mark noguchi, of mission, known by some as the gooch. he's second generation japanese. the lady. he's first generation vietnamese-american. or would that be vietnamese-hawaiian? as you'll see, it gets complicated. >> mark: i actually cooked on the east coast for three years and people would always be like, "oh, you're from hawaii, you're hawaiian!" and i was like, "no, no, no, no. i'm second generation japanese." "no, no but you're from hawaii that makes you hawaiian." and it was like, "no." and then what i realize is like here in hawaii we identify ourselves ethnically versus geographically. like, there's no way that he and i would call ourselves hawaiian. we'd get our ass kicked. by a hawaiian. >> anthony: how many generations does it take? i mean, who qualifies as hawaiian in your view? >> mark: to me a hawaiian is a kanaka maoli, is a native of the land. it's in your blood, your koko. you come from a lineage of native hawaiian people. >> anthony: what's your feeling here? >> andrew: i do feel like i'm hawaiian in a sense. you know, because it's, like, my place. but