that," or, "i google you." back in 2006, shortly after the company went public, google opened its doors for the first time and let us google them. >> we have north america. >> oh, look at that. google cofounder sergey brin is showing us an electronic globe that displays the mountains of google searches happening around the world at any given moment. >> so every little dot represents a certain number of searches, but you can see that there are thousands of searches going on every second. >> looking at the googleplex, company headquarters in silicon valley, it's hard to imagine that just a few years ago the company basically consisted of the russian-born brin and cofounder larry page working in a converted garage. >> our boardroom table was also our ping-pong table, so it had the net and everything. >> inside the googleplex feels more like a college dorm than a corporate office: bikes in the hallways, dogs under the desks, and there's a strong spirit of play. besides all the ping-pong, there's a volleyball game e

on google. if you intend to buy a digital camera and search a digital camera it is value added to your search experience that you're getting the ad because you have an indication of who is willing to pay to get you as a customer and there's some implication that they're probably a credible vendor if they're willing to go on google to get you. there is the opportunity on mobile. social ads are very exciting already from the standpoint that they can be useful, but there's a bigger opportunity on mobile to intersect a lot more with what a person is actually doing in their day to day life. so the idea that i like to play around with is the experiment of i'm walking down the street and you're having lunch at whatever fancy media place you hang at out. and you're sitting by yourself -- >> rose: that's likely, too. >> cbs just let you go for the day, 1:30 in the afternoon and you're sitting there eating by yourself and i'm walking by and let's say i'm lucky enough or you want to be my facebook friend.

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in order to see it in 3-d, we go to google earth.googles got two applications, apple rolled it all into one. it's amazing they put this together so quickly. in some ways you see as a collector, i'd say i want them both. >> reporter: rumsey acknowledges that making maps always has been difficult, costly and labor- intensive. google is usually regarded as the leader of the digital world in maps, with everything from skyview to street view to google earth contributing to its displays. brian mcclendon is vice president of google maps. >> we worked very hard, we bought data from as many providers who had already been making maps before and tried to bring them together into a unified single interface. the u.s. government's actually a very good source for sort of raw map data, but it doesn't make a good map on its own. you need to do a lot of work to massage it. >> reporter: the company began making its own maps in 2008. it won't say how many people it devotes to map making, but indications are its in the thousands, including the drivers of

e-mails between betray us and his mistress paula broadwell but broadwell is certainly not alone google's semiannual transparency report shows that the number of government requests for user information has skyrocketed as you can see in the first six months of two thousand and twelve google says it received more than twenty thousand request nearly eight thousand of them were from the us most of their quest ninety percent were fulfilled to some extent oh now that the portray a story has exploded is the real story the government's ease and desire to see people's online activity even when there is no crime being committed to discuss r t producer adriaan and sarah and r.t. web producer andrew blake was things for joining me here so what do you think andrew is the media missing the big story here i like how you asked if this was the big picture as if this wasn't the big picture for the last twenty five or thirty years i mean a couple of generals that you know investigated everyone's a.c.l.u. all of a sudden. you know people start bringing the some oh is the real housewives of the pentagon and

is we see google's transparency report the u.s. is leading in the number of requests one to pull this graph up here we see that government requests have increased exponentially over the years and since two thousand and four the demand to snoop on e-mails and other internet activity you see rises dramatically so what do you think about that that the u.s. is really on the forefront of this compared to other countries especially when we really tell that we we have free speech here. well i think there's no question that in america we do have free speech which is a great thing i was actually inside of microsoft back in two thousand and four working on criminal investigations with law enforcement and doing exactly what google is doing in this situation which is complying with the legal request i think what you're seeing is when you have an internet connected society which the united states is then much like the physical world a lot of the crime has moved into the online environment and what the government has started doing is focusing mo

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. >> google's email? >> no. >> because everybody's talking about a gmail killer. >> it's certainly what everyone's writing about. >> google... >> yes. >> facebook and google. >> yes. >> are they on a collision course? >> they are indeed. >> the fight's over what? it's over how-- >> search. how people find, discovery, search. >> say you want to buy a car. you can type "prius" on google and get publicly available information. or you can type "prius" on facebook and get personal advice about it from your friends. are you trying to turn everything we do on the web into a social function? >> i think what we've found is that when you can use products with your friends and your family and the people you care about, they tend to be more engaging. i think that we're really gonna see this huge shift where a lot of industry is--and products are just gonna get remade to be social. >> so you're out here in silicon valley. can you feel a tectonic plates... >> yes. >> shifting over? >> well you can see the talent shift

google has to pay the papers, then the business model for papers could change. the papers may be able to find an easier way of getting people to pay for what papers do. bbc news, berlin. >> the state of the ice sheets is getting wide attention. the biggest collaboration yet between scientific experts is revealing that melting is much worse in the northern hemisphere that in the south. david schlecker and has more on what this means in the debate about global warming. >> the crash of ice and ocean. this is green land, the great forces at work here are incredibly hard to measure. and for years, scientists have disagreed about how fast the ice is melting. now different research teams have joined forces to assess the latest data. in greenland, if on the fastest rate of change. the red areas are where the immelt has accelerated in the past 20 years. the blue areas are where the ice is getting thicker. is the red of rapid melting that dominates. >researchers have also combined their debt on antarctica. little has changed here. but one region to the red -- to the west

the issue with google is i'm long both apple and google., i believe at $500, we have much bigger problems. if google sees 500 and apple sees mid-400, there's something else going on at that point. right now, buying the dips in apple hasn't been extremely painful for people to start in at 600 on the first real big dip. once you get into 20, 25% dips from an already original, you know, pullback, then you start thinking about what really happened here in the market? what else is going on in the underlying factors? i think with google and apple being so well positioned, there would have to be something else going on government-wise, tax-wise, or just mood of the country-wise that just takes those stocks and obliterates them that much further. >> howard, the dow is up about 2.5% now year to date. will it end the year positive? >> i'm confident we're going to end the year positive. i think we're still in a good spot where alternatives to the stock market are weak. america's still very relatively strong. all the margins for production reside in pa

google seems to be stumbling in that transition, one i think that facebook has mastered, but google is a player where it has to be in tablets and phones. it innovates and gets right back in the game the way microsoft and intel used to. it's all missouri, show me, but nevertheless when i read about their products, they may very well show us, which brings me to apple. [ mooing ] >> the amazing thing, pogue admits that apple does have some incredibly serious competition for the ipad, but the competition happens to be the ipad mini. he doesn't come out and say it. the takeaway is while google is coming after apple hard with the nexus, the game still belongs to apple, why? because the app.s that make the apple ecosystem. all that lives within that ecosystem -- winners. on amazon, which is a super retailer with a slick razor to run the razor blades, apple is truly a tablet and smartphone driven company with a solid pc and ipod business, too. the fact that pogue masse it to be the de facto gift, when wall street seems to be disappointed with the ipad as well as sales for the iphone 5, tells m

google, amazon and apple. now, all three, like barnes & noble, can't be judged by the tablet products, but we can and must make broader judgements about these companies. pogie makes the point they all offer superior products. he says that point-blank, to me that says, well, hold it, this isn't about private labels offering superior value to branded products. no, it's the opposite. second, these companies are relentless innovators, all trying to one-up each other. everywhere, the more i dig, the more i realize this competition isn't zero sum. all three could be winners in their own way. amazon is a champ. not because of the kindle, but because it's offering superior value on everything it sells. i believe it's the only real retail winner in a terrible month of november. we saw those numbers today. when the stores are closed in the wealthy portions of the northeast, that brings more samplers to amazon. google, the last quarter was such a stinker, kind of count this company out these days, don't we? after the inc

and you can work at google but if you're a creator of google you can't work there. >> that's the stupidity of american policies. >> and it goes back to john questions. or maybe it was eric. if it's that dumb surely this can get solved. is it 250id to immigration? immigration's such an angry, sore subject in washington. >> you hit the nail on the head, my friend. that's what the problem is. because the democrats want to solve the entire problem, comprehensive immigration reform, which means we provide some form of amnesty to the undocumented workers. the republicans will have no part of it. so if we solve the problem of skilled immigrants, then the urgency for solving the problems of unskilled, undocumented workers will be less. this is why the democrats aren't agreeing to what the republicans want. the republicans will happily solve the problems of the skilled but the democrats aren't letting it happen. which is what the irony over here. democrats all or nothing. republicans, give us the world's best and brightest and keep everyone else out. >> there is the piece that feels like america --

google is worth noting has been in discussions with the ftc for about two weeks.and has not been any remedy proposals on the table. this with the ongoing problem whether or not google is abusing its dominant over the internet. some lawmakers think that getting rid of air traffic control towers as a way to help people quit issue in washington. and also we have starbucks ticking off the holiday season with a buy one get one deal. all of that coming up. live at bloomberg headquarters, abc 7 news. >> i think that will be popular. it is 4:38. a school outside with the rain. a 45 degrees. >> a new way to wake up while visiting the latest news, weather and traffic. and you can get our new alarm clock >> we know it can be hard to wake up. especially if you have to be up at this early hour. we want to make things easier for you. >> this is courtesy of our new alarm clock iphone at. >> get out of bed. >> there is leon waking up. we have. tones. you can download this for free. >> and jacqui jeras, you can wake up to her in the morning. how're you doing? >> i am great. kind o

i wonder if the next set won't be karl rove but some compile from google who truly knows how to run the source code. >> absolutely. i am sure there are many people out there right now pitching congressional campaigns who are saying we got to get us one of those, you know, google guys. >> when i was in chicago talking to the senior aids about this stuff, they said that jim and the tv people at the obama campaign hated this stuff because they don't get to make their own decisions anymore or the money off of it. >> that's a different issue. they can negotiate their pay but the decisions of where the ads are bought and how much you're going to target, what cable show and everything like that, no longer made by wise men and smokey rooms. it is made by data. >> we'll leave it there. karen finney, michael cherrer, thank you for joining us tonight. >> what purpose to reform the filibuster if you're not going to get the part that is tying

search engine of their own as well as replacing the google. services. of course. users access to the google play store where they won't even need it says they will have a great. social. this newly launched gateway to the web is another optimized based browser the developers have incorporated. which preach the incoming traffic to allow for faster surfing what used to be just a. combined address and search tool crucially this ought to be another warning sign to google which as you can see by comparing the two companies offerings directly compete on many fronts. with this latest move appears to be trying to expand its so-called ecosystem. cation russia is one of the country's two largest email servers and dominates the search engine game its own browser and. all of their online products together with. the with the skilled with rumors about potential partnerships with apple and microsoft services in russia. products and back channel chats aside producers are confident that they have an ace up their sleeve when it comes to keeping one step ahead of the competition and

google drive, google docks, right, ronner?o t. >> that is your new operating system, is it not? >> right. so brian, the web does become your os. actually this particular chrome book has kind of a hybrid aspect to it in that it has a hard drive, so the user can do some taxes locally, battery life is an issue and if it is a high mobility device, you want all-day battery life. >> roamer, do you think that the chrome book is any threat to ipad's tablet dom naps? >> in the short term, clearly no the promise of chrome books is out in the future, when connectivity is ubiquitous and high speed and reliable and secure and you don't really need to contact anything locally in order to do computing. for now, everything is a little bit pointer mitt tent. yes, some people have very good connectivity but until everybody has great connectivity you can the chrome book's promise still lies ahead of us. >> yeah, i think that's good argument. my only thing towards that is that it's basic and you're not getting a full ecosystem, right? getting jus

you like google over apple. is that allowed? >> i may be one of the only once out here who still liked go eds over apple. apple enjoyed a nice healthy steady uptrend from the 2009 lows. rallied up to 700. kind of stalled out, pulled back. what concerns me is where it saw this pullback. it saw a low from may around 530. traders saw that low. they use it as a stop. it bounced slightly from here, but i don't think that was a really good support zone. now if you look at dwoog l, i think google is actually standing on very strong support. we see a multiyear wedge forming. multiple times it tested that 650 area of resistance. now it's resting on that support. as they say, tall houses can be built from strong foundations. i think google has a strong foundation. >> one of many things they say. erin, why are you sticking with apple? >> not only if you look at the chart but fundamentally. in may, they bought motorola. when they made their earnings announcement in mid-october, you can see that huge drop. apple is trading at 40% less on val

i don't even really get it and the game hasn't been profitable to google so why i promote it. to collect data it's google's way of collecting data not only does the game like that about what businesses you visit but it also requires a constant reporting every g.p.s. location and it could help the mega search engine fill in empty spaces in its mapping data information is the name of the game do you think people are that big of suckers that they don't realize everything that they're doing and that some kind of new venture like this is can help or so that they have i will tell your motive but you know what i was like thinking about this. when i began to use social media location to location based applications blah blah blah was very hesitant nervous but what always happens with the knowledge is that you get so used to it you just become accepting and part of that isn't just convention it's also usefulness this stuff is really useful having this information is very useful one of the benefits of the data they're collecting is you can find let's say routes that are behind seven elev

government has been working closely with the private sector such as google and microsoft yahoo all the major internet companies of the world as well as of the united states you will see more investigations taking place online so i'm not surprised by the numbers that actually make a lot of sense and i think if you look at the numbers around the world over the past ten years and going forward in the next five or ten years the more connected a society becomes the more broadband penetration faster internet access the more others in the criminal element will start using it right out of the border absolutely does make sense the more that people conduct their lives on line which is what we're seeing the more that every all facets they are going to. spread on the internet and use crime that are. you know exactly why they can be counted on down the internet sales as we're seeing but because of this. he really do think that it's easier now for the government to be able to spy and obtain information since it all is stored in cyberspace where you know what's really interesting about this is and i

. >> possible fine google could face, millions of dollars, plus, is it enough to teach them a lesson?ow do you feel? >> it's bad. >> this man reacts to developments in a strike taking his twinkie >>> some alert tsa officer as rested a man they suspected was ahax4f possible terrorist, carrying what they believed are components that could be used to make a bomb. it was also strange. >> that is what tsa officers were thinking. strange, and sus spishus. the more they discovered the more suspicious they became. at 8:00 last night jeffrey going through the check poin at southwest airlines head back to his home in rancho palos verdes, reportedly took off a watch, put knit the bin with his carry on. investigators say he covered witness a coat. and an alert officer didn't like what he saw. >> a watch had on it toggle switch. and a series of fuses. >> the sheriff sargeant says the tsa found no explosives the bomb squad determined it had ingredient to make a device for a bomb. and it's sizes too big. stuffed with insoles something the shoe bomber did. >> they had, what appeared to be a homemade

let's wrap up with loose change dimitri google has come out with a new worldwide alternative reality game called ingress the games designed to allow people to move to real world scenarios while collecting pockets of energy through their android phone here's a sneak peek. i know that many tools will be needed to fight this battle you just up in the world a look at what you're seeing. into our world and there are. certain sections. i don't even really get it and the game hasn't been profitable to google so why i promote it to collect data it's a google's way of collecting data not only does the game like doubt about what businesses you visit but it also requires a constant reporting every g.p.s. location and it could help the mega search engine fill in empty spaces and its mapping data information is the name of the game do you think people are that big of suckers that they don't realize those everything that they're doing and that some kind of new venture like this is can help or so that they have i will terrier but if well you know what i was like thinking about this when when i bega

everybody uses google to search and there's google plus.ife can be built around google if you want, g mail, all these things. what happens and what google was trying to do this year was to sort of create and use all their different online products and your activity on them to create an online profile of you. to use what you search for and to use what's in the terms in your e-mails. if there's something with google plus, they can kind of create an idea that that is what your personality is. i think that the personality of people online, they assume there's a cloak there so people let parts of themselves sort of show online that they otherwise would. i think there's a story in the times last week about -- >> like what, steve? be specific. >> there's a couple ways to read that statement like anthony weiner would say. google auto complete. start asking a question about something. you find out what people -- you and about john boehner, you don't ask about the fiscal cliff or the tax plan. they ask if john boehner is gay. is joe biden, stupid, re

i did buy google. i would rather be a buyer of googleal google. >> for more let's bring in steven, technical analyst. what do you see in the charts? seems like a few people are seeing. >> we are looking at the rising 200-day moving average and the s&p 500 is moving. there is a difference between 1370 and 1340 and that is where we think the market can see the support. normal season ality about 1.5%. we are more worried next year. we think you can get a pullback in the first quarter of 2013 in conjunction of the presidential cycle. normally you are weak from the second half of the first year which is 2013 into 2014. we think we can get a rally and a better opportunity to get more profit. >> you are also specifically looking at mega caps as one reason why you are bullish. what are you looking at? >> we think mega caps this year emerged as leadership. we have the s&p 100. we take a relative of that. you have a break out from a two-year base. mega caps have under performed. when you look what is going on th

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google says it did it by accident and will not admit wrongdoing.y were glad the court agreed there was no merit to the request. >> we have fundamental problems with the notion you can pay your money and deny you did anything wrong. >> inspied of the ruling, they hope it brings attention to track users on the web that is more common in the last few months. >> when you are using the internet you have a shadow of corporations following you around and taking note of everywhere you go. >> do not track button in some browsers but that is only a request and most advertisers track you anyway. they did their own research and found google is the single biggest tracker. >> you can watch what people do and how they behave. you learn what motivates them. that is really the key to understanding what people will be most likely to do. >> advertisers could use the data to show people different prices and how to avoid that. >> you need to block advertisements if they want to protect their privacy online. >> terry: new this morning, the boy scouts will conduct one of

but google convenient urs has bigger plans.e good people with more good companies and yes, with even more money. >> the question that i get asked by google who is the lp providing the money, is why not a billion a year? that's an interesting question. >> maybe the future. >> in mountain view, scott budman, nbc bay area news. >> the menlo park fire district got a nice donation. seven fire engines now have ipads on board. they will allow firefighters to access people's medical information while responding to a call. >> with these devices are intended to do. what the information is intended to do that we're putting on them. to enhance the firefighters' ability, to have that information real-time. make it a benefit and not make it a deterrent. >> different apps will give firefighters immediate access to detailed information, such as thing as building plans and hazardous materials. they'll be able to use google earth to see what's behind buildings during a fire. they will eventually eliminate all the paper and binders currently used

google ventures has bigger plans.anies and yes, with even more money. >> the question that i get asked by google who is the lp providing the money is why not a billion a year? that's an interesting future. maybe the future. >> scott budman, today in the bay. >> still ahead, president barack obama's inauguration is a little more than two months away. it is already big business in d.c. we will show you how people are cashing in. first mike inouye has a look at the calendar. >> there is lots to do in the bay. hand crafted is the theme today. tradition i have grown up is the jams boutique at the buddhist temple. gifts, clothes and food, traditional favorites. this year they will have children's authors who will be signing books as well. a great life lessons involved there. here's a journal message to change it up. that means saturday. that means flight day. it means crazy and hand crafted human-powered flying machines careening out over a ramp over covey cove. the record is 207 feet. not even 100 yards. not a lot of fluid

in other news, the map app battle between apple and google is heating up. google is putting out the final touches on a new app that will work on apple phones. if it's accepted into itunes ill will compete with apple's new soft more. apple removed google maps as a standard app when it released its latest software in september. but that move back fired as consumes complain apple's map app is majorly flawed. back to you. >> thank you very much. we'll check back a little later on. >>> this morning we're getting a sneak peek at the format of the upcoming steve jobs movie starring ashton kutcher. it will be made up of just three scenes. first the release of the first mac. second is the lead-up to the launch of jobs company and third before the launch of the ipod. no other details being given and the trailer has not yet been released. jobs, the movie, is scheduled to open sometime next year, 2013. >> definitely looking forward to that. jobs always did his presentations in threes. maybe there's something to that. >>> right now we know there's a lot to the weather.

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