i mean, when i gave my at gonville when i gave my talk at gonville and the week before, helen and caiusven a talk in the same the same college. same room in the same college. there banging there were people banging drums and all sorts of stuff. they had to in because and all sorts of stuff. they had to were in because and all sorts of stuff. they had to were terrifiedin because and all sorts of stuff. they had to were terrified of 3ecause and all sorts of stuff. they had to were terrified of being e they were terrified of being seen by their other student, you know, peers being demonised know, peers and being demonised as we've had as a result. and we've had studies that staff who studies saying that staff who are right leaning censor their own this is absolutely own opinions. this is absolutely not what a university is about, is i mean, it can't be like is it? i mean, it can't be like this. do we change the this. how do we change the culture because can't culture then? because you can't change self—censorship by force. you just you have to kind of just encourage a more what encourage a