he didn't have gorbachev. and steve, you've written quite a bit about how you say that gorbachev -- gorbachev's ambition was to reform. yeltsin's ambition was to gain power. and you paint a pretty ugly picture of yeltsin as a person who grabbed power and diminished the democracy and the reforms that gorbachev instituted and set up this kleptocracy. you call it a grafatization. clinton had a different leader to deal with, and that must have been a factor here. steve? jack? >> well, that certainly was, but the problem -- the problem during, in my opinion, during the clinton administration was, first of all, the decision to expand nato to the east without building a security system in which russia participated, at least in european security. therefore, we began to treat russia as a defeated country. whether we called it that or not. and then second, when we used nato to authorize an attack on serbia over kosovo without u.n. approval. now, this is -- these were the beginnings of the moves that set things up for th

gorbachev, jack? >> well, gorbachev, after the first two or three meetings, got the point and began to tell jokes himself. and the one that he would tell at times went back to the problems they had with their antialcohol campaign. the story is that this fellow is waiting in line for vodka. it's a long line. he waits half an hour. he waits 45 minutes. and finally, he said, i've had enough of this. i'm going over to the kremlin and shoot that fellow. so he goes off. half an hour later, he's back. and they said, well, did you shoot him? and he said oh, hell, no. the line there is longer than here. >> they really liked each other, but having read both jack's incredible book, i want to recommend this to everybody. it's called "reagan and gorbachev." i love it had. and steve cohen's hobook. steve, in your book, you make the case that gorbachev really wanted to come to an agreement. he felt a need. he wanted to reform the soviet union, and he knew he had to have peace with the west and that he wanted to be p

gorbachev, tear down this wall. this weekend on history book shelf, romesh ratnesar talks about a speech and president that ended the cold war. this is an hour. >> i do want to thank you. it's a real privilege to speak to you on the eve of the 20th anniversary of the fall of the berlin wall and particularly wonderful to be here in kansas city, which is such an appropriate setting, because it was just a couple of blocks from this building at kemper arena, many remember, ronald reagan gave a speech 30 years ago that in many ways helped catapult him to the white house. reigh. just conceded defeat republican ford at the general convention and maybe people in the room today remember that ford, then, summoned reagan down from the skybox to address the delegates on the floor. reagan initially said he didn't want to come down. he said it was someone else's night, but eventually the ovation brought him down to the floor and he spoke for six minutes entirely impromptu without notes and what he said captivated the room and muc

you know, gorbachev was a patriot. gorbachev gorbachev admired the early leaders of the soviet union and their ability to lift a poor country into the modern age. he believed that the soviet and socialist experiment should be saved. that's what he was trying to do. he believed it hl to be reformed. he believed that the country's priorities had gone completely out of whack spending something like 21% of gdp on defense spending. all of those thoughts he thought needed to be reined in and it was ultimately futile for the soviets to try to maintain their grip on eastern europe. so i believe that he -- he never intended for the soviet union to dissolve. he believed that perhaps if you shrunk the soviet empire and you reined it in and you -- you basically told the governments of eastern europe that the soviet union was no longer going to come to their defense if they faced some internal threat, that, that would be sort of manageable, a manageable way in which you could sustain the socialist experiment. you could mend it, not

both gorbachev and yeltsin withheld produce from the market. most people ate their primary meal of the day at their workplace. this was true of students. this was people at work. the black market was nourishing. about 35% of the population lived on the land where they grew their own food. most urban dwellers had a garden of their own where they went on the weekends and we all saw it. so this is just one of those canards that make those of us who are capitalists. it was just a big mess. gorbachev was trying to repair it. it was a sis thystem in transit. it remains an open question. the chinese did it very successfully. gorbachev tried to do it while he was democratizing the country. and the general view in russia today, that was his mistake. he should have done it the chinese way. and then maybe or maybe not open the hand. >> okay. who has a mike? here we go. >> mr. matlock. excuse me. for about 23 years i've wanted to say thank you to you. when i was 15, i was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer. and i made a wish. and the wish was to travel t

gorbachev had announced some liberalization as well. they were taking it and the polish were taking it and havlav and the czech republic were all starting to make moves towards liberalization, so it was all coming together. you throw that in with margaret thatcher's third term, the election, with the reagan speech. it was a coming together that was putting massive pressure on the so-called soviet union and all the states that they dominated, and under that gorbachev was trying to balance everything out. that's why i told the story about governor's island because it was all coming to bear on him, but you're absolutely right. those are some of the other parts that were so fundamental and so important to ultimately the wall coming down a year and a half later. thank you. >> the clip mentioned earlier that it was the citizens of germany that tore down the wall, but if that line hadn't been left in the speech, in your expert opinion, how do you think president reagan would have been remembered? >> i think he would have been remembered as som

gorbachev, tear down this wall. mr. gorbachev, open the gate. it didn't receive great coverage in america, but i think the american people understood that their forceful, direct president was about to have a major breakthrough. >> and it did have a tremendous impact certainly in the long run. in the immediate aftermath of it, what was the reaction in germany? and the united states? most of the reaction was that we were a little bit too belligerent, that we had maybe taken some steps to undermine gorbachev and his efforts at glasnost andpayer strikea, that we were on tender soil, but it fit in very much with the ronald reagan of the evil empire on the one hand, and on the other hand let's hold out some hope. if you look at the whole speech, it is one of hope and liberalization and trust and encouragement and standing together in this fight against totalitarianism. this is not supposed to, and wasn't what we thought a provocative speech but rather one that held out an olive branch. if you truly want liberalization, if you're truly serious, it's no

gorbachev, open this gate! [ cheers and applause ] mr. gorbachev, mr.orbachev, tear down this wall! [ cheers and applause ] i understand the fear of war and the pain of division that afflict this continent and i pledge to you my country's efforts to help overcome these burdens. to be sure, we in the west must resist soviet expansion. so, we must maintain defenses of unassailable strength. yet, we seek peace. so, we must strive to reduce arms on both sides. beginning ten years ago, the soviets challenged the western alliance with a grave new threat, hundreds of new and more deadly ss-20 nuclear missiles capable of striking every capital in europe. the western alliance responded counterdeployment. unless the soviets agree to negotiate a better solution, namely the elimination of such weapons on both sides, for many months, the soviets refused to bargain in earnestness. as the alliance, in turn, prepared to go forward with its counterdeployment, there were difficult days, days of protests, like those during my 1982 visit to this city. and the soviets later

during the meeting he express his support for gorbachev's restructuring initiative and other reformsock. >> i wanted to do it on a ship thinking back to the days roosevelt did that kind of thing. we planned to go over to their cruiser and they were going to come back to our cruiser and we were going to have exchange visits but the seas were so rough gorbachev wouldn't come out to our ship. >> no agreements were signed but they struck a cooperative tone which would lead some to believe this sea board summit defined the end of the cold war. following his russian sum miftz on the verge of another foreign policy challenge removal of man well another ying ga. >> there was an election he stole the election. interestingly enough president carter went down there supervising the election and said it was part of the election. we decided had to get rid of noryega. we did use force. by the time that happened the president called all of the leaders of latin america the first military move he would make. >> the foreign policy team repeatedly faced explosive situations around the world. they needed

gorbachev, open this gate. [cheers and applause] mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. megyn: what lessons can be learned from that? michael reagan, is a political consultant and chairman of the reagan group and your father's relationship with mikhail gorbachev has become the stuff of history books. as we look today at the current relationship between the american and russian presidents put in perspective for us historically. >> well, historically, you know, the russians always respect strength what you had going on yesterday, you had one president there dealing from a deck of cards that was basically a very weak hand. another president sitting there with a very strong hand. putin with the strong hand, our president with a weak hand. when ronald reagan sat down with mikhail gorbachev back in the '80s he sat down with a very strong hand. he had "star wars" going for him. he was working to undermined the currency, the ruble in russia. he was very strong not only with his rhetoric to you and me but also with mikhail gorbachev. mikhail gorbachev believed him when he said i'

gorbachev, open this gate. [ applause ] mr.c: another great american president, another great american patriot. >> andrea: speaking of patriots. great segue, not at all. you probably have heard about the story, middleborough, massachusetts, imposed a $20 swearing fine for anyone who swears in public. so i decided to do a little face time with "the five" and i hit the streets of a city that seemingly is terminally struck with terret's syndrome. here is what they said about a similar been a coming here. how do you think it would go over in the big apple? >> [bleep] >> if nobody cursed in new york, you would not hear a word. it's taking away people's independence, their freedom, freedom of speech. >> what i can tell, everybody cusss here. >> pay a $1 for every time i cussed he would be a millionaire. >> if i stubbed my toe, i am going to use the "f" word. >> it won't go over well at all. it's [bleep]. >> [bleep] >> we have the right to free speech. we should be able to say whatever the [bleep] we want. >> andrea: by the way, while

allies gorbachev's perestroika led to a huge economic and political crisis resulted in the collapse of the largest country in the world the final decision was made in december of ninety ninety one during one of the russia supreme council sessions conservative nationalists or poor it was one of the pew people's deputies to vote against the soviets dissolution in the new russian state staunchly opposed the new government and many of its reforms mr butler it created several political parties and was elected to parliament three times. though mr boren and welcome to the show. on june to twelve so we celebrate russia today commemorating russia's state sovereignty declaration that you were a member of parliament back then the very problem and adopted the declaration declared as what was the essence of the declaration that as soon as the time and why is that today's russians often referred to june twelfth as the dependence day. but i wasn't just a member of parliament i was one of the people who are rude the declaration and from where i'm standing so bring independence teacher or even russia d

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gorbachev the human being and the fate of the policy he's promoting. he certainly is a very intelligent person. he makes a very good impression. that's why he's so attractive he stands in such contrast to those who proceeded him. his policies which are based on two russian words which have come to be well known. are designed to promote a reform of a system that he recognizes has become stagnant and uncreative. my own judgment regarding his policies which i try to express in the book is that first of all there has been much more -- meaning they talk much more and they ventilate issues much more openly than they ever have, but reforming the system has proven to be very difficult. my own expectation is he will not succeed in creating a spontaneously self-energizing, increasingly pluralistic or generally open soviet union. that there are too many contradictions, legacies of the past within the soviet system to make that kind of success possible. his major historical significance will be that he will have dismantled stalinism, probably not dismantled lenini

gorbachev, open this gate. [ cheers and applause ] mr.orbachev, tear down this wall. >> reporter: it's no coincidence the president is challenging the soviet union on human rights at the same time the two sides are making progress on arms control. the berlin wall didn't fall for another two years, but reagan's speech was a rallying cry. it also came at a time when the president's popularity at home had dropped as a result of the iran contra scandal. but later in 1987, the u.s. and the soviets did sign a treaty eliminating a whole class of intermediate-range nuclear weapons. historian douglas brinkley says there is a lesson in rag yoon's boldness. >> don't listen to polls and talk from the heart. "tear down the wall," if it was polled, would not have been seen as the smart speech, but reagan was a longtime anti-soviet hawk. he felt that's what he needed to say in berlin and he did it and let the consequences be damned. >> reporter: if president obama has a second term, brinkley says president reagan's example to inspire him to be audacious

gorbachev, open this the gate. mr.n this wall. >> probably one of the most famous lines uttered by an american president in the 20th century. daily flashback to this day in 1987 when president reagan stood in front of the berlin gate and issued that famous challenge to gorbachev. >>> well, could this be the year of the so-called walmart moms, the women and the shoppers that are feeling the brunt of the sluggish economy? that's what a pair of democratic and republican pollsters are finding. my tuesday panel, "roll call's" cheryl, and alfonzo of the latino partnership for conservative principles, welcome all. senator, i'm going to start with you, since we call them walmart moms, you represented the state where walmart is headquartered -- >> and i shop at walmart and costco. >> charlie quick wrote about this focus group and here's what he said. he said, "there was a split between those who thought that president obama had his chance to turn things around and those who hesitated about changing presidents when things were s

gorbachev, tear down this wall. >> sunday night at 9 eastern -- 9:00 p.m.tern, mark the 25th anniversary of president ronald reagan's speech from the brandenburg gate in west germany. also, our series about 14 key political figures who ran for president and lost but changed political history. this sunday at 7:30 p.m., james blaine. this weekend on c-span3. >> the house of representatives reconvenes for business at noon. members are expected to vote on spending for moderate energy programs. on c-span2, from the senate meets at 9:30 a.m. eastern to debate on the 2013 farm bill. on c-span3, the senate banking committee hearing on financial regulation and the trading loss jpmorgan.t next, "washington journal" with headlines and your phone calls. at 7:45 a.m., we are joined by mick mulvaney. we will talk about the economy and jobs with senator

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gorbachev, tear down this wall! at 9:00 eastern and pacific, on american history tv, mark the 25th anniversary of president ronald reagan's 1987 speech from the brandenburg gate in west germany. also this weekend on c-span 3, our series, "the contenders," 14 key political figures who ran for president and lost, but changed political history. this sunday at 7:30, james blaine, american history tv, this weekend on c-span 3. >>> the house homeland security subcommittee on transportation security held a hearing today on tsa improvement in security and customer service. chairman mike rogers of alabama says the department is bloated. and administrator john pistol testified about steps taken to make the agency more efficient. this is about an hour, twenty five minutes. [ banging gavel ] >> this hearing of the committee of homeland security subcommittee on transportation security will come to order. the subcommittee is meeting today to examine efforts to fix its poor customer service reputation and become a leaner, smarter

. >> i haven't watched >> my gorbachev >> thanks lyndsey -- my gosh,. >>> thanks lyndsey, back here tonightt 10 [ obama ] i'm barack obama and i approve this message. [ male announcer ] it started like this... i speak the language of business. i know how jobs are created. [ male announcer ] but it ended like this. one of the worst economic records in the country. when mitt romney was governor, massachusetts lost 40,000 manufacturing jobs. a rate twice the national average. and fell to forty-seventh in job creation. fourth from the bottom. instead of hiring workers from his own state, romney outsourced call center jobs to india. he cut taxes for millionaires like himself... while raising them on the middle class... and left the state two point six billion deeper in debt.

gorbachev, tear down this wall. >> 25 years ago today, june 12th, 1987, president ronald reagan mades historic speech in front of the berlin wall. those six words became a rallying cry for the end of the cold war. the wall itself didn't come down for another two years. >>> in the u.s., a freezer at a brain bank affiliated with harvard has malfunctioned. it contains the world's largest collection of autistic brain samples. officials say it failed last month, damaging about a third of the specimens, which may now not be suitable for research. the loss could delay for years breakthrough in autism research. >>> "cbs money watch" time now. apple unveils some new iphone tricks. and do you live in one of the world's most expensive cities? if you're in new york, it sure feels like it. erica ferrari here in new york with that report. erica, good morning. >> good morning. the confidence investors felt about spain's bank bailout has evaporated. tokyo's nikkei dropped 1%. hong kong's hang seng fell 0.5%. on wall street, early gains were wiped out as worries about europe's debt crisis resurfaced.

gorbachev, tear down this wall. it eventually did come down, just over two years later. >>> talk about your sign of the times, the nobel foundation has cut back the money they give out with the nobel prize by 20%. turns out, like so many people around the world, they got caught in some bad investments. still, the prize will come out with a check of just over a million dollars. >>> doc emrick had the call last night. >> the kings are the kings. >> the kings are the kings. there were broken hearts across jersey. but jubilation in l.a., as the kings beat the devils handily to take the stanley cup and hold it aloft on home ice last night in l.a. >>> up next, 41 turning 88. and talking about the big event and life these days with his granddaughter jenna. >>> our former presidents tend to be beloved figures in this country. we're with lucky to have four of them alive today. and the senior man among them is turning 88. george h.w. bush, 41, has slowed down a bit, his legs give him trouble. but he still has plans to sky div

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gorbachev, tear down this wall." next week, romesh talks about his book, "tear down this wall." history bookshelf airs three times each weekend on american history tv, including saturday at noon eastern. >>> this year, c-span's local content vehicles are traveling the country, exploring american history. next, a look at our recent visit to wichita, kansas. you're watching american history tv. all weekend, every weekend. on c-span 3. >> i am not now the authorized spokesman for congress, but i did occupy that position. and that was the period of the great rise of the labor movement in the midst of which the communists played an honorable and effective part in and won a certain degree of influence in america. that influence has always been exerted toward actively solidifying the labor movement. communists do not control any labor unions. and do not want control. especially during the war. the communists made an indispensable contribution in showing and practice how the full defense of labor's rights could be combined with the most complete support of the war effort. >> what we're

gorbachev, tear down this wall. [ applause ] >> sunday night at 9:00 eastern and pacific, on american history tv, mark the 25th anniversary of president ronald reagan's 1987 speech from the brandenburg gate in west germany. also this weekend on c-span3, our series, the contenders. 14 key political figures who ran for president and lost, but changed political history. this sunday at 7:30, james blaine, american history tv, this weekend on c-span3. >>> media organization executives are citing progress in their dispute with the labor department over its plan to acquire news organizations to use government computers to file stories on jobs data. reuters and bloomberg news use special equipment in the labor equipment that sends the information directly to subscribers as soon as the data is released. media officials testified before the house oversight and government reform committee. this portion of the hearing is about an hour. [ gavel ] >>> good morning. the oversight committee will come to order. we in the oversight committee exists to secure two fundamental principling. first, american

gorbachev, chatear down this wall. >> sunday night on american history tv, mark the 25th anniversary of president ronald reagan's 1987 speech from the brandenburg gate in west germany. also this weekend on c-span3, our series the contenders. 14 key political figures who ran for president and lost, but changed political history. this sunday at 7:30, james blaine, american history tv, this weekend on c-span3. >>> remarks now from commerce secretary bryson on the ocean's role and the u.s. economy. >>> good morning, everybody. welcome to the 12th annual capitol hill ocean week. it's wonderful to see many familiar faces. it's equally wonderful to see many unfamiliar faces. capitol hill ocean week has grown over the years. i want to invote those joining us for the first time. my name is jason patless, president of the foundation. to kick off the month, president barack obama officially declared june at national oceans month the other day and as he seems to do year in and year out he once again foreshadowed a lot of the things that we will be discussing over the next few days. in his procla

gorbachev, tear down this wall. [ cheers and applause ] >> sunday night at 9:00 eastern and pacific on american history twv, the ronald reagan speech from germany. also this week on c-span3 our series the contenders, 14 key political figures who ran for pled and lost but changed political history. this sunday at 7:30, james blaine, american history tv, this weekend on c-span3. >>> the senate foreign relations committee held a confirmation hearing for president obama's nominee for ambassador to iraq today. bret mckirk serve and the national security councilal staff under president bush and president obama and talked about his extensive diplomacy efforts in iraq. joined by others. pennsylvania senator bob casey fills in for chairman john kerry during this 90-minute hearing. >> good morning. today the senate foreign relations committee meets to consider the president's nominees to serve as ambassador to the following countries. iraq, sri lanka, the maldives and tajikistan. i want to thank you for discussing challenges in these countries and obviously to discuss each nominee's work as well

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gorbachev, tear down this wall. >> sunday night at 9:00 eastern and pacific on american history tv, mark the 25th anniversary of president ronald reagan's 1987 speech from the brandenburg in germany. our series "the contenders." 14 key political figures who ran for president and lost but changed political history. this sunday james blaine, american history tv this weekend on c-span3. >>> they're often referred it to as the conscience of the congress. having worked there almost two years, i can't think of a better name. it is really the heart of the people. >> executive direct or and general counsel of the black caucus, angela rye on the role of the black caucus. >> it is designed to make sure members of congress, who are african-american, can come together on issues plaguing the community at-large, issues that maying plaguing their districts where they can find commonality, to discuss legislative solutions, proposals to advance the causes of people who don't have a voice. >> more with angela rye on c-span. >>> coming up thursday morning on c-span3, federal reserve chairman ben bernanke.