i think goodwin lou. >> he was filibustered. it is different to filibuster someone for thh supreme court. you really have to talk. the way the senate works, i mean, it is so completely dysfunctional is that a senator who objects to who is going on said i'm going to filibuster and they just simply give up. a supreme court is such a high-profile kind of vote that the senate would simply wait them out. >> the old days of reading from the phone book to stall. >> well, they would have to do that. i'm not sure they could sustain. >> the senate regardless of the president, the senate that is likely to be in next session is going to be divided. >> quite divided, as it has been the last two years. >> the last line of your book, i will try to remembbr. the whole thing is great. the last line stayed with me. inevitably inveriably, the constitution lives. >> yes. >> i walked away hopeful. that everything that has been pplarizing for the country, that somehow the court is not the constitution's interpretation will always change, depending on