saying that the potential and the opportunity for actual violence, for actual harm is right there. and clearly, we saw that on january 6th. but in the case of dr. fauci, he's been a career public servant. he's in his 80s. he has done nothing but serve and protect the public health of americans and people around the world. and telling the truth about this pandemic and what we need to do, and so it really is so disheartening, and you could actually hear the emotion in dr. fauci's voice when he talked about the threats to not just himself but to his family an
republican party in my lifetime, but -- and i felt this way watching officers dunn and fanone and gonellent about attacks against sort of partisans who are in politics and attacks against people who are sort of deep inside our state health agencies trying to get out the guidance and the evolving science during a pandemic. how do you try to re-erect guardrails that have just been demolished by this republican party? >> yeah, i don't know. i mean, it's hard to know how you put that genie...
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. >> sergeant gonell, you're still not back to work full-time because of your extensive injuries.me, officer fanon took your place in the capitol doorway so you could get water and reinforcements. do you sometimes think of what might have happened if he had not been there? >> yes, i definitely -- i told him this morning when i saw him that -- i didn't tell him that before, that at that time, i didn't know that was him relieving me, to go back for a bathroom break. and by the time i went to the bathroom and came back out, he was already out, being dragged. so i feel guilty sometimes that, had i stayed there, besides my own injuries, i would have gone through whatever he went through. so it's tough for me. a lot of people continue to say that i self-inflicted my injuries. for, like -- come on, i wanted to get hurt that day? that's very cynical of them to mention that -- >> disgusting for anybody to say anything like that. >> definitely. >> officer hodges, rioters attacked you with your own weapon, some tried to gouge out your eye. you were called a traitor. i mean, what is that like
. >> sergeant gonell, you're still not back to work full-time because of your extensive injuries.me, officer fanon took your place in the capitol doorway so you could get water and reinforcements. do you sometimes think of what might have happened if he had not been there? >> yes, i definitely -- i told him this morning when i saw him that -- i didn't tell him that before, that at that time, i didn't know that was him relieving me, to go back for a bathroom break. and by the time i...