in the 70s, the truth is, i don't mind somebody monitoring my phone calls, i am a good 57, an -- goodperson, and my husband is a firefighter, i don't care, you can find out how much times i have a dermatologist appointment or have pizza. i don't care. if they catch the bad guys. kennedy: but it is so vast, there is no way of keeping track of the bad guys, that is what makes it expensive. >> i do think that people are hypocrites, they get upset about mass phone information, collection we're not talking about listening to your phone call but metta data, people put out anything on the internet. the most personal of details, and basically, just hand it over for free. to a major corporation radio. kennedy: dagen. if you don't understand the difference between government coercion and knowing he put out information. >> they have no idea what the companies are doing with that information, they are just as in the dark about that. kennedy: if you are moraly equivkating our status update on facebook with the way that nsa is illegally -- >> not illegally. kennedy: it is. >> i think -- just. >> i am not