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>> doris kearns goodwin, thank you so much. you will also be in our next segment. >> that's exciting. >> a videotape. >>> and doris and jon meacham and the civil war in pennsylvania. next on "morning joe." >> announcer: did you know there are secret black market websites around the world that sell stolen identities? >> 30-year-old american man, excellent credit rating. >> announcer: lifelock monitors thousands of these sites 24 hours a day. and if we discover any of our members' data for sale, lifelock is there with the most comprehensive identity theft protection available. [♪...] [squealing, crash] call 1-800-lifelock or go to lifelock.com today. >>> america is in the midst of commemoration of the anniversary of the civil war. and consider the battle of g gettysbu gettysburg. and with us to talk about it. mike barnicle, he was there and pulitzer winning historian jon meacham. by the way, he was cheering for lee. best selling author, doris kaerearns good win. let's begin with you, jon, why did gettysburg matter so much? >> it

presidential historian and author doris kearns goodwin. that's why i had all that fdr stuff in there. republican congressman todd cole of oklahoma and jonathan martin, senior political reporter for politico and co-author of "the end of the line." a huge historical buff, maybe after me here. first, lye to the white house, my colleague, partner in crime, kristen welker. kristen, is it a festive occasion right now there? we see a lot of hustle and bustle. what's been going on there this morning? >> a lot of hustle and bustle. it is definitely festive. there's not going to be a whole lot of pomp and circumstance today, though, chuck, in that actual ceremony. but this is going to be a ceremony steeped in symbolism to some extent. we understand president obama will be sworn in using the bible of his wife's family. this is first lady michelle obama's grandmother's bible, and we understand it was a present from her father to her mother back in 1958 on mother's day. a little bit of symbolism there. as you said, the president will take the oath of o

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monica crowley, michael goodwin, judith miller are back.s. ♪ lou: well, i hate to break up the inaugural party with the fact that we realized that a number of americans have died along with a nuber of others in that hostage siege in algeria. we are back. monica crowley is here, as is judith miller and michael goodwin. i want to start with you. this is another raw, open wound on this administration's performance in foreign policy. we know lite. we have a recent broadcast. katie mcfarland, our colleague said point-blank, the failure of this administration to respond to benghazi will result in another hit, and it is surely coming, and it did. your thoughts? >> i think that the algerians, even though we are taking a lot of criticism right now for what they did, absolutely right thing because it seems to me that people who strapped explosives to hostages and make it clear that there are there to teach them about islam do not have any intention of negotiating. lou: i will go farther, if i may. i will go further than this and say that the algerian

we conclude this evening with part two of our conversations with historians, they are doris kearns goodwin, jon meacham, bob woodward, bob carry and michael beschloss. >> i think part of what obama has to do in history is one line in the chart is the decline in household income. median household income. it's been falling for 12 years, the american dream a phrase going into the 1930's is in genuine peril, i'm not being yogi bear saying we're at the fork in the road and we should take the fork. it's a fact and the opportunity is going away. there may be a good business cycle coming but we know the long term trend here is heading in the wrong direction. >> rose: james taylor and presidential his historians and journalists when we continue. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: james taylor's one of the most recognized voices in american music. the five-time grammy award winner sold close to 100 million albums. he's equally celebrated for his guitar playing, his lyrics and his distinct baritone voice. in 2011 taylor was aw

that there are two contradictions with his appointment as a knight how can the government strip fred goodwin of his knighthood and effectively hand it to the man whose organization failed to stop goodwin's catastrophic ambitions in the first place i like that they call it catastrophic ambitions you robbed a bank you defrauded a country oh there's a catastrophic ambition. well it shows you the complicity of the government that the regulators who are the government get rewarded well fred the shred was you know taken out back and shot like joe pesci and the movie i think was the other casino or goodfellas had it not completely up to date on my mafia film history but occasionally got a whack somebody to keep the population stupid and of course there's no stupid our population than the victims of financial fraud around the world then they ask but also how can the government reject the financial services authority in its track record to the extent that it has passed legislation to abolish the regulatory body is still awarded chief executive a knighthood in honor which bestows official recognition

that there are two contradictions with his appointment as a knight how can the government strip fred goodwin of his knighthood and effectively hand it to the man whose organization failed to stop goodwin's catastrophic ambitions in the first place i like that they call it catastrophic ambitions you robbed a bank you defrauded a country oh there's a catastrophic ambition. well it shows you the complicity of the government that. again rewarded well fred there. you know taking out. joe pesci and. you know we're going to sell a. lot of cash. to commit the hardest of the hardcore crimes for the emperor they get awarded and rewarded over and over throughout history whether it's timothy geitner who is at the heart of this financial global financial collapse the fraud that led to it he was the head of the new york federal reserve bank which through which all of the fraud happened it happened through there and it happened through london who were the two regulators that oversaw this so timothy geitner and sir actor sounds well you mention empire of cora's empire of. have referred to countries that hav

they included doris kearns goodwin, jon meha michael beschloss, robert caro and bob woodward.s part two of that conversation. doris do you think when those historians met with the president they had any influence on him and what came out of those meetings even though you're not supposed to acknowledge you were there. >> no, you know, i think to go back to what bob said. the fact that you've got a president who reads history means that he's learning from previous presidents. he's not just learning from his first term but the stories and the try alls and the tragedies of previous presidents are in his head. harry truman read a lot of history, teddy roosevelt and so does barack obama and i think that's a really helpful thing. what history will tell you even though there is this second term curse idea, there's no great historic president without a second term. it's a huge opportunity because the country has already legitimized what you did in the first term as complicated as it might be during the recession. they wanted you back again. and now you've got a chance to build the base

conversation about the presidency of barack obama and the next four years joined by doris kearns goodwin, jon meacham, bob woodward, bob caro, and michael beschloss. >> i know it's the consensus that we're -- barack obama has to do is get along with the republicans. i'd like to say something about that. president obama is fond of quoting-- and if he isn't, i am-- martin luther king's statement "the moral arc of the universe bends slowly but it bends towards justice." in the first term, president obama did bend that moral arc. he got health insurance, peace of mind for more than 30 million people. the bill may be floored but it's passed. in the second term i see a sort of differently. everyone's attacking the moral arc of justice-- social security medicare everyone's saying we have to cut it bck. that's the great safety net for the american people. i almost see him as a defender. he has to defend social security and medicare in a fiscally responsible way. >> rose: inaugural day 2013, assessment by journalists and looking forward with historians when we continue. >> rose: today barack obam

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our guest a woman who skyrocketing to fame by (bleep) in a sink -- [ laughter ] doris kearns goodwin will be on the show tonight. [ laughter ] melissa mccarthy we're very excited. let's begin on the conservative movement. ask any rock-ribbed conservative and they say. >> we the people are allowed to decide how to live our lives trchlz a parter for individual freedom. >> it really is liberty versus tyranny. >> i don't want a bigger government telling us how to live our lives. >> order us around, tram. our freedoms. >> get out of our lives mr. nanny state. >> jon: please, mr. nanny state is my father. call me jon. by the way, mr. nanny state the name of my ill fated 1994 attempt at a family comedy political thriller. [ laughter ] first movie that went direct to your toilet but the principle still stands what separates conservatives from liberals is conservatives thinks government is bad and people are good. unless the people work in government then they are bad. but they can leave government, go to a lobbying firm and become good again. it's a complicated theory. but freedom loves have

>> for mark goodwin it will be his first super bowl. defense among a handful that was given the opportunity to buy tickets through a lottery. he bought two for $950 each, one for him and one for his brother. >> it's a great opportunity to see my little brother, and i'm just totally stoked about this team. >> go niners! >> but not everyone who bought tickets through the lottery is going to go to the super bowl. this family is planning to sell their tickets to pay for their season tickets next year. >> who are you going to sell them to? >> anyone who wants them for a good price. >> terry white would never consider sell his tickets. he wants those bragging rights to say he's gone to all six 49er super bowls. >> i brag about i've been to all five and everyone looks at me and say you what? now i won't have to say i've just gone five of six. so i'll be -- have been to six. >> the 49ers will be heading out to new orleans later today. they will be leaving their practice facility at noon where they will be taken by bus to san jose. their flight

just ask jonathan goodwin. >> say no to your distant cousins and new friends, you know. just eliminate the headaches. >> you've got the giants win, you know. we're doing well. we've got the sharks. and the 49ers. >> yeah. we had fun with that clip obviously, because he remembered smith got a warning from the nfl when alex wore a giants hat at a news conference. >> you can't take any chances with the nfl. >> no, you can't. frank gore got fined $10,000 today because his socks were too low in the nfl championship game. >> a new uniform rule. >>> the question that made secretary of state hillary clinton explode and then tear up. >>> how a bay area couple is making money off the final days of double slide. >>> and meet the bay area mom and daughter who just won the super bowl ticket lottery. but first, some 49er photos the fans e-mailed us earlier tonight. get beautyrest, posturepedic even tempur-pedic mattress sets at low clearance prices. save even more on floor samples, demonstrators, and closeout inventory. the year end clearance sale ends sunday at sleep train. ♪ your ti

joining me now, doug brinkley and doris kearns goodwin.me to you both. >> thank you. >> thank you, glad to be here. >> doris, i'm excited to finally talk to you. because i've talked to doug a few times. i went to see "lincoln" the other day. i thought it was absolutely a magnificent movie and really just showed me firsthand what an extraordinary man lincoln was. >> there's no question. i mean, i'm so proud of what they did. you almost feel like you're watching abraham lincoln walking and talking and the political genius that he had. in our time now to see the possibility of getting those characters in congress to come together to do something is a great sobering lesson. >> do you wish perhaps that today's politicians from the president down showed some of the moral courage that lincoln showed over the issue of slavery, for example? >> i think that's the real point. you know, everybody talks about we wish the politicians today showed the compromise which the movie shows and lincoln showed. but it's the moral courage and the convictions of f

goodwin joined a home grown group. >> very talented, athletic for their sizes. everybody is pretty smart. great combination for a line to move the way these guys could move. >> reporter: all five starters have been together all year. and they blend. like a boy band? [ music playing ] >> a boy band? >> reporter: [ inaudible question ] >> that is bad analogy. no, very true. 5 different personalities. very -- all different. all come together and enjoy the same thing, same interests. awesome we get together and understand each other. >> reporter: they are not yet ready toa titian but they make -- to audition. but they make great music together. reporting live from new orleans, joe fonzi, ktvu channel 2 news. >> all right, joe. of course, this offensive line is still young, they could be in for a long, long time around here and they adopted to the read option offense in the middle of the year with colin kaepernick. >> i can't wait for the game. >> five important guys. yeah. so exciting in four days. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> stay with ktvu all week for complete

historian doris kearns goodwin. nbc's tom brokaw. and our chief foreign correspondent richard engel. plus, chuck todd. all coming up after this short break. >>> "meet the press" is brought to you by the boeing company. aig? we said we were going to turn it around, and we did. woman: we're helping joplin, missouri, come back from a devastating tornado. man: and now we're helping the east coast recover from hurricane sandy. we're a leading global insurance company, based right here in america. we've repaid every dollar america lent us. everything, plus a profit of more than $22 billion. for the american people. thank you, america. helping people recover and rebuild -- that's what we do. now let's bring on tomorrow. >>> for two-term presidents, their second inaugural is often an attempt to emphasize the successes of their first term with an eye towards shaping their place in history. only 16 presidents have delivered two inaugural addresses. we put the speeches of the last three two-term presidents through a word cloud to see what theme

>> for mark goodwin it will be his first super bowl. he was among a handful of season ticket holders tharpe given the opportunity to buy tickets through a lottery. he bought two for $950 each, one for him and one for his brother. >> it's a great opportunity to see my little brother, and i'm just totally stoked about this team. >> go niners! >> but not everyone who bought tickets through the lottery is going to go to the super bowl. this family is planning to sell their tickets to pay for their season tickets next year. >> who are you going to sell them to? >> anyone who wants them for a good price. >> terry white would never consider selling his tickets. he wants those bragging rights to say he's gone to all six 49er super bowls. >> i brag about i've been to all five and everyone looks at me and say you what? now i won't have to say i've just gone five of six. so i'll be -- have been to six. >> the 49ers will be heading out to new orleans later today. they will be leaving their practice facility at noon where they will be taken by bus t

here now doris kearns goodwin, chris matthews and richard reeves.searched and written books about john f. kennedy. and tonight all three weigh in on the president's legacy, starting with chris, whose most recent book about jfk is called "jack kennedy: elusive hero." >> i called him an elusive hero because that's what jacqueline kennedy, his widow, said of his years later. unforgettable elusive man. even she couldn't quite figure out who he was. >> a nation reveals itself not only by the men it produces but also by the men it honors, the men it remembers. >> the greatest heroes are often the most flawed. >> people have already factored in the idea that he had other women in his life. somehow the american people seem to have absorbed these stories over time, and it hasn't changed their fundamental liking for the memory of john kennedy. >> john f. kennedy and his wife too are cultural figures who will live far beyond their years. there was a universality about their virtues, their looks, they were beautiful, and we like to see ourselves reflected in th

from boston, dorr wince kearns goodwin, she won the pulitzer prize for her book called "no ordinary time." her latest biography "team of rivals" formed the basis for steven spielberg's movie "lincoln." she'll join us later. from nashville, jon meacham, he won a pulitzer prize for the biography of andrew jackson. from washington, d.c., pulitzer prize winning journalist bob woodward, his latest book is called "the price of politics." in new york, michael beschloss, the historian for nbc news and author of many books including "presidential courage: brave leaders and how they changed america." finally robert caro, the pulitzer prize winning author of the biography of lyndon johnson. the most recent biography is called "the passage of power." i'm pleased to have all of them here as we broadcast on this inauguration day as we talk about the second term of president barack obama. i begin with robert caro. what is the challenge for presidents in a second term? >> challenge but a great opportunity when you're in the second term you have nothing more to run for, no more elections. so what you're

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