number 3 be able to access that data and store it for themselves it's not necessarily better of google and apple do it because then google and apple are the ones who are storing the data right the problem is going to be this that when a government comes in and says hey we can use this for a much wider applications then coronavirus where does it go away at what point did those apps disappear or do they become embedded in the framework of every smartphone i think and most people are smart enough to know that's where we're headed and that's why it's a problem either way the data is going somewhere we all know that nothing and nothing is actually free especially when it comes to the data collecting apps. spend so on it thank you for your time and analysis. sort of thing. tensions between the united states and china are on the rise while it's creating concern that it could be the start of a new cold war and it could eliminate progress already made on the u.s. china phase one trade deal artie's rachel blevins joins me now to discuss the details rachel what's the current state where we saw them sign th

europe we've discussed previously in the past few weeks how had they were asking facebook or apple and google to ease some of these privacy restrictions and that's where it didn't actually go through with them but let me ask you this apple and google both saying that there are some privacy issues here that's what their take is for the customers right well is this an issue of data collection and who collects the data and then who keeps the data and where does it go. well that is part of it i mean part of it is that these 2 tech companies apple and google are saying hey we'll gather the information we'll have the data and then we'll pass it to you and that's in range in a lot of public health officials and and politicians because they say no no no you collect the data you give it all to us and we'll decide what to do with it and there right now there's a battle between essentially the private collection and storage of this information versus government collection and storage of the nation and i don't think governments like the idea of not being the ones in control of it but there's also a techn

history and you know that's not true i think what they're actually trying to do here is that apple and google or essentially saying we want to be the ones who control the information gather the data store the data and we decide what governments get i mean in doing this apple and google as tech companies become more powerful than any government in the world in terms of surveillance they become the most powerful in-city when it comes to that i think that's ultimately what they want and that's exactly why the government is turning to that because like we said i mean the government is going to be able to break this we saw the f.b.i. when they finally cracked the apple phone when they were trying to solve and do the investigation in california over the shooting so apple then i don't know that was a p.r. stunt or if it was just hey like we're going to protect you guys and protect the customers but they managed to pull it off at least to make the audience think hey we're protecting your data when it comes to that co-host of the swan an investigative journalist thank you for the analysis. there are t

reportera: dos gigantes de la tecnologÍa, google y apple, que son rivales en el mercado, ahora estÁns que estuvieron a pocos pies de distancia en los Últimos 14 dÍas. Él también se hubiera enterado en caso de que la persona que lo contagiÓ a Él tuviera la misma aplicaciÓn. yomber: quÉ bueno que pronto de alguna manera o me hubieran avisado a mÍ u otros le hubieran avisado a uno o uno avisarle a los demÁs o algo, ¿no? pero no habÍa forma de nada. carmen: segÚn los planes, la aplicaciÓn estarÁ disponible para iphones y androids, y activarla es una decisiÓn voluntaria. walter: y nos abre muchas oportunidades para la salud digital y para la informÁtica en salud. carmen: walter curioso es vicerrector de investigaciÓn en la universidad continental de perÚ. tiene un doctorado en informÁtica biomÉdica y es consultor internacional en tecnologÍa de la informaciÓn y comunicaciÓn en salud. mujer: y mi pregunta es que yo padezco de alergias. en tiempos de frÍos... carmen: para Él esta tecnologÍa es valiosa no solo en la telemedicina... walter: sino tambiÉn con las historias clÍnicas electrÓnicas

people's lives 2 of the world's biggest tech giants at google and apple plan to embed new features in their devices using context tracing technology but say the tool will be removed once the pandemic ends the critics say it could lead to ongoing some violence with governments using the data the other person's. technology may be playing a critical role in containing the pandemic but human rights groups warn it might also normalize surveillance in the future once this outbreak is under control. sarah clarke al-jazeera hong kong coronavirus tracking ups keep a record of where you've been most will use bluetooth technology they work well when people a close to each other smartphones talk to nearby devices they'll quickly alert a user if he or she is near a confirmed or suspected case this can help to dish and tracing which involves manually tracking down the contacts of infected people. around 30 tracking systems are being developed around the world but researches say the apps only work well if a majority of people use them one u.k. trials starting next week need at least 80 percent parti

data being centrally stewart it later backed down and is now pursuing proposals promoted by google and apple and. essential i solutions decided upon last weekend a solution this ensures data is only stored on the device and not in a central location we convince the people trusted. that d. centralized approach has also been taken by ireland italy and others to while here in france the government has decided to shun big tech and work on its own though any app that it develops may not even fully function with apple new google phones which is potentially rather problematic and there's concern about the privacy elements while the virus tracing apps are expected to keep sensitive and private data safe as we have seen time and time again not snot always possible that may be one of the reasons why the e.u. commissioner for justice gave this warning the apps should be only used during the crisis and the day. when the pandemic is sort of but the decisions governments take now at a time when there is unprecedented political economic and public health pressure all the ones that will resonate for years p

tech companies like apple and google are jumping to help. e and potential abuses of high-tech contact tracing. >>reporter: apple and google, who quarter and a combined 95% of the u.s. cell phone market, announced a partnership to use phones to pinpoint if you have come in contact with someone who's tested positive for the virus. >> when your phone is there another phone or somebody else's, it's able to create a record of that connection. instead of going by where you are geographically, it is looking to see who's phones are near to the. >>reporter: the head of risk management for trusted tech a cyber security company. this is because they are recording who you've been in contact with instead of everywhere you go, it should his concerns about privacy at least a little. but safeguards built into the system have limits. >> there has to be some way to take and analyze data and link it to somebody. if you have someone that test positive you can go back and notify those people. >>reporter: company say that information would be shared with public he

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big tech and work on its own though any app that it develops may not even fully function with apple nor google phones which is potentially rather problematic and there's concern about the privacy elements while the virus tracing apps are expected to keep sensitive and private data safe as we have seen time and time again not always possible that may be one of the reasons why the e.u. commissioner for justice gave this warning the apps should be only used during the crisis and be decorative it. when the pandemic is sort of but the decisions governments take now at a time when there is unprecedented political economic and public health pressure are the ones that will resonate for years perhaps even decades to come we won't know if iris tracing apps are useful unless significant chunks of the population download and use them but by then it may already be too late mass surveillance may become normalized all in the name of staying healthy. r.t. paris. to the point of nursing home suffering with grim mortality rates spain's leading newspaper has revealed the extent of the problem of 28000 total deat

the reason healthcare workers say apple and google partnership is worthless. >>> flames and thick black smoke in the south bay, what started and what happened in the local strip mall? >> i am chief meteorologist jeff ranieri tracking our weather tomorrow and an update on california's drought situation. i will see you back here in seven minutes. >>> developing at this hour, a deadly shooting involving a police officer in hayward. our sky ranger was over head. you can see all the police vehicles there. this is at kelly and wild wood street. it started as a traffic stop. at some point during that stop, an officer shot a man. he died at the scene. it is unclear what led to the shooting. >>> in the south bay, a fire is under control in san jose, this is the former dick's center mall, it started around 1:30. firefighters say they'll be on the scene for a while putting out hot spots and looking for the cause. >>> two of the world's biggest companies in the bay area are setting aside their rivalries to fight the virus. apple and google have developed technology that can track 3 billion smartpho

software company 20 developing contact tracing apps together, they say they don't need the google apple technology and at the end of the day the government, state public health department how to contact trades but using blue tooth do you want your phone, your data from your phone to go to a public health department or do you want to know if you were next to somebody that tested positive? it is a big story. at rob: one airline will guarantee the middle seat next he was empty on your flight but they want you to pay for that privilege. carley: frontier airlines will offer more room seat starting at $39. passengers and crew members are also required to wear face coverings. rob: we asked what you thought of this, responses pouring out on social media. >> dan honest graham rates of frontier wants to fly all middle seats should be empty at no cost to other passengers, just saying. jillian: another right here i should be fine if they put someone in the middle seat. restaurants charging more of the empty table next to you as we social distance. >> more big government? shocking. one twitter user

the ft, nhs contact tracing app in question as experts assess apple, google model. —turn there? apple, google model. surely not a u-turn there? i don't feel qualified to be able and i doubt many people are, to assess the efficacy of one syste m are, to assess the efficacy of one system from another. that is one of those ones where you really do need it to leave it to the experts. i just wonder why of something is good enough for responsible countries elsewhere whose values are identical or very elsewhere whose values are identical orvery similarto ours, elsewhere whose values are identical or very similar to ours, why we always seem to be looking for that bit of british exceptionalism? in other countries again, the lone star and all of it the is germany, are talking actively to those companies. i'm not saying, it should be down to those companies, one always has concerns about privacy and data particularly when it comes to the big silicon valley giants. but this isa big silicon valley giants. but this is a short or medium term and measure to improve tracking and trac

and as tech giants google and apple are working to do. well up an app for contact tracing some states are taking matters into their own hands but the outcome isn't exactly what they had hoped for and now the a.c.l.u. is rolling out some guidelines advising against government overreach correspondent tosh sweet reports from l.a. . but that's more phone app contact tree seen is able to keep track of those who have been infected with covert 19 and who they've come into contact with and will tech giants say it's anonymous many americans are questioning if it's constitutional or even an effective. tool alerting immediately you might have been exposed to cause that 19 google and apple have been working on a contact tracing app to trace and monitor contacts of infected people and then having the ability to notify them if they've been exposed to someone who tested positive for the virus but a handful of states like utah and washington have rolled out their own smartphone apps which are reportedly having technical glitches and also a lack of intere

government going down a road that is different from the likes of google and apple? cided to produce more automated products that isn't centralized. why is the more centralized product the way to go? pat: we would point out two things. google and apple are working on this and they just started to put forward some of their ideas for it. we have a shipping app that we are doing with the n.h.s. we are months ahead, saving lives and restarting the economy. so we are actually quite thrilled with the momentum that the n.h.s. has said we are move quickly and we partnered with them to get this developed rapidly. vonnie: sorry about that. pat: sorry about that. secondly, as google and apple start bringing forward their technology, we are engaged with them, with are looking forward to maybe opportunities to further build on some of the work that they've done and complement the work that's already been accomplished very effectively with the n.h.s. to date. guy: one of the key things about track and trace is that you need fast results in terms of testing and at the moment that is

as countries are rushing to develop these apps the big tech companies like google and apple are alreadymapping out the road ahead they're laying out the conditions for building the tools which you countries are due to rollout from next month while huge faith is being placed in contact tracing apps there is little solid evidence that they will be effective some are calling on governments to find some real alternatives. governments reason sure lost the grizzle not protect equipment and help get tests back since future condemning that's what not data collection. there is also the question to be honest about how much control these big tech companies will have all the forcing governments hands given the they already control the smartphone market and different digital tools from competing companies even be able to interact with each other. this is a major blind spot from a technical perspective. one another in germany plans had been afoot to develop an app of course several countries with data being centrally stewart it later backed down and is now pursuing proposals promoted by google and ap

the google-apple collaboration preserves your privacy but it's voluntary. many people will have to use those applications in order for them to work effectively. i think we need to look at this as an information problem and as an information problem what we need to do is collect as much information as we can and try to identify the hot spots and go to where they are. most of the disease is spread by hot spots which erupt. people will have a 15-year-old girl party where they celebrate and get close together and every one gets infected. choirs that are singing. people working in meet packing plants. all of those that are hot spots that move quickly. if we can stop that spread then we can really slow down the virus. >> let's step back. the one thing we can see is this has accelerated the technology. tell us, this is the kind of thing you've been predicting for a long time. what is the economy going to look like at the end of this in a year or two years. how much of it will go digital? >> we know some things already. we know that people are going to do many, man

making the following claim, the google, apple effort around contact raising his claim to protect individual privacy. do you know much about that. >> i do not know how they do it. i know that they do it and one way to ensure greater privacy is to use immediate neighborhood bluetooth connections. >> yeah. >> to identify who you are in contact with, rather than the more centralized cell phone system. some of the apps are limiting the exposure, in terms of freedom, by relying on the more neighborhood immediate geographic connection of bluetooth. with respect to the self-destruction, i loved that. i think that definitely all legal and technological steps towards inc. is eclipsing liberty have to have sunset clause attached to them. it can be a time related one, or it can just be an independent review board having the authority to order the mobile phone companies to implement the self-destruction button when the crisis has passed. >> got it. >> great idea. >> great ideas. i want to come back to the challenges that the pandemic is imposing on democracies. i have a couple really good questions abou

apple and google teaming up on an app that would help with contact tracing because of coronavirus. that was a month ago. tonight health officials are warning the software will be of little use. we explain why. >> the announcement was wonderful. it's getting to the difficult part of the compromise. how much i should give you. >> cyber security expert knew that when apple and google announced in april they would be working on a new app to alert users to potential exposure to the virus, it would be easier said than done. according to a "washington post" article, health authorities in states like north dakota and countries like canada have a asked for more access to the data collected by the app. apple and google have refused citing privacy concerns. >> in this area we found out that 2,000 people exposed. we cannot have that information. >> it works on a user to user basis. in this illustration for example bob has to tell the app he tested positive. for an anonymous alert goes out to anyone he came into contact with. based on id exchain through the app. dpaengs should think about doing

people's lives 2 of the world's biggest tech giants at google and apple plan to embed new features in their devices using context tracing technology but say the toll will be removed once the pandemic ends the critics say it could lead to ongoing some violence with governments using the data the other person's technology may be playing a critical role in containing the pen demick but human rights groups warn it might also normalize surveillance in the future once this outbreak is under control. sarah clarke al-jazeera hong kong. newcastle universities little edwards as a professor of law focusing on innovation and society she says new versions of the security concerns. there was kind of a 1st generation of rats which did camera in asia such as the china. type traffic lights at the hong kong which were fairly grossly brucey invasive media perhaps justifiable within the culture at that time but were not really acceptable to here and to some asian countries one of the ways so this being the 2nd way the bluetooth wraps which really get me to tech press in a t. rather than your geo location

the british government jet to the decent arise version built by apple and google is used by many other european countries or t. shirt to do has more. as countries are rushing to develop these apps the big tech companies like google and apple are already mapping out the road ahead they're laying out the conditions for building the tools which you countries are due to roll out from next month while huge faith is being placed in contact tracing apps there is little solid evidence that they will be effective some are calling on governments to find some real alternatives. governments please i'm sure at last the grizzle not protective equipment and help get tests back since future condemning that's. not data collection there's also the question to be arsed about how much control these big tech companies will have all the forcing governments hands given that they already control the smartphone market and will get different digital tools from competing companies even be able to interact with each other the interoperability a major blind spot from a technical perspective. one another in germany

the background so i think most efforts so far have been hampered because of that and now that google and apple have come out with their choice and effort a.p.i. that can now be used by health governments around the world that will change dramatically but you say up until today the us tracing abstinent really well while china managed pretty well tracing and isolating cases with its mandatory app could that have something to do with it so we have to be careful right when we say what tracing i mean you can trace people for example on movement but this is not will we want at least not here in europe we want to trace contacts close proximity contacts and this you can do with bluetooth where to bluetooth signal it can measure distance or estimate that this is between phones that was not possible on all phones until today when that a.p.i. is accessible but the others have done iceland china and so on that's not a real proximity tracing that's tracking of people's movements and that's very different and it's certainly not something we're interested in doing here so how reliable will this proximity tra

as countries are rushing to develop these apps the big tech companies like google and apple are already mapping out the road ahead they're laying out the conditions for building the tools which you countries are due to rollout from next month while huge faith is being placed in contact tracing apps there is little solid evidence that they will be effective some are calling on governments to find some real alternatives. like you did governments reason sure at last grizel not protective equipment and help get tests back since future condemning that's what not data collection there's also the question to be honest about how much control these big tech companies will have all the forcing governments hands given that they already control the smartphone market and will be different digital tools from competing companies even be able to interact with each other the interoperability a major blind spot from a technical perspective difficult to get. one another in germany plans had been afoot to develop an app of course several countries with data being centrally stewart it later backed down and

people's lives 2 of the world's biggest tech giants at google and apple plan to embed new features in their devices using context tracing technology but say the tool will be removed once the pandemic ends the critics say it could lead to ongoing surveillance with governments using the data for other purposes. technology may be playing a critical role in containing the pen demick but human rights groups warn it might also normalize surveillance in the future once this outbreak is under control. sarah clarke al-jazeera hong kong. well corona virus tracking apps keep a record of where you've been and most will use bluetooth technology and they work well when people are close to each other smartphones talk to nearby devices nell quickly alert a user if they're near a confirmed or suspected case and this can help traditional tracing which involves manually tracking down the contacts who infected people around 30 tracking systems have been devoted around the world for research as say the work best when many people use them. it's an interesting business this one let's take it on his way to l

meanwhile, google and apple are efforts and now there are concerns about privacy. >>> apple and google announced a partnership. they are using your phone to ping if you have come into contact with somebody positive for the virus. >> when your phone is near somebody else's, it can create a record of the connection. so instead of just going where you are geographically, they are seeing who's phones are near each other. >> he says because the phone records he you have been in contact with, it should ease concerns about privacy a little. he says the safeguard tilt into the system has limits. >> if you do have someone that test positive, you can go back and notify those people. expect the company says that information would be shared with public health officials who would encourage you to get tested. and to solve quarantine to prevent you from unknowingly spreading the virus. google says they will roll out an app. and later they plan to incorporate it into an operating system update to increase participation. >> they already have tons of information about you. they have just so much informa

now, privacy issues is absolutely going to be a problem, but what i like about what apple and googleng to develop, christi, is to use a bluetooth function which doesn't really capture the data it just shows if your phone has been in close proximity. so to give you an example, christi, if you've been out grocery shopping and then you went to meet a couple of friends, a contact tracer would have a nightmare asking you who do you think the cashier was? how many people were you in contact with? it gets so out of control. so that's when i think you actually need the traditional contact tracer who interviews you and calls you but you also need an app that works that can help. >> janet, there are people listening to this that may say i don't know if that person who called me is really somebody from a contact tracing company or whoever may be overseeing this. do you believe that there is a way to implement what this -- this legislation that they're promoting, that it's possible to make sure that no data from anybody is shared in any way because there's a real distrust there. >> well, and tha

here in the states apple and google are working jointly on the technology.ehind such tracking, technology advocates are watching it all closely. joining me to talk about all that and the future of technology is eric schmidt, former ceo and executive chairman of google. i should note that eric and i have been close friends for decades, and i'm a senior adviser unpaid to schmidt futures, wendy and eric schmidt's philanthropic entity. welcome, eric. >> thank you. good morning, fareed. >> so when you look at covid -- before we get to post-covid, when you look at covid, you said to me at once at some level this is a kind of information problem. what do you mean by that? >> the problem here is we have a silent killer that we can't see, and the majority of transmission appears to be asymptomatic. many people are giving the disease to others without having any symptoms at all. so how can you possibly trust the person next to you unless they're a family member or somebody you know very well without that ability to trust it will be extremely difficult to go to any kin

as i'm sure your viewers know, apple and google have got together and effectively decided the rules. important role to play, because if they don't accept the rules in the way the apps are using they won't download them and use them on their phones and adopt them, and they won't have the public both goals we think they will serve. we think it's up they will serve. we think it's up to they will serve. we think it's uptoa they will serve. we think it's up to a combination of things, which includes the tech companies but also the public as well, so we get this right. professor jeffrey as well, so we get this right. professorjeffrey kahn, as well, so we get this right. professor jeffrey kahn, thank you so much. thank you for having me. doctors at one of the hospitals hit hardest by coronavirus in the uk have spoken of theirfears of a second peak, as lockdown restrictions loosen. the bbc has been given unprecedented access to the royal london hospital. hundreds of people with the disease have died there, those from ethnic minority backgrounds particularly affected. medical staff say a rise