think all of us with more on it to believe that our privacy was being respected by facebook google microsoft eccentric cetera and they when the whole story broke they were very timid about talking about their relationship with the n.s.a. and now they come out and say we want to protect your privacy why should we believe them now. well actually the whole thing is the public doesn't understand and most people i work in supercomputing when we start talking about how the data is collected people have a misconception about. the government listening to individual telephone calls you know they're doing data analytics and they're doing things like looking at the ocean in different kinds of things so there's a lot of big data the processes that are being done and people like those but what they don't like is the involvement in what they think is their personal life personally i'm not doing anything that would be a problem so the government can listen to anything i do but there are people who want their privacy and like you said you're a journalist you want to be able to say and think and do whatever

think all of us with more on it to believe that our privacy was being respected by facebook google microsoft eccentrics cetera and they give this whole story broke they were very timid about talking about their relationship with the n.s.a. and now they come out and say we want to protect your privacy why should we believe them now. well actually the whole thing is the public doesn't understand and most people i work in supercomputing when we start talking about how the data is collected people have a misconception about. the government listening to individual telephone calls you know they're doing data analytics and they're doing things like looking at the ocean in different kinds of things so there's a lot of big data the processes that are being done and people like those but what they don't like is the involvement in what they think is their personal life personally i'm not doing anything that would be a problem so the government can listen to anything i do but there are people who want their privacy and like you said you're a journalist you want to be able to say and think and do whateve

google microsoft and amazon are the companies that lead with at least one female board members. starbucks giving away one cup of coffee. ceo howard schultz saying americans need to come together in these challenging times. the new look includes a 3d ribbon and colored ink. food a developer at the south by southwest e krxt oco. jet blue starts allowing families to pool their frequent flier miles. and letting customers decide who qualify qualifies for diskoucoundiscoun. >> i am the one who found this house i bought everything in it. >> with my money. it is a lot easier to spend. >> not exactly the war of the roses but the big talk name calling and mud slinging on capitol hill can sound like a bad marriage headed for divorce. >> a lot of americans can relate to this christine. that maybe reagan had with tip o'neill. he's not good at the small talk and the chit-chat. the how was your day dear stuff. you take john boehner who is having a hard time choosing between confrontation and his new marriage. let's talk about it, the affordable care act, it has been law for a few years and now

think all of us with more on it to believe that our privacy was being respected by facebook google microsoft eccentric cetera and they could this whole story broke they were very timid about talking about their relationship with the n.s.a. and now they come out and say we want to protect your privacy why should we believe them now. well actually the whole thing is the public doesn't understand and most people i work in supercomputing and we start talking about how the data is collected people have a misconception about. the government listening to individual telephone calls you know they're doing data analytics and they're doing things like looking at the ocean in different kinds of things so there's a lot of big data the process is being done and people like those but what they don't like is the involvement in what they think is their personal life and up personally. i'm not doing anything that would be a problem so the government can listen to anything i do but there are people who want their privacy and like you said you're a journalist you want to be able to say and think and do whatever

think all of us with more on it to believe that our privacy was being respected by facebook google microsoft eccentrics cetera and they this whole story broke they were very timid about talking about their relationship with the n.s.a. and now they come out and say we want to protect your privacy why should we believe them now. well actually the whole thing is the public doesn't understand and most people i work in supercomputing and when we start talking about how the data is collected people have a misconception about. the government listening to individual telephone calls you know they're doing data analytics and they're doing things like looking at the ocean in different kinds of things so there's a lot of big data the processes that are being done and people like those but what they don't like is the involvement in what they think is their personal life personally i'm not doing anything that would be a problem so the government can listen to anything i do but there are people who want their privacy and like you said you're a journalist you want to be able to say and think and do whatever

google has not really worked for them. what do you think will happen for microsoft? >> you have to look at the reasons the companies are making acquisitions. they did get into the hand set business at google and microsoft as acquiring nokia but acquired a substantial portfolio of property or pat tents, which both are using to grow base business and from the stand point of looking at microsoft, they have a devices and services strategy and need to put the product more in the hands of consumers as they move towards mobile forms of computing, smart phones and tablets. nokia not powerful as far as smart phones but the combination of a strand brand like nokia globally if we look into the developing markets and the technology invasion could lead to interesting upside over the next three to five years. >> we can't talk about tech without bringing up apple. i know you've been recommending it for awhile now. the stock crossed over the 500-dollar mark briefly today. what do you think about apple at this point and the stock, as well? >> you do have the new ipad that's going to b

google has not really worked for them. what do you think will happen for microsoft? >> you have to look at the reasons the companies are making acquisitions. they did get into the hand set business at google and microsoft as acquiring nokia but acquired a substantial portfolio of property or pat tents, which both are using to grow base business and from the stand point of looking at microsoft, they have a devices and services strategy and need to put the product more in the hands of consumers as they move towards mobile forms of computing, smart phones and tablets. nokia not powerful as far as smart phones but the combination of a strand brand like nokia globally if we look into the developing markets and the technology invasion could lead to interesting upside over the next three to five years. >> we can't talk about tech without bringing up apple. i know you've been recommending it for awhile now. the stock crossed over the 500-dollar mark briefly today. what do you think about apple at this point and the stock, as well? >> you do have the new ipad that's going to b

they are engineers at google and microsoft, and all very, very smart people. and when i first started this book and i said, i'm writing this book about danny lewin and tom, everybody would say, the first thing you think is oh, your writing -- tom, smartest i've ever met. this is coming from a ph.d at mit and a thinking should i read write about this person that even thinks is the smartest person they ever met? the wonderful thing about writing about all these people is that, tom is the professor and has been for so long, and he was really good at sitting down with me and explain what the company does and what danny wrote. and in layman's terms. and one of danny's best friends actually it was a marketer for the company, he didn't understand algorithms and he was someone hired to do all the algorithms for the company. he said my job was to explained when my grandmother could. so that was kind of my take for the book was if i can explain this in the way and, in a, i used basic analogies in the book like the pony express, that my grandmother could understand, then

businessmen to make their internet communications anonymous meanwhile several tech giants including google and microsoftre currently suing the u.s. for the right to disclose the scale of their cooperation with the agency. has more . in the wake of the u.s. national security agency scandal much of the tech industry has been critical of government snooping some companies named as partners in the n.s.a.'s prism program including google and facebook even sued the u.s. in order to set the record straight they're hoping to fight the perception that the n.s.a. has direct access to their servers but transparency might come with financial incentives the snowden leaks prompted dire warnings from internet giants predicting that american businesses would lose tens of billions of dollars in revenue abroad as scared users turn to local alternatives one industry nonprofit survey found that ten percent of two hundred seven officials at not american companies cancelled contracts in the wake of the leaks fifty six percent of non-u.s. respondents said they were hesitant to work with u.s. based cloud computing firms some r

>> their reliance on microsoft and cisco systems and concerns that they may be involved with the u.s., and we know that companies like googlend microsoft and apple and yahoo! and the major social networks have been providing information to the government, so that we know for sure. >> ok, hold that thought. we will be getting back to the second part of the debate in just a few moments right after this break. alright, thousands of tunisians take to the streets calling on the islamic led government to resign, this as dialogue is set to get underway. barack obama set to meet the pakistan prime minister for the first time, and the prime minister will likely bring up the thorny issue of drone strikes. and then newly blazes burning across new south wales, and they are encouraging vigilance. and russia drops piracy charges against greenpeace activists, charging them with cool again charges instead. and there are the latest. collecting data on political leaders, businesses, and before i go back to our guests, let's bring back in james, who has been doing some information gathering. what are they saying? >> they are picking up on som

to google glass. microsofts to supply cameras and other key components for eyewear prototypes. i have no idea what i just said. >>> coming up, before we get the september employment report, we're going to tell you what to expect. kevin hassett is the director of economic policies studies at the enterprise institute. and our guest host for the rest of the show is mark zandi. making his way to the set right now. the american dream is of a better future, a confident retirement. those dreams, there's just no way we're going to let them die. ♪ like they helped millions of others. by listening. planning. working one on one. that's what ameriprise financial does. that's what they can do with you. that's how ameriprise puts more within reach. ♪ >>> we are minutes away from the september jobs report. joining us now with a preview, our guest host for the rest of the show is mark zandi. i look at him, i get happy because i think it's friday. >> me too. >> wednesday -- well, because it's a jobs -- no, but we have to work t

program or even a private sector program, they all have their hiccups, just take a look at google and microsoft, and they will tell you about the hiccups going into the situation. but the real issue is how to get this economy going, how to get people back to work. and these continued cliffs, these crises actually hold back a very powerful race horse called the american economy. >> well, i agree with you, but let me ask you this, congressman, i presume you voted in favor of it, as well, right? >> of course. >> so you two reached a point of bipartisan consensus, why do we have a hand shake on this particular debate -- you see, it is possible. you can actually get along in washington. what an extraordinary spectacle, congressmen, thank you very much indeed. >> next, the president has the bill, any minute he will sign the bill and get the government open again. >> i want to thank the leadership for coming together and getting this done. hopefully next time it wouldn't be in the 11th hour. one of the things that i said throughout this process is we have to get out of the habit of governing by crisis

. >> let's bring in david auerbach, a software engineer who worked for google and microsoft and is a contributor to "slate" magazine. welcome to the program. how does the u.s. tap the private cell phone of the chancellor of germany? >> easily. it seems that angela merkel had some technology to encrypt her phone calls, but only working if the person on the other end had the same technology - as you can guess most of the people she talked to did not have the same technology. failing that and most signals were not encrypted, the information is going through the ether and is easy to pick up on it. >> does the u.s. have superiority when it comes to this technology or not? >> they have superiority to a nation like afghanistan. i wouldn't say they have superiority to china and russia >> and germany? >> i wouldn't say for this work, no. what they did in terms of tapping angela merkel's phone was not difficult. in terms of cracking encipion, they could well have superior... >> it's not just talking about tapping cellphones, we are talking about a vacuum cleaner that gobbles up huge amounts of

google is bp+ ibm, microsoft, samsung and intel.facebook is 67th best brand, jumping 43% from last year, amazon made a jump. some of the biggest falls come from tech companies as well. nintendo, hp and del. the fastest falling brand is cell phone maker, nokia. after a disappointing sales, nokia decidessed to sell-off the cellar business and dropped 65% according to inner brands rankings. one brand maybe to blame. >> catch more stories like this on the list, watch it weeknights at 7:00, followed by let's ask america here on abc 2. hersheys is offering the first new candy brand in 30 years, a line of soft caramel creams called lancaster. they will come in three pcaramel, vanilla and raspberry, it hits stores january 2014. >>> listen, we have got bad weather here. we are back in carroll county where the heavy rain turned in to rushing waters. plus investigators uncover new information in the death of a baby in a daycare. these stories and more, coming up new at 6:00. here is a preview of what is ahead on world news at 6:30. [ gasps ]

think historically what we've seen in the last couple of years is big tech companies like google and microsoftying top dollars and big prices for intellectual property. google bought motorola's ivenlg i.t. for $5 billion. they'll show they'll pay top dollar to protect themselves in court. >> if you're valuing this company as a patent portfolio, i think it's worth less than $4 billion. there has to be upside to convert the user base over or long-term profitability. as a purely patent play, it's not what the market shows today. >> that's the market. thank you. appreciate your time. >> i love the camera on this thing. >> it's a good camera. >> if you lose the phone, blackberry, at least let me still use the camera otherwise it will make a nice coaster. >> you won't use that camera if you don't use that as your -- >> i love the camera on this thing. i do. >> take a short break. 20 minutes before the closing bell sounds. the market worsens in the last half hour. 108 on the industrial average. >> the oracle of omaha has done it again. he's turned the financial crisis into a monetary windfall for his

there is not a chance in the world this would happen at apple, google or microsoft that somebody wouldn'tld be accountability. anyone who got paid by the taxpayers, whether it is those private contractors who got taxpayer money, whether it's the health agency personnel who got taxpayer money or members of congress who were responsible for the oversight of this plan, everyone should be accountable. the most important thing is making sure we fix the website, not fixate on the website. i hope no one is talking about shutting down somethingwith the health care website because we want to see those young people and older folks access good-quality health care. andrew striker, who is from los angeles, my city, 34 years of age, three hours to get on that website. but what he said is heñr saved $6,000 by getting on this website and getting a new policy. three hours? unacceptable. $6,000 saving? that's what you want to see. >> chris, let me point out one thing. this is a continuation of hearings that we have been doing at energy and commerce since march of 2011. we have had a dozen or so hearings th

. >> reporter: david is a tech giant who has worked for companies like microsoft and google. so in words of one sill boll what did they do or didn't do that made this website so unstable. >> anyone who is sure they have identified the single problem, may, even if they are in the government and work for one of these contractors, they may not know what lurks underneath. >> reporter: with three dozen states relying on the exchange to offer insurance, there is no time to lose. >> they need to look at every piece of the system divided up between many private and public corporations and segments of the government. a verify it individually and then verify that they work together. >> reporter: the problems exist, yet even with the glitches a poll found that 23% say they had no trouble logging on. that figure drops to 8% of those polled who identify themselves as against the policy. this has certainly been a troubled beginning for the president's signature policy. >>> dave warren has your weather forecast straight ahead. we'll show you why some residents of northeastern china might li

growing revenue they're expecting and also the fact that with the android operating system of google, that microsoftto benefit from some patent agreements there. so, good news, good news, good news, upgrades, good for you. >> okay. nicole, thanks indeed. i was momentarily distracted there. i've got news on the house g.o.p., the house republicans, they've got their own debt plan. it includes having the administration and members of ccngress get into obamacare. so, no exclusion for the administration and for congress from obamacare. income verification, you want to get on these exchanges and you want a subsidy, you've got to verify your income, that's what the house republicans want. what was that, a two year-- two year suspension of the medical device tax. sunday the government until january of next year, and the debt limit goes until february the 7th. okay. now, wrap that up together and what you've got is the house republicans plan for the debt. it's in contrast to the senate version of coming up with a fix for the debt and the budget, but it is the house republicans plan. it's just breaking now. w

these are the tickers, and stock twit puts it out like a dollar sign, micron, google and microsoft areee names they are watching right now. don't forget to follow this show, fbn countdown, and there's also an @cheryl can casone somewhere in there. 49 minutes to go until the closing bell, and dramatic new developments in the battle over blackberry's future today. we're talking to ledger about it a moment ago. the very latest on what could be a game-changing proposal from one of the company's founders. also, house republican leaders are heading to the white house this afternoon with a new proposal to break the debt ceiling deadlock. but will it do anything to end the gridlock in washington? we're going to get the views from former paypal ceo bill harris. this is a fox business exclusive, and it's coming up. ♪ ♪ sometimes they just drop in. always obvious. cme group can help you navigate risks ancapture opportities. enable you to reach glal markets and drive forward with broader possibilities. cme group: how the world advances. your financial advisor should focus on your long-tergoals, no

to search photos, emails, and documents from computers at apple, google, and microsoft, among many other internet sources. n.s.a. and the snoop and spy caucus say this spying on americans and our allies is necessary to catch the terrorists. they even claim terrorist attacks had been prevented. well, if this is true, show the evidence. evidence. prove it. where are the terrorists that have been thwarted by these surveillance tendenscies. even if it is true, which i doubt, it still violates the law. my opinion, it violates the patriot act. the patriot act doesn't allow for this nonsense. it violates the constitutional right of privacy, mr. speaker. it violates the fourth amendment. and the right of persons to be secure in their homes, papers, and effects without government intrusion. government cannot use the old soviet-style dragnet approach hoping to catch a big fish while also catching the emdangered species of freedom. those who argue otherwise say they must seize the whole haystack to finded needle in the haystack. mr. speaker, that is exactly what is prevented in the fourth amendment

like google earth, yahoo maps. microsoft. those are examples of on line mapping systems that can be used to find businesses or get driving directions or check on traffic conditions. all digital maps. >> gis is used in the city of san francisco to better support what departments do. >> you imagine all the various elements of a city including parcels and the critical infrastructure where the storm drains are. the city access like the traffic lights and fire hydrants. anything you is represent in a geo graphic space with be stored for retrieval and analysis. >> the department of public works they maintain what goes on in the right-of-way, looking to dig up the streets to put in a pipe. with the permit. with mapping you click on the map, click on the street and up will come up the nchgz that will help them make a decision. currently available is sf parcel the assessor's application. you can go to the assessor's website and bring up a map of san francisco you can search by address and get information about any place in san francis

my question a simple one why not use a smart, successful american company like apple, microsoft, google, one with a record of success? and why is it the biggest obama care contractor didn't start writing the software code until a few months ago. what does this woman simple sebelius do other than go on jon stewart? you and i would be fired for such incompetence. >> you're fired! >> but i didn't -- >> i got to fire you. >> i got fire you. >> you're fired >> you're fired. >> but, hey, hope springs eternal. there's good news for all of us. since the government is here to help us, if you can't sign on you'll make new friends with the irs. you know, the agency that doesn't target anyone who will now oversee the implementation of this miraculous health care law. the real shame is what it will do to our kids who are drowning in debt, our kids who now get to pay for this unholy obama care debacle. and coming up, did the obama administration make the shutdown more painful than it had to be? congressman trey gowdy on the hunt for answers. and two crime stories you can't make up. could parents of t

technology with all the new cables in the world if people keep believing that they can trust google facebook apple and microsoft then they will send all their lives to to the n.s.a. so of course it has to be a broader set of technological solutions and political solutions and also social solutions so does the u.s. president even have control over the n.s.a. in fact who is behind america's vast spying network some of the questions being discussed in today's edition of cross talk with people of well the next round of that coming up at eleven thirty g.m.t. don't emitted. what jay carney the president's spokesman said is that the president knew nothing about it however the n.s.a. is doing a great job what they're doing anyway so it really does raise some very troubling issues does the president have control over the n.s.a. does seem to know are was i mean even more seriously was this an operation approved under president george w. bush that's gone on and they've not bothered to inform the president the united states is being run by remote control by a group of corrupt companies and these companies want the n.s.a. t

think i would be sitting here now if a few years ago when i was putting money into microsoft i had put it into googlest be a foot taller. stuart: look what they did. charles: should have put up a 10-year chart. stuart: microsoft down, google straight up, and i am embarrassed. thank you for being here, everybody. connell: google, 85 was the ipo. the focus today, we will talk about that as well, but the focus is on the obamacare exchanges, insurance companies say they are getting flawed data making it impossible to handle the people. deep divisions on capitol hill. what else is new? there might be something new. why they might be a chance for real tax reform, the stories coming up. getting paid double. government workers are getting twice the pay now that the shutdown is over. what investors are supposed to be doing right now. the bull and bear argument for getting in stocks right now. coming up this hour on "markets now." ♪ connell: here we go. dagen: i have been reading about that.

google, facebook, and microsoft asked the department of justice for permission to disclose the quantity, and type of requests they received from government agencies. the judge says no. ruling that more details could violate surveillance laws and help terrorists. >>> continuing coverage of the stalemate in washington. this is a live picture of the u.s. capitol, where the blame game is in full swing. 48 hours after the partial shut down of the government. it has angered countless americans and put 800,000 on furlough. still no sign of compromise. >> national parks are closed, government office is shuttered, but no end to the partisan bickering over the health care law. the outcome of a white house meeting, involving top republicans and democrats. >> it seemed like a hopeful sign, meeting to try to end this stalemate. afterward, the acrimony seemed as bitter as ever. john boehner blamed the president, and senate democrats for lack of action. >> we sent four different proposals over to our democratic colleagues in the senate, they rejected all of them. >> reporter: democrats blame republica

technology with all the new cables in the world if people keep believing that they can trust google facebook apple and microsoft then they will send all their lives into to the n.s.a. so of course it has to be a broader set of technological solutions and political solutions and also social solutions to make citizens around the world understand that we must take back control of the infrastructure we must take back control of the communications of a personal data if we do not control the machines then the machines will control us and knows a lot of people are there agree with you very much the germy sentiment thank you very much from the internet liberties and digital rights advocacy group shaded now our website what do you think about all this. presumably different talk to pilots about a narrow escape on the outskirts of moscow we talk about that often but our web about the later the rest of it is pilots they manage to just in time as their experimental military helicopter came crashing down in a forest a lucky escape. hatch more pictures there is an artichoke and we got footage of the incident on with details.

google, yahoo!, facebook and microsoft asked for permission to discloss the quantities and type of question but details would violate surveillance laws and defended the nsa current policy to disclose the number of people targeted without giving specific details. a lawsuit against san jose police in the shooting death of a man has been thrown out of court. it was filed by the parents of daniel fam. he was mentally ill. police shot him after he slashed his brothers throat and refused to put down the knife. a federal judge ruled that police did not use excessive force. >>> a violent armed robbery at a habitat for humanity construction site in oakland. what police need to help catch the culprits. >> a crime was shocking to habitat for humanity and police. 1:30 yesterday the four men walked on the development and robbed the crew on-site. habitat for humanity is building 12 units and at the time the workers were there and confronted by the robbers. the group stole cell phones, wallets from the robbers, the descriptions were no more than race, age and weight. we need people to pay attention to shoes, facial h

microsoft, google and amazon released better earnings and investors cheered the results.cahn push his major stock for a buyback. look at the stock increases last week. tim cook for apple is in the spotlight. sales may rise slight. we should get clarity on the 5s and 55c have gone selling so a big day for apple tomorrow. no debt standoff and the fed wraps up a two day meeting on wednesday and highly unlikely to dial back the stimulus program that helped send stocks soaring this believe. people believe that the fed is flooding the zone until maybe march. the debt ceiling battle has increased the fed's hands. a surprising note last week that said instead of cutting its bond purchases the fed could increase them because the economy isn't doing as well the fed hoped for. the fed, the fed, is the story this week. interest rates paying on your credit card and car loan and housing so incredibly important. tomorrow is the one year anniversary of superstorm sandy devastating damage in the new york and new jersey area. remember the huge lines to get gas? this was so insulting to peo

on companies signing on as well now how does that work well in theory companies like google and yahoo and microsoft will adopt the the dark mail protocol and the people behind this company say well in three or four years maybe some of the bigger names will actually sign on it will be using our our infrastructure and their users will be able to send emails to one another that's the most secure it's ever been but are those companies necessarily going to sign on and that's a really difficult question because those companies right now are making all. their money off of their users now she mail is also for sending e-mails but if you're concerned about privacy it's absolutely horrible the reason these services are free is because syria able to cruise your content in target you with ads and sell it to third parties and make a book invading your privacy and that's exactly why it's free so are people going to actually pay for a service that's going to be maybe not as convenient as well i'm curious i mean how much should we expect something like that to be i mean price wise yeah there's actually a study from

securities, apple is expected to have 50% of the tablet with samsung, small players with google, amazon and microsoftaking up the rest. it's hard to know if that's correct because apple is the only major tablet maker that breaks out tablet united sales and revenue. one thing to keep in mind, one apple selling price for ipad was $437, nearly twice what competitors get with smaller tablets. also, the first ipad holiday season that will come with a year's worth of pent-up demand with the brand new ipad. apple unveiled three versions last year, one in the spring and two in the fall. we'll see what the market share picture looks like and the profit share, perhaps, when apple reports numbers in january, guys. back to you. >> thank you, jon. what else can we expect from the big apple event? whatever it s our next guest says the tablet market share is not the company's only problem. >> joining us is todd hazelton and todd wilhelm from tech crunch. >> tomorrow i think we'll see the ipad 5, the ipad mini 2, and it better come with retina display. i'd like to see them, enter lower price tablet market. i think t

." >>> today on cnbc we're highlighting some of america's favorite stocks like google, general electric, microsoft, johnson & johnson, widely held in investor portfolios. right now we're zeroing in on amazon. >> which, by the way, is up 30% year to date. outperforming the s&p 500. there's the chart. comparing the two. are investors buying amazon because it's a great company or because it's a great stock. joining us with their thoughts, jeff cox and cnbc contributor carol roth. welcome back. jeff, you'd sell amazon here, wouldn't you? >> yeah. you know, i would do what carl icahn just did with netflix. i wouldn't sell all my holdings in amazon. you want to talk about know when to hold them, know when to fold them and know when to walk away. it's 43 times cash flow. i mean, the valuation of this thing has really gone crazy. i just think you want to take that example of what icahn did. trim your sales a little bit, take some cash and step back and see where the company's going from here. >> carol, what's your take? >> i know jeff is speaking a lot of common sense, but you have to remember that the am

people jumping on and they can handle it, why the government wouldn't have gone to a google or, frankly, a microsoftme position. they could have figured this out. so that's good for google. i need to quickly get you on facebook, stocks skyrocketed yesterday but then the conference call came. were you on that call? >> yes. liz: was it zuckerberg who made the comments about teenager is and the ad situation? >> well, it was the cfo. this is interesting, i've been covering internet stocks for the last 15 years, this is the most unusual trading activity i've seen around the print. stock up 15%, down 4%, today up 20% here. it's a really interesting debate on that call. two things: teenage user engagement is starting to show signs of falling and secondly, oh, ad loads are being capped at where they are now. on the first issue, we've done a lot of survey work. i don't think there's any question of that there's risk of disengagement by younger people. it's very hard to be cool all the time, and especially with teenagers. that said, the massive amount of usage that's going on at facebook, and it continues to