a few weeks ago, gonzaga university, which is a catholic university, ruled that the knights of columbus were not welcome as a student group on their campus because it is a whole fleet -- a holy catholic organization. there was such a public outcry that the president of the school review this decision and overturned it. but it was the vice president of the school who had made the original position. what that says to me is that the attitude and the belief that religion should be driven from the public sphere has become so widespread in this country that even schools that purport to be religious schools have fallen into it. the question that we are faced with at this moment -- the persecution of any sort doesn't begin by killing large roots of people, by singling them out and killing them. you don't start by lynching. you don't start by programs. you start by bashing. you start by hate speech. you start with sibling out a group of people based on a certain thing. in this case, the religious faith. and limiting what they may or may not do, what they may or may not say. jennifer gave you som

a few weeks ago, another story, gonzaga university -- which is a catholic university -- ruled that the knights of columbus were not welcome as a student group on their campus because it's a holy catholic organization. there was such a public outcry that the president of the school reviewed this decision and overturned it, but it was a vice president of the school who had made the original, taken the original position. what that says to me is that the attitude and the belief that religious should be driven from the public sphere has become so widespread in this country that even schools that purport to be religious schools have fallen into it. the question that we are faced with at this moment persecution of any sort, let me back up here. the persecution of any sort does not begin whole cloth. you don't start out by going out and killing large groups of people, singling them out and killing them. you don't start with lynchings. you don't start with to groms. you start with bashing. you start with hate speech. you start with singling a group of people out based on a certain thing. in thi