gorbachev related know-how to waste money. it was a great figure, a great political figure in history. he would form the ussr, destroy the u.s. as our in the process of reforming it. as an economic manager, he was really quite appallingly inept. the leaders didn't always help the process along as well as they might have done. thatcher, having welcome the accession to power of gorbachev and started to regarded as a dangerous enemy. it was only in the middle of 1987 that thatcher had any time for gorbachev et al. in the early period of the rapprochement between america and the u.s. as our, the preeminent leadership was in washington. this was very striking to me when looking at the french records and the british records. and to the extent that the germans played a cardinal role, it was mainly as we now can see because they were very close with washington kentucky kirby but all the steps they took in 1989 and 1990 towards german reunification. so i think europeans have tended to over play their role when they wrote their memoirs.

gorbachev, tear down this wall. getting beyond that important speech he delivered and how significant it was in terms of reagan's approach to the cold war, the fall of the berlin wall, and the demise of the soviet union. >> it is an important day, of course. there was no operational policy that flowed from it in the reagan administration. that is to say they didn't follow up by coming up with a policy for how to bring down the wall approximately and the basic tenor in reagan's conversations toward the end of his administration is maybe this is something that could happen in several decades. to give another example about the berlin wall, i met him in november that henry kissinger said to him in november of 1988 that he thought maybe -- the biggest thing that would happen on his watch would be the very gradual start of a very gradual diminution of control. and the wall might come down sometime in the next few decades. and of course it happens within a year. and it wasn't because reagan said tear down this wall. when i

gorbachev, tear down this wall. but get beyond that important speech and have significant it was to the 10 year period you you just talk about in terms of his approach to the cold war and the fall of the soviet union. james graham wilson: at the end of the day, there was no operational policy that flowed from it in the reagan administration. that is to say they did not follow up my coming up with a policy for how to bring down the wall. the basic tenor in reagan's conversation towards the end of his administration was that maybe this was something that could happen in several decades. to give another example about the berlin wall, he said to me that henry kissinger said to him in november of 1988 that what would have been on his watch was the very gradual start of a very gradual diminishing of soviet control. the wall might come down within the next two decades. it happens within a year and not because reagan said to tear down the wall. when it came down that night it was not because gorbachev gave a specific order.

all this happened, and that set the stage for gorbachev.t i think when you talk about shevardnadze, you're right, my wife and i said he's a new foreign minister, we'll have lots to argue about but at least we got to the human relationship with them. so the first time they were meeting we went out of our way to see that they were included in social event and introduced around to someone, work on things that way. >> i think that was very important to him, shevardnadze. i think about it appreciated that. spent we went a little incident. sometimes or always wondering what's the relationship between shevardnadze and gorbachev. shevardnadze commits, is that including gorbachev? >> i think speed let me tell my story. >> soy. i thought you were asking a question. we have the first summit meeting in geneva, and which often put into place a program making it hard to get -- [inaudible] so the dinner was at the soviet place and we're sitting around, about 10 of us and a guy comes around with vodka and he does all the shot glasses with vodka. and shevar

to make the changes in but gorbachev had serious problems at home. hard-liners looking for an excuse to stop the changes they did not agree with. and bush understood this. i remember this scene the day the berlin wall came down. i went into a small office to give him the news with cisco craft -- scowcroft so we arrange for a little press meeting in the oval office but not a full-blown news conference. as the press came they were scrambling for george bush to be cheering up the for the collapse of the berlin wall. as usual there were obnoxious about trying to say he did not understand the importance of what was happening. but bush had the self discipline how much he believed this to be good for the world but never once in such a way to embarrass gorbachev to give them an excuse you know, that politician to take credit for the collapse of the berlin wall. the second incident doesn't seem like a great deal but they truly believe of the most significant moments in his administration imposed a vietnam. we had gone through a presentation by colin powell of

gorbachev was this was not brought to the level.hethe strong will for change was benefiting your own people. it could've benefited every family. the economy was not working. in china in the same situation they made wise decisions to start with the economy and infighting. charlie: you made a commitment to build here in the had an architect who built the ,oundation and then you decided you saw a building you like to so much, well, toronto. valery gergiev: i was never thinking of building a new concert house or concert hall and we have both and now. thinking, the only one advantage i have over everybody is i love music and they do, too. as a leader, i have to prove i can work hard. and they would have to work, perhaps prepare. then we will expand and have quality and international recognition which followed very quickly in 1988. orchestra as then it was famous in any case. parise seen in london or and maybe two years later, the met. in 1992 our first arrival in new york. infirst time in america 1990. 25 years since i came the first tim

gorbachev brought well known changes.ome of the most unexpected came to artistic institutions but also factories, plants. the economy was stagnating, maybe collapsing. but in 1988, the minister of culture coming from moscow, talking to orchestra, the ballet, opera company in leningrad, telling them, we made a decision, this is a man or woman appointed by the village in the country was no longer accepted. the real change gorbachev brought to this country is people started to feel they mean a lot. people started to feel they are professionals, they have their opinion, they should express their opinion and they should insist that their opinions be heard and respected. >> rose: being the dictator of the state. >> correct, and when you say the state, you obviously speak about 100, 500 or maybe 1,000 people who think they make all the decisions, but gorbachev brought this important change. i know him very well. we are friends. >> rose: he lives in moscow? he lives in moscow, he is maybe not so well because of his age. i was con

the real change gorbachev brought.eople started to feel they meant a lot, people started to feel they were professionals with their own opinion that should the expressed. they should insist that their opinion is heard. charlie: not just the dictator of the state. valery: when you say the state, you can speak of 100, 500, maybe 1000 people who think they make all decisions. but gorbachev brought this important change. i know him very well. we're friends. charlie: he lives in moscow. valery: he is maybe not so well for his age. i was conducting a big concert in london celebrating his 80th birthday. i was doing it with the london symphony orchestra. he brought historical changes not only to this country but to the world. charlie: the history of music, is interesting. chavinsky, composers who worked here. wagner. there is a link to music, great music of our times. valery: enormous. the history here is really big. well-known, but i think it is important. great russian composers. all over the world, all of the time. musosky

gorbachev said no. regularans got up and walked away from the table. had reagan not left, would the berlin wall have collapsed? would the soviet union collapsed? peace without freedom is meaningless. a little sidenote. realize call -- do you what our current president barack obama has in common with jimmy carter? both those presidents won the nobel peace price. reagan did not, but he brought more freedom. the fourth peace of advice would come from reagan. he would tell us, seek the truth about our enemies and ourselves. we can't be afraid to call the enemy what it is -- radical islamic terrorism. we also can't be afraid to say the truth about america. we are exceptional and we are the force for good in the world. as reagan said at the institute of national affairs in london, when free people cease telling the people about and to yr adversaries, they cease telling the truth to themselves. in matters of state, unless the truth be spoken, it ceases to exist. and the last bit of advice lincoln would tell us, don't put off tough decisions for future generat

finally gorbachev they got together. when he came to town i was jumping on the sidewalk. this is much bigger. >> gorbachev you will remember, though, also credited pope john paul ii with ending the cold war. i think that one of the things we have already seen is the pope start to wade into the political. the speech at the white house hit several political notes that are likely to divide many people that he is speaking to tomorrow in congress. the reality is popes do have a long history of impacting world affairs in a significant way. i think we have seen this pope step on to that stage. >> how many divisions does the pope have? he has different kinds of powers as we know. thank you for joining us. great to have you there. she is very patient to wait this out. i love that scene. up next donald trump takes his most famous issue off the table. why is this gop front runner refusing to talk birtherism now? i think he needs to answer the question. if you don't accept the legitimacy of the president you shouldn't be the next president. you are watching "hardball," place for poli

president, imagine if 47 senators during the course of ronald reagan's negotiation with gorbachev, if 47 senators had written in the middle of those negotiations to mr. gorbachev and said, ignore president build ronald reagan, don't negotiate with him because we're not going to accept it here in congress. there would have been cries of treason for sending that kind of letter. it didn't happen. those were the days when there was a bipartisan approach to foreign policy in the united states. so today we have a chance and an opportunity with iran what hasn't presented itself for more than 30 years. the opportunity to prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons. it's not going to solve all the problems with iran overnight but it does solvable one critical one -- the agreement retains u.s. freedom of action to counter iran any part of the world. after all, ronald reagan didn't stop trying to counter soviet actions after negotiating an arms treaty with gorbachev. president obama will not and should not stop working to if diminish iran's influence after this agreement. mr. president, i'm und

gorbachev and said ignore president ronald reagan. don't negotiate with him because we are not going to accept it hearing congress. they would have been -- there would have been cries of treason. it didn't happen. those were the days when there was a bipartisan approach to foreign policy in the united states. so today, we have a chance and an opportunity with iran that hasn't presented itself for more than 30 years. it is not going to solve all those with iran overnight, but it does solve, i believe, one critical one. the agreement retains u.s. freemen of actions to -- didn'tll, ronald reagan stop tying to cover soviet actions after negotiating an arms treaty. president all of our -- president obama should not stop working to diminish iran's influence after this agreement. i am under no illusions that for some time, i landed pursue a nuclear bomb. i am under no illusions that iran in the past about these efforts. i know they did. but the agreement reached last week provides unprecedented safeguards to prevent iran from building nuclea

gosh shaff said no -- gorbachev said no. so that's a defining moment, not for that man but for this world, and ronald reagan got up and walked away. some people criticized on political basis, but i ask you this -- would the soviet union have collapsed with the berlin -- or the berlin wall collapsed at the time it did had reagan kept his firm and word for a better deal? peace without freedom is meaningless. this deal does not bring greater freedom to the world. it brings a nuclear missile race. this is not just about america, iran or a few other countries. no country in the middle east will sit back after this action . the world will not be safer. we will not be freer, but there's still an opportunity. history has shown if we're willing to stand up, take a step back and get a better agreement, we can have peace and freedom. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california yields back. the gentleman from california reserves. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. conyers: mr. speaker, how much time

when he is in iceland with gorbachev. he sits down and pretty much gets almost everything he asks more. gorbachev asked for the one last item, to end the research of fbi. reagan said no but offered him something more, a share. gorbachev said no. reagan got up and walked away from the table. left, with the berlin wall have collapsed, with the soviet union have collapsed? peace without freedom is meaningless. a little side note. do you realize what the current president barack obama has? those two presidents both won prize.el peace reagan did not, what brought people freedom. reagan would say, speak the truth about our enemies and ourselves. we cannot be afraid to call the enemy what it is. radical, islamic terrorism. we also cannot be afraid to say the truth about america. we are exceptional. we are the force for good in the world. as reagan said at the world institute of national affairs and london, when three people cease telling the truth about, and to their adversaries, they cease telling the truth to themselves. , unl

you could make a really good case that kruschev, brezhnev, gorbachev, and i probably missed an interim one somewhere between those three, were more rational human beings. >> two. >> i can't remember their names, but are more rational human beings than the clowns running iran. we are dealing with lunatics. to get to glen's question, what is president obama after when it comes to this? i think maybe not destroying the state of israel but i think eliminating it as a power, as anything of significance is probably his end game that there is a deep-seated leftist thought that israel is the root of all evil in the middle east. and if you got rid of israel sort of as a power. if you turned the country into something less of what it is with a jewish identity, that, you know, everything would be okay. >> i do know the u.n. is going to be flying the palestinian flag. now, look, whatever flag they agree on and all. i'm just saying you can see, dagen, and the fear that comes out here that, wait a minute, this world could be turning in a way that's anti-free people. >> right, because this iran deal

. >> in november, the former leader mick highly gorbachev weighed in, saying the expansion of n.a.t.o., and war in the middle east contributed to the collapse of trust between russia and the west. >> the world is on the brink of a new cold war. some are saying that it has already begun. >> the stakes of the cold war are about more than just territory and influence. it's about money. battles are fought. the arctic is home to a third of oil and a third of gas. eight nations lay claim to the fast-melting landscape, including russia, canada and the united states. they, alongside china are all pursuing now matters. >> they have been fuelled by hydrocarbons from the subarctic. they need more hydrocarbons to come out of the arctic. >> in 2007 russia staked a claim to billions worth of arctic oil and gas. two submarines planted a tit an yam russian flag on the floor under the north pole. canada and the u.s. scoffed, comparing russia's play to a 15th century land grab. but the move underscores the importance of region. to get a look i headed north, way north, to the northern most town in the w

this is not reagan and gorbachev or the clinton and yeltsin. >> this is not the vlad and barack show. >> no. they are very blunt and direct with one another. >> putin sees every rivalry as a sports match. >> he always shows himself as the macho man. a strong man. he sees weakness and seizes on it. >> he sees weakness. just a handle of rebels trained at huge cost and isis rangs ranks growing. >> in the race for the white house, donald trump is getting specific about his long awaited tax plan. he's pledging tax relief for the middle class. but some say his plan is a gift for the wealthy. >> in the lobby of his manhattan skyscraper, donald trump got down to details. >> this is going to cost me a fortune. >> campaign says would get rid of income tax for millions of americans while lowering rates for the rich. under the plan individuals making less than 25 grand and married couples making less than 50 would pay no income tax. the highest tax rate would drop from 39.6 to 25%. and state taxes would be eliminated. businesses would pay 15%. and overseas profits would be taxed one time at the r

russia with a group of people called elders and there were six of us and we met with former president gorbachev and then we met with clever putin in a private place where he lives and we discussed all of the issues that he now has on the agenda with president obama and other leaders around the world. and one of the things that i am not going to go into detail about, he was saying how much he has been working with the opposition and what he hoped to see develop was an arrangement whereby russia and the united states respond to just three other countries. one would be iran and the other would be saudi arabia. and the third would be turkey. so if you think about the geography, that is a wise decision and they can agree on the future for syria that would be most likely to be accepted by other countries and i said, that is a good idea, what does obama say when you visit him. [inaudible] and that includes meeting with vladimir putin to explore that idea. we need to get on the same side whenever we possibly can with russia and also with china to promote peace in the world in harmony. as well as econom

quickly in part because east germany was collapsing, but also because the west germans realized that gorbachevnd chevron ozzie might not -- and shattered not see -- might not stay in power very long. i think they moved much too quickly and as a result there was a high cost to pay. the point that many people are making is that it has taken at least 15 years for germany to really be unified. only now after the troubles that were -- at least 25 years for germany to be really unified. only now after the troubles that occurred are we going to see what germany will look like in the next 20 to 30 years. sarah: for those who do not think it was such a great thing, many feel it cost so much money and a lot of people say this not even up to scale right now. that there is still work to be done. sarah: i think that is -->> i think that is right. part of the problem is that there was a desire to bring west german state is to the east -- to the east germans too quickly. and a lot of the advantages that they had in terms of the wages, for example, were not there. and so they just kept moving east and went to

this is not reagan and gorbachev or clinton and yeltsin. this is not the vled and barak show. >> no, it's a business relationship. they've spoken on the phone and are blunt and direct with one another. >> reporter: putin watchers say he sees every rivalry as a sports match, a contest he must win. >> putin shows himself as a macho man. he's a strong man. he sees weakness and seizes on it. >> reporter: on the u.s. policy in syria, he sees weakness. just a handful of rebels trained at huge cost and isis ranks growing. when asked on "60 minutes" whether he thinks obama considers him an equal -- >> translator: well, you ask him. he's your president. how could i know what he thinks? >> reporter: there are consequences to their bad relationship. the syrian war and the refugees fleeing from it is the biggest humanitarian disaster since world war ii, and it's dragged on this long because russia and

this is not reagan and gorbachev or clinton and yeltsin.his is not the vlad and barack show. >> no, it's a business relationship. they've spoken on the phone and are blunt and direct with one another. >> reporter: putin watchers say he sees every rivalry as a sports match, a contest he must win. >> putin shows himself as a macho man. he's a strong man. he sees weakness and seizes on it. >> reporter: on the u.s. policy in syria, he sees weakness. just a handful of rebels trained at huge cost and isis ranks growing. when asked on "60 minutes" whether he thinks obama considers him an equal -- >> translator: well, you ask him. he's your president. how could i know what he thinks? >> reporter: there are consequences to their bad relationship. the syrian war and the refugees fleeing from it is the biggest humanitarian disaster since world war ii, and it's dragged on this long because russia and the united states cannot agree on how to end it. lester? >> andrea mitchell, thank you. >>> he's been accused of being heavy on bluster and light on polic

gosh shaff said no -- gorbachev said no. so that's a defining moment, not for that man but for this world, and ronald reagan got up and walked away. some people criticized on political basis, but i ask you this -- would the soviet union have collapsed with the berlin -- or the berlin wall collapsed at the time it did had reagan kept his firm and word for a better deal? peace without freedom is meaningless. this deal does not bring greater freedom to the world. it brings a nuclear missile race. this is not just about america, iran or a few other countries. no country in the middle east will sit back after this action . the world will not be safer. we will not be freer, but there's still an opportunity. history has shown if we're willing to stand up, take a step back and get a better agreement, we can have peace and freedom. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california yields back. the gentleman from california reserves. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. conyers: mr. speaker, how much time

this is not reagan and gorbachev. or clinton and yeltsin. this is not the vlad and barack show? >> no, it's not. it's a very business-like relationship. they've spoken on the phone over the course of those last few years and they're very blunt and direct with one another. >> reporter: putin sees every rivalry as a sports match, a contest he must win. >> putin always shows himself as a marcher man. he's a strong man. he sees weakness and he seizes on it. >> reporter: in the u.s. policy on syria he sees weakness. just a handful of rebels trained at huge cost. and isis ranks growing. >> that was innocence's andrea mitchell reporting. >>> republican infighting grows as lawmakers on capitol hill have just two days left to come up with a spending plan that would avert a government shutdown. meanwhile, house republicans will meet behind closed doors today to discuss their future in the wake of speaker john boehner's sudden resignation. also this morning, planned parenthood's cecil richards will be on capitol hill to testify before the house oversight committee over the use of aborted f

refusing to talk to putin and be befrenged putin or gritting our teeth and treating him like mikhail gorbachev? there were a lot of options for republican voters to choose. and where that all sorts out is going to be hard to tell. because there were so many. you kind of get lost in the confusion. gwen: one of the options is the optionings the democrats are struggling with which is do you want another bush or another clinton? that's the one that rand paul actually sees. let's listen to what he said. >> there will always be a bush or clinton for you if you want to go back to war in iraq. the first war was a mistake and i'm not sending our sons and our daughters back to iraq. gwen: well, you heard donald trump, i think, say that he wouldn't have supported the war in iraq. and you -- ben carson. say it. and you also had rand paul say it. but you have other hawks in the party. >> you do. and rand paul has sort of been struggling with being the libertarian that his dad was. and also acceptable to the establishment wing of the party. and he's tried to figure out his way to navigate those two wings. a

russ: when gorbachev visited, we had a look alike, he had him standing in front of the building, the motorcade went by, the car screeched to a halt, it was funny. steve: wow. >> the russian mission is just here it was funny. russ: i digress tomorrow, just as nice. nick: all computer door evens and -- all out door events, no problem, a beautiful day, sunshine coming up, cooler, it goes to hit low 80s in area, warmer. 60 low this morning about mid 70s tomorrow afternoon. looking good. 72 and 58, average high, and low this time. record high 89, record low 40, yeah 40, they are getting down there 6:46 sunrise, not that bad. a clear sky. light easterly wind. pressure is rising. all right, as we look outside fox 5 see guardian showing nothing because we are clear. 82 for high in city, and low 80 in poughkeepsie as well. 75 in belmar, and 70s to bridgeport, 80 in islip, and right now lower 70s in city, you jump away from town, it cools down to 50s. and we are looking for light-east wind, i think that will return tomorrow, and bring the temperature down a little bit. that wind coming in off

. >> yes we cover that with margaret thatcher and gorbachev and the ultimate success of his policy toward the soviet -- soviet union made that quite clear the way he structured his administration he was very successful with the foreign policy realm and domestic front if you confine -- combined the two you have a great president. >> host: the relationship with margaret thatcher you have some great stuff in here on her. interesting they were both very strong individuals. >> guest: we got the transcript after the invasion of grenada and she was serious. he did not tell factor that there are ghana go into grenada and she was gone now to drive the tissue is telling her parliament the united states will not do this and i am friends said he would tell me that he doesn't she lights him up on the phone call. it is fascinating but again this is what we do end of book. that is why these folks are so successful because it is the big picture. who was at regins funeral? with tears and had forgiven him and best friend and champion quack ? market thatcher. we show you there was a detachment over grenada

. >>> james gray wilson, the a author of a new book on reagan, gorbachev, but also the historian for the state department. let me ask you about that first. what is your job? >> i'm one of the number of historians at the state department led by our elite historian dr. steven randolph. we work on a project called the foreign realizes of the united states series, which is a congressionally mandated documentary record of u.s. diplomacy and daughter of foreign relations. we currently work at about 45 covering the reagan administration from everything such as the

. >> guest: but we cover that with his interactions with target badger and gorbachev and the old and a success and margaret thatcher and we made that quite clear that the restructured his administration he was very successful in the foreign policy realm and on the domestic front if you combine the two you have a great president. >> host: truly great. the relationship with margaret thatcher. it wasn't always smooth sailing. they were strong individuals >> we have that transcript after america invaded grenada in thatcher was furious and had a right to be. there are some things about ronald reagan then he did not tell his best paul said thatcher wasauling out to dry. mint she says they would tell me and he doesn't the shiites have a very have the transcript it is fascinating but this is what we do in the book. relay out the whole thing. knew was that regins funeral is in tears did have forgiven him was his best friend and champion? margaret thatcher. be sure you even though there was a detachment they came back together because essentially they were of like mind and wanted freedom to ov

gorbachev, tear down that wall.e understood the principles of democracy and the world order rather well, k.t., don't you think? >> yeah, i worked for president reagan. i must say as the beginning of his administration, i supported the republican establishment candidate. it was george h.w. bush. people said what does reagan know about foreign policy? and yet reagan turned out to be the most successful american foreign policy president of his generation. why? he was able to take down the soviet union without firing a shot. none of the other -- lou: a minor achievement. >> a massive ax achievement. lou: i can imagine wonks around the world circa 1989 saying how could he do that? he knew so little. this is about leadership, about a commitment to a nation and its people, and no one could ever question reagan's commitment. in the instance of donald trump, what do you expect of him tonight, and do you expect much, really? >> look, i'm one of the people who thinks that trump actually makes a lot of sense on foreign policy.

ronald reagan in negotiating with mikhail gorbachev. and the same thing held true when richard nixon decided to negotiate with china. the critics on the right were quick to condemn him. the chinese were sponsoring north vietnamese who were killing american soldiers. there were plenty of reasons not to do it. richard nixon did it with bipartisan support and the world's a better place for that courage that he showed. so at this point as we bring this aspect of the debate to a close -- i see senator reid is here who is going to be recognized soon -- we listen carefully to those who are critical of this agreement. it turns out not a single republican member of the house or senate is supporting this agreement. not one. not one. it's hard to think back in diplomatic history when it's been such a partisan division within congress on an issue of this historic importance and magnitude. but that shouldn't deter us. working with our allies we need to move forward with the inspections, with the deadlines and make certain that we do everything in ou

gorbachev said no. reagan got up and walked away from the table.not left with the berlin wall have collapsed? would the soviet union have collapsed? peace without freedom is meaningless. little side note. do you realize that our current president, barack obama, has with the president before reagan, jimmy carter, those two presidents won the nobel peace prize. reagan did not. but who brought people nor freedom? the fourth built of advice would come from reagan. he would tell us, speak the truth about our enemies and ourselves. we can't be afraid to call the enemy what it is. radical islamic terrorism. but we also can't be afraid to say the truth about america. we are exceptional. we are the force for good in the world. as reagan said at the world institute of national affairs in london, when free people cease telling the truth about and to their adversaries, they cease telling the truth to themselves. in matters of state, unless the truth be spoken, it ceases to exist. and the last bit of advice, lincoln would tell us, don't put off tough decisions

gorbachev said no. reagan got up and walked away from the table. had reagan not left with the berlin wall had collapsed. peace without freedom is meaningless. little side note. do you realize what our current president has with the president before ronald reagan, jimmy carter? those two presidents both won the nobel peace prize. reagan did not. who brought people more freedom? the fourth bit of advice would come from reagan. he would tell us speak the truth about our enemies and ourselves. we can't be afraid to call the enemy what it is. radical, islamic terrorism. but we also can't be afraid to say the truth about america. we are exceptional. we are the force for good in the world. as reagan said at the royal institution of national affairs in london, "when free people cease telling the truth about and two their adversaries, they cease telling the truth to themselves in matters of state unless the truth be spoken, it ceases to exist." and the last bit of advice lincoln would tell us, don't put off tough decisions for future generations. the debate

they met the cia and other case officers met gorbachev 21 times on the streets of moscow. tolkachev said i'm not spying because i love your country. he wrote to the cia i have never seen your country with my own eyes and unseen i do not have enough romanticism. tolkachev portrayed his own country out of anger and revenge. he told the cia over and over again he was bound and determined to do as much damage as possible to the soviet union in the shortest possible time. tolkachev even told the cia he had a plan that he said at seven stages. it will take 12 years and here's what i'll give you. this guy was an engineer. everything had to be orderly and what they want in return? aside from avenging this burning hatred of the soviet system he wanted money and he got a lot of money. he couldn't buy anything with money in that time and moscow. he couldn't even buy a decent pair of shoes. he wanted the money is a sign of respect and at one point the cia offered to pay him more than the salary of the president of the united states. he never really got that money but he got worthless

. >> gorbachev is a professor there, too. all the former world leaders there. >>> let's check in with meteorologist jeff smith. >> fairly pleasant out here. we will have a hot and humid afternoon. this would be the time to get out and do your morning workout. not during the hottest time of the day, not just because of the heat and humidity but air quality is not that great. we have air quality alert in effect for new jersey for that time period. we head up a few hundred feed and look at the sun just starting to come up over the horizon. the wind is calm. we don't have much of a breeze out here. 80 the high for september. we will go ten above that. not quite the record of 97 set in 1953. sun coming up in a few minutes at 6:22. setting before 7:30 this evening. it will be hot and humid today, tomorrow and thursday. highs in the low to mid-90s. that feels like the middle to upper 90s with humidity. backdoor cold front presses in from new england by late thursday to thursday night. that can provide us with a shower or thunderstor

>> we covered that in the interactions with the most elite have margaret thatcher, gorbachev and the soviet union. i think we made that quite clear that the way that he structured the administration but he was successful and the foreign-policy realm if you combine the two and have a great president. >> relationship with margaret thatcher lets touch on that you have great stuff in here. interesting it it wasn't always smooth sailing they were both very strong individuals. >> we got the transcript of the phone call after america invaded grenada and thatcher was here and had a right to the end of this is what i mean when i say there are some things about ronald reagan that were not noble but he didn't tell his best pal they were going to go in they said the united states isn't going to do this and he would tell me all of a sudden he doesn't tell her and she invites him up on the phone call and we have a transcript of the phone call it's fascinating but again this is what we do in the book. we lay out the whole thing and that's why i think these books are so successful because people get

and we metsix of us with former president gorbachev and other leaders. we spent almost three hours with president putin, in a private lace where he lives, and we -- private place where he lives, and we discussed all the items on the agenda with president obama and other leaders around the world. it was an extended conversation, but he was saying how much he has been working with the opposition forces in syria, along with the leaders in syria. he is try to bring the two together. he says that what he hoped to see develop, was an arrangement whereby russia and the united states could sponsor a session with three other countries, one would be iran, another saudi arabia, and a third turkey. if you think about the geography and the politics, that is a wise decision. if you brought them together, decisiond agree on any for syria could be likely accepted by other countries. i said, what did obama say when you mentioned it? he said, i have not brought it up with him yet. i said, do you mind if i do that for you? he said ok. so the next day i sent president obama

ronald reagan in negotiating with mikhail gorbachev. and the same thing held true when richard nixon decided to negotiate with china. the critics on the right were quick to condemn him. the chinese were sponsoring north vietnamese who were killing american soldiers. there were plenty of reasons not to do it. richard nixon did it with bipartisan support and the world's a better place for that courage that he showed. so at this point, as we bring this aspect of the debate to a close -- i see senator reid is here, who is going to be recognized soon -- we listen carefully to those who are critical of this agreement. it turns out not a single republican member of the house or senate is supporting this agreement. not one. not one. it's hard to think back in diplomatic history when it's been such a partisan division within congress on an issue of this historic importance and magnitude. but that shouldn't deter us. working with our allies, we need to move forward with the inspections, with the deadlines and make certain that we do everything in

somebody suggested the other day, more dangerous than the predecessors gorbachev's predecessors when you had brezhnev and others. the argument was at least there was a whole of your there he had to answer to. he doesn't have to answer to anybody. one man dictatorship with aspirations of trying to undo what he sees as the damage done by the end of the cold war. so there's a lot of concern both on the part of the chinese, are part about the chinese and the russians, and both the chinese and the russians are working very hard to try to fill those gaps, please visit or we have military capability that they haven't been able to challenge previously, like a ballistic missile that can take out an aircraft carrier. and the threat that poses to us, the weakness that we've impose on ourselves, the antimissile capability we are going to build emboldened and the czech republic that obama threw away, closed down that part of the program. there's a long list of threats out there, but it's a multiplier. you see one foul up, one problem, one weakness, one budget cut adds on to the other entity do so