gorbachev?ught you had gone home. >> president reagan meets with congressional leaders who rally support for senate confirmation of the treaty, battling intermediate and short range nuclear missiles. >> our efforts are to give future generations what we never had, a future free of nuclear terror. >> the lines in this political battle were quickly established with reagan finding his greatest support for the treaty from democrats. >> i am glad to be working with the president of the united states for a change. >> the most scathing opposition comes from conservative republicans. >> are you afraid he is going to give away star wars? >> i'm not afraid, it's in the works. if i were to vote today i would vote against the treaty. >> unfortunately ronald reagan is a very weak man with a strong staff and strong wife. >> he has changed sides and aligned with his former adversaries, the liberals, the democrats and soviets. >> for the first time in history, the language of arms control was replaced by arms r

gorbachev can accept. >> george bush understood he had a partner in mikhail gorbachev.orbachev wanted to be neutral. bush always wanted a unified germany and in a very disciplined manner moved gorbachev towards that position. >> in a major concession, gorbachev agreed to the western position that a unified germany is free to join nato. >> once you solved the german problem, you removed the basic source of tension between the two superpowers in the cold war. >> this is the big photo opportunity, the important picture that president bush came all this way to get. at this moment, gorbachev chooses to give president bush his present. the present was a soviet cartoonist's depiction of two presidents as boxers having just knocked out the cold war with the world as referee. >> george bush and brent scowcroft, his national security adviser, liked to fish together and one summer, they were fishing and they were thinking about what kind of world would emerge after all the dominoes had fallen. it's very rare that the world is so fluid and flexible that world leaders can think this

gorbachev.appeared prominently on all papers today. >> i want him to fight for peace. >> enter a bear smiling, but why is he smiling? he won over the british press, which may be something to smile about. he won over britain's iron lady, which is certainly something to smile about. >> i like mr. gorbachev. we can do business together. >> and he seems to be exploiting a potential division in the western alliance, and that is something to make him smile back to the kremlin. at 53, this rising star exudes charm, smiles easily, has a keen sense of humor and an attractive wife. >> the soviet government has gone to great lengths to portray gorbachev as the voice of reason, the man trying to prevent an arms race in space. >> mr. president! what do you think of gorbachev? >> what do you say? >> did he up stage you? did he upstage you? >> the strategic defense initiative has been labeled "star wars," but it isn't about war. it is about peace. in that struggle, if you will pardon my stealing a film line, "

this is geneva for a reception for gorbachev. i for get his title. what is gorbachev's title?blic -- socialist -- >> socialist -- >> the kwunion of socialists socialist, commie russia. [speaking foreign language]. >> how's it going? mr. reagan, how's the meeting going? >> we haven't started. >> how did it go yesterday? >> fine. >> are you getting along? >> you can see that, can't you? >> that's a picture. tell us. >> gorbachev seems to be most confident that he can outperform ronald reagan. he's feeling comfortable, he's feeling good about the way things are going, and he thinks that he should be able to strut his stuff as well on the world stage. >> it is gorbachev who is very vocal with the press, talking, laughing, smiling. it is mr. reagan sitting back speaking monosyllabically. why isn't mr. reagan coming forward in the way we've seen in the past. >> gorbachev is trying to win through public opinion what he doesn't get at the negotiating table. if he can gain leverage with the united states through propaganda efforts, he can win something at the table. >> so the stage is

he has a channel with gorbachev. so when he said mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. it wasn't just a propaganda line. people understood at that point that reagan had a relationship with gorbachev and -- and it -- and it wasn't just a relationship of being they were good pals. it was a serious relationship where they were both prepared to press each other for -- for important reasons, and so -- so -- so i think by that time reagan was -- was beginning to be treated seriously and is seen as it was the beginning and margaret will remember this, people began to realize that reagan was becoming a foreign approximately see success, that he was transforming the east-west relationship so it was the perfect time for him to give that speech in the context where u.s.-russian relations were headed. >> so when he finally did deliver this famous line, you were there on the days when he delivered it. what ran through your mind? >> did you have an inkling that this would be, this defining statement not just of the reagan presidency, but in a lot of ways the cold war itself. what was

gorbachev is weak, however, is at home with an ailing economy. mr. gorbachev's dilemma is that he cannot move any faster than he can drag along party conservatives and the old guard. an agreement could politically strengthen his hand to deal with his greatest need at home, modernizing a third world economy. >> yes, i have a very brief statement. i'm pleased to report that i'm in route to denver here. i received a call from geneva and it appears that all of the remaining issues on reaching an imf agreement have been resolved, including a reliable and credible verification. package. this treaty will be finalized when general secretary gorbachev and i meet in washington next month. >> can you tell it to the senate? >> what? >> can you sell it to the senate? >> i'll bet we can, yes. >> what did you think? >> i just couldn't believe. it's great that he came out to meet us all like that. >> i'm very surprised and pleased. >> what did you think of gorbachev? >> the guy is a pr genius. >> i thought you'd gone home. >> president reagan meets with congressiona

gorbachev.m that, we have information that president bush wanted him to know. a crew is being organized and can happen at almost any time. first he sort of laughed and said president bush has said we're friends now, he's proved it, you did exactly what you should do. but don't worry it's not going to happen. >> in the nation that help problems solve union president, gorbachev, the vice president unite he becomes president of the soviet union. >> it was announced on television that gosh clef was ill and therefore a committee would take charge until he recovered. >> tanks reported to be heading toward mouse skou where thousands of people have gathered. >> gorbachevs whereabouts tonight are unknown. >> gorbachev every year like to holiday on the black c and his aids showed up at his statue chur. they cut off communications and took away his nuclear codes. >> the military commander, the minister and the prince joined forces to mount the cue. >> nothing threatens mr. gorbachev. he is in a safe place.

first team to the floor when gorbachev came. the last question, you're right in a sense that the book doesn't center on global institutions because it really tries to look at the biological divides that on many occasions broke them apart. just as they are starting to have an international significance. the un institution was the most striking one when you can see from a promising starting point in the 40s coming out of much earlier experience, how much of this was pushed to the side because of the cold war process. the united states by the way is just as guilty of this in terms of the active sabotaging of the broad institutions as a soviet union. it would it be possible to write the history from the perspective i have in the book. as you know one of the things i'm interested in is to see not in terms of the intellectual framework, how the concept actually spread in the 20th century. i do get to that toward the end of my story. how ideas of the global helped overcome some of the cold war challenges. i think i would argue that unt

back in the times when boris yeltsin came in following mikael gorbachev. a period of detente between us and the russians. not so good under mr. putin, owl though there are some changes going on there have to see how that plays out. but you cannot understand, russia, soviet heritage and legacy, one has to realize that mr. putin spent the first 41 years of his life under communism. the was ten years being trained by the kgb. so one lesson from the cold war is legacies matter, that ideology matters. you can't touch base with somebody like that without taking into account that he has spend most of his life under communism. >> host: here's the book "the brief history of the cold war." lee edwards and elizabeth edwards-spalding. this is booktv on c-span2. >> here's a look at some upcoming book fairs and festivals happening around the country... >>> book of the recently visit capitol hill to ask members of congress what they're reading this summer. >> right now i'm reading a book called "dream lean." this is a book about the history of opiates in our country. it'

may god gorbachev is among them. global news 24 hours a day -- mikael gorbachev is among them. them this is bloomberg. the third round of nafta negotiations will kickoff tomorrow. u.s. commerce secretary wilbur discussed the -- administration's focus on mexico ahead of those talks. >> the reason they have so many free trade agreements is that their basic tariffs structure is so high. much higher than ours. that is one of the issues that we have. have given away so much on a unilateral basis. take europe. charges 10% tariffs. we charge 2.5%. them towe going to get drop a 10% tariff just to get relief from 2.5%. our unilateral disarmament toually is an impediment making trade freer globally, because we do not have that much ability to trade down tariffs. >> when do you expect we will see a new deal? somewhere close to year end, for several reasons. the mexican presidential election, canadian provincial elections, midterm elections here, and our promotion expires in july. the nature of congress these days, we don't know if that will be renewed. as we move into 2018, it will become

he said this fellow gorbachev is doing some interesting things in the soviet union if the president's going to need somebody to help him sort it out. want to be the white house soviet specialist? and as a result i got be the white house solvee spiey, at the end of the the cold war. >> host: do you speech russian? sunny do. >> host: so, after that administration, was over, you went back to stanford. >> guest: i did. >> host: then when george w. bush was running for president, how did you get involved with that? >> guest: i went back to stanford. i was provost., the chief operating officer of the university and a very happy academic but george h.w. bush called me who said my son is governor of texas, thinking about running for president and i'd like you to talk to him about foreign policy. i spent a couple of days with him and after a little while he asked me to organize his foreign policy in the campaign, and that's how i got involved with george w. bush. >> host: so were you surprised he asked you to be in the national security adviser at the beginning of that administration. >> guest

after gorbachev lost power one thing i think we do is dismiss one of the explanations that you sometimes get about russia , that the russians somehow have the right dna for democracy. i just don't believe that there are any people on the face of the earth who are capable of democracy and david, you know that we have used coastal arguments so the germans were once supposed to be marshals for democracy, the asians korea and japan. the africans were to try but of course you've got donna, you've got liberia that's going through a long democracy, i'm eric americans prefer men on horseback but of course now there's brazil and chile and colombia and by the way, african americans care about that thing pulled the vote and they had a black president, black attorney general's, we've had attorneys general, we've had black secretary of state's so i just reject the cultural argument and with the russians, you get it all the time. they just like colonialists but the story is it's the story of the failure of institutions to take hold under in norma's pressure. if you think about the collapse of the sovi

why did democracy in both casesr disappear after gorbachev lost our?>> one thing i do in this booki. is submit one of the explanations you sometimes get t about russia. like the rushes don't have the dna for democracy. i believe there any people in the face of the earth who aren't capable of democracy and david you know that we have huge cultural arguments. the germans were supposed to be marshals for democracy predations were -- but of coursw you got south korea and you've got japan. the africans they were to travel but of course you got botswana and you have kenya who is going pretentious thing. i cannot democracy. of course now there is brazil and chile and columbia and by the way african-americans were too childlike. of course we have had a black president and a black attorney general and attorneys general and the black secretary of state.e. i reject the dash and with the russians to get it all the time. they like strongman that really what the story is, this story of the failure of institutions to take hold under enormous pressure. if you think ab

. >> what about mikhail gorbachev? the famous picture of the two most powerful people in the world.each other. tell me about this one. >> that was genuine. i like that picture because i was the only photographer in the room outside of the official white house photographer and the soviet photographer. gorbachev was looking at him with love and admiration. it was kind of genuine. he really liked him. they hit it off. they had a long conversation one on one, and that's when it wrapped up. i was very, very glad to get that moment because it underscores the value of personal diplomacy and sitting down with people. >> so you have these gorgeous snapshots of an era, and we have this documentary, david, airing tonight, sort of talking about how it was potentially president reagan who paved the way for president trump. what do you make of the comparisons? >> well, i watched the documentary. i think it's terrific because it really goes to reagan's personality. that little clip about sununu, a guy he had never heard of -- >> he was like sununu -- yeah. >> it was perfect reagan. one of the thin

there's a lot of admiration, a little bit like gorbachev, who is not so much liked in his own countryut adored outside. in france it's very, very clear. even if she's lost a lot of power now, the french are very relieved that she is there to very tumultuous world as a moment. >> i think 80% of what she just rightly described as the virtues of angela merkel will be supported by her coalition partners. there's one dividing thing and that's a big one, that is immigration. how we deal with the immigration problem, and there you see a huge difference, especially between the csu, the party -- bavarianbavarian prime minister and angela merkel . the central question here is the limit. will they put a limit on the number of refugees that can come to germany? angela merkel is resisting this. so we'll see what they really say about that, but this is a sticking point. therefore they have to find a solution, and nobody reallyy knows how this will come about. thereforore as i already stated, the most important question is if merkel is ready and able to reunite with the csu. this is the most importa

in philadelphia to hear pulitzer prize-winning william recall the life of soviet leader mikhail gorbachev wednesday, we are at google's offices in washington dc with georgetown university law professor examining how the supreme court case loving the virginia impacted race relations in america. thursday, we had to westport library in connecticut, to hear author and documentary filmmaker tom shackman recalled of all the french played in assisting the cotton mill army during the revolutionary war and later that night we will be in denver at the tattered cover bookstore where doug a stat will look the vietnam war's offensive of 1968 through the eyes of 40 men in the us army's echo company. wrapping up the week on friday, we had was to seattle where stanford university history professor on reconstruction and the gilded age trick that's a look at some of the events book tv will cover this week. many of these events are open to the public. look for them to air in the near future on book tv on c-span2. >> good evening, everyone. good evening and welcome

they include mikhail gorbachev emmanuel michel. and will trump influential people around the world are glad to see him as it is for me to my own lord gave me the skills to ensure people aren't frightened of me i don't want to do them harm. like take pictures with the sole intention of ensuring they don't distort the person or expose them i just want to betray their personality or that and looseness on the minds he was of the president. in the run up to the german election he also photographed merkel's main challenger the s.p.d. his march insurance. market with visits where my photograph yet. i've taken pictures of martin schultz twice so far and it was really straightforward he's friendly and pleasant. and i'm going to you can see it. he's opened. this pope's breakthrough was a photographer came when he documented the fall of the berlin wall in one thousand nine hundred nine. since then he's been immortalizing events that awaken emotions the refugee crisis. and the bracks advantage he stared with his camera when history is being ma

you point out that democracy broke out in roche i russia after the bolshevik resolution and after gorbachev lost pair. why did democracy disappear from russia? >> guest: well, one thing i seek to do in the book is dismiss one of the explanations you sometimes get about russia. that the russians don't have the right dna for democracy. i just don't believe that there are any people on the face of the earth who aren't capable of democracy. david, you know that we have used cultural arguments so the germans were once supp the asians were too confucius. you have south korea, japan. africans, they were too tribal.e you have ghana. you have botswana. you have kenya, going through very interesting period in democracy. latin americans prefer men on horseback. now there is bra civil and chile, colombia.n 0 horn african-americans, they were toh child like to care about the thing called the vote. we had a black president. a black attorney general. we have had attorneys general. we had black secretaries of state.t it i reject the cultural argument. you with the russians you get it all the time. they lik

very soon thereafter there was the very important agreements between president reagan and president gorbachev so the fact that we're at a low point doesn't mean we're close we're not close to hitting bottom and ready to start going up toward a better and much better relationship in the future. not going back to where the topic of north korea it's the main topic on everybody's mind i'm sure around the world and of course that the forum over the next couple of days and what do you fear is on the other russia china an issue to have this idea to do a double freeze do you think it's a good idea. well look this thing is moving quickly with north korea we talked about it i didn't feel there was any real clear path forward but i do know this that close frank exchange between russia u.s. and china and other countries in the region are absolutely crucial and wiser minds i hope will prevail and be able to move north korea off this very dangerous path that they're on our president putin has there is really pushing his as strong that the only way that this situation can be resolved is through dialogue dip

back then too and in the clip reagan actually says about the washington post that there are pro gorbachev and that they're not on our side in other words they found a clip where the president is attacking the media just like trump is attacking the media and now the parallel is too obvious to be a coincidence and proves that the reagan show was nothing but yet another way for c.n.n. to attack the current president and to once again make this show all about their favorite topic which is themselves. i'm going to do just that if you're watching hard. swashing. i'm a trial lawyer i've spent countless hours poring through documents to tell the story about the ugly side of. corporate media written uses to talk about the connors. i'm going to paint a clear picture about how disturbing council block for conduct has been in mom these are stories that you no one else can tell my parents or your host of americans question. local wal-mart selling you on the idea that dropping bombs brings police to the chicken hawks forcing you to fight the battles but still. the new socks for the tell you that will b

it didn't work in cuba, and in russia's case, gorbachev came through and was a reformer.hina would advocate trade with north korea, to open up the borders and negotiation, and what is the alternative? it hasn't worked. it hasn't worked, but does that mean... the west at one point was feeding the north korean population, we were shipping oil to them and it made no difference whatsoever. i would say that china should look to its own interests here because this man kim jong—un is so deranged, there's no assurance that he won't use his weapons against china or his other neighbours. we will have to leave that for another week, i apologise. i am not sure he is a madman though. he's very rational. we will debate that another time. thank you very much to all of you. please do join us again next week if you can. thanks for being with us. bye bye. a chilly but bright start to sunday for central and eastern parts of england. ring from the word go in scotla nd england. ring from the word go in scotland replaced by blustery showers eventually across the heart of scotla nd showers even

they are going with gorbachev bush did as a quote/unquote, bipartisanship tax bill and pick off morecrats in the senate to get to 60. i could see them getting to 55 today. 60 is still hard but you give special tax deals to a enough senators to get enough democrats you is say this is a bipartisan bill. even that is difficult because once you start negotiating with those democratic senators you have to make public accommodations to them that will alienate a lot of republicans. the biggest split to me right now, i don't think that is what paul ryan and mitchell mcconnell would want. i think that is what the president does. i think after last weekend in particular the president would prefer to have nancy pelosi and chuck schumer at a signing ceremony. that central split will play out in a way that makes choosing a bath interive but i don't think they are going to choose because neither path looks anything like certain to get a bill on his desk. >> how do you pay for it? particular republicans don't want to add to this massive national debt we have. they floated the idea of eliminating th

it did not work in cuba, and in russia's case, gorbachev came through and was a reformer.dvocate trade with north korea, to open up the borders and the negotiation, and what is the alternative? it hasn't worked. the west at one point was feeding the north korean population. we were shipping oil to them and it made no difference whatsoever. i would say that china should look to its own interests here because this man kim jong—un is so deranged. there's no assurance that he won't use his weapons against china or his other neighbours. we will have to leave that for another week, i apologise. we will debate that another time. thank you very much to all of you. please do join us again, thank you for watching. hello. the showers are going to fade away as we go on through this evening. it leaves us with is a largely dry night with clear spells and it will be chilly enough for central and eastern areas for a few fog patches and potentially a touch of frost. probably not in the big towns and cities. out in the countryside well down into single digits. all the while though, the clou

sanctions definitely helped to bring the soviet union downm didn't work in cuba, and in russia's case, gorbachev would advocate trade with north korea, to open up the borders and the negotiation, and what is the alternative? it hasn't worked. the we st alternative? it hasn't worked. the west at one point was feeding the north korean population, we were shipping oil to them and it made no difference whatsoever. i would say that china should look to its own interests here because this man kim jong—un is so derange it, there's no assurance that he won't use his weapons against china or his other neighbours. we will have to leave that for another week, i apologise. we will debate that another time. thank you very much to all of you. please do join us again next week, same time same place. but for now thanks for watching and goodbye. hello there. a detailed forecast for the weekend weather coming up, i just want to update you on what's happening with the hurricanes at the moment. this was the satellite picture through the night, irma made landfall across cuba, it's the first category five hurricane t

it was that extreme position that allowed him to soften up with gorbachev to then tear down that walli'm not suggesting that trump is using the same tactic, but you have to give him credit in how he negotiates and what he does. this is classic playbook. he goes from one extreme to the other extreme and always confuses the other side. i think this is not just accidental. some of it is a strategy. you have to give him some credit. >> any collateral damage done, though? did he do any damage this past week? >> i see this as erratic, and the test of the tale is this -- he didn't get funding for the wall. democrats are never gonna give funding for the wall. >> right. >> their base will not allow it in any way, shape, or form. so now we're repairing fences versus building a wall. that's pretty telling to me. >> right. all right, bernie sanders, speaking of sanders, was not supported in his healthcare suggestions and plan by either pennsylvania senator. why not, and what in the world is going to happen with his ideas, which some folks said it might actually work? >> well, no surprise that pat

president ronald reagan harness the power of television to give a historic speech at the berlin wall mr gorbachev tear down this wall. and when president barack obama wanted to talk to the american people about climate change and everybody he chose to do it on his first ever facebook video post this has been my backyard for the last seven years over the years the ways presidents communicate to people has evolved but when the history books are written about donald trump's presidency there will certainly be a chapter dedicated to a little bluebird specifically his political use of twitter the most important role for presidential communication is not necessarily in swaying opinion but in setting the agenda and dictating what it is that americans in the media are talking. but trumps tweets are a window into his thoughts and were the subject of a recent satirical donald trump presidential twitter library exhibit in new york. the most famous tweets were framed in gold a jab at the president's love of bling even this puzzling tweet where he typed a word nobody knew how to pronounce let alone what it mea

and your obviously subject a great deal of that.t d democracy broke out in russia and weekly with gorbachev. why did it disappear from russia. explana one thing i seek to do in thisou book is to dismiss one of the explanations that you sometimes get about russia. they don't have the right dna for democracy. i just don't believe that there are any people on the place of the earth who aren'tle capable of democracy. we have it used cultural arguments so that germans who were supposed to be marshaled. of course you have celtic korea and japan. they were tribal. c of course you can is going to a very interesting point of time. of course now. they have colombia. columbia. and by the way african-americans and childlike like to care about their things called the book. we've have a black president.eca we have attorney general. we black as secretary of state. i just relet reject the cultural argument. we get all the time. but really what the story is's s the story of the failure of institutions to take hold under enormous pressure if you think about the collapse of the soviet union anything about the

from 1981 after the inauguration as the focus of evil in the modern world to kissing babies with gorbachev in red square in 88.ry hoff contemplate the condition in which the still form an its g important part uniting one bond of common interest with so many different states getting the proud title of the american citizen protecting their commerce, the literature and art, facilitating the communication, defending theme e frontiers and making the name respected in the remote parts ot the earth and the extent of the territory is increasing, it's advancing the art that renders the life and science is to elevate the mind, the education spreading the delights of religion and morality and general information into every cottage in this wide extent of the territories and states and hold it as an asylum where they find a refuge and a support.e, work on this picture of happiness and honor and say we are citizen of america. he won that battle by acting on two different levels by threatening on the one in working to cut a deal on the other. he did it because he believed that the union was sacred. i use

he, gorbachev, failed in a number of respects but succeeded in a number of respects and that was to open up to the rest of the world and i'm looking at bill right now and bill and the previous conversation made two very important points. one that russia through the ages, czars and up until -- now again they have a unique ability to make their neighbors frightened and therefore, in a way, very vulnerable enemies which is tough on russia itself. it has often been said that russia doesn't feel completely secure unless everyone else is unsecure and that blows back into their own interest. bill also pointed out what i think is an objective fact: if there is a geopolitical threat to the russian state it is not coming from the north pole. it is not coming from the west it is coming from the south and it is coming over the decades to come from the east and in particular, china. if a wise leader of russia had a map of his giant country and had to look at it every day and say what do we really have to worry about down the road it would be the strengths in terms of people power of china and the pov

what that is >> let's cast our mind backs to when it was love between russia and the west it was gorbachev, margaret thatcher, george h.w. bush and the treaty of paris in 1990 i hope your viewers are sitting comfortably. it won't take long both sides, that was still the soviet union and the warsaw pack, they agreed not only to reduce the numbers of tanks, troops so on, but crucially also to draw them apart from each other. there was strict controls on what could be deployed where the only thing was to pull everything back if that treaty could be revived, then, of course, the tensions would largely evaporate in the military sense, so you wouldn't have much closer proximity of military deployments on either side, which you're seeing today. also in the political sense. if no military forces are anywhere near the sensitive zones, ukraine, belarus, baltic, georgia, then political decisions about who is in which alliance or who is aligned with who politically becomes much less fraught and much less poisonous. that's something to look at for the longer term. you heard it here first. >> christophe

library of field philadelphia to hear for william solon recall the life of soviet leader mikhail gorbachev. on wednesday we will be at google's offices in washington dc where georgetown university law professors sheryll cashin will examine how the supreme court case loving the virginia impacted race relations in america. thursday we had to the westport library in connecticut to hear author and documentary filmmaker tom shakman recall the role the french played assisting the continental army during the revolutionary war and later that night we will be in denver at the cover bookstore where doug stanton will look at the vietnam war's tet offensive of 1968 through the eyes of 40 men in the us army's an company. wrapping up the week on friday we had west to seattle for stanford university history professor richard white's talk on reconstruction in the gilded age. that's a look at some of the events book tv will be covering this week. many of these events open to the public, look for them to air in the near future on book tv on c-span2.>> as jack said, memorably, jimmy carter was arguably the m

gorbachev and i both agree on the desirability of freer and more extensive personal contact between thehe united states. >> we began to realize that the best way to get a message to a foreign leader was to have the president go in the rose garden and make a statement. because everybody was watching cnn. >> cnn was a breakthrough. it changed the whole world. >> it changed quickly. the network news business. that business that we weren't the only ones. and it was hard. it's hard to be on the top little perch and have to come down off it. >> a special segment tonight, the network news. the first in a two-part series on the profound changes taking place in television news. changes being brought about by business, competition and technology. >> there were a variety of reasons why people who worked at the broadcast networks were freaked out in 1980s. one of them was cnn. and the rise of cable. another was being taken over by foreign entities in corporate america. >> new owners spend billions buying the networks recently, and all of them want their money's worth. >> people began to find out th

was that of a hero in hollywood saving the day in the third act as he does in his dealings with gorbachevs template is much more of a sort of reality tv template. he's -- with trump i always feel like the question is who is going to get voted out of the white house this week, you know. >> there have been some comparison to the show "the apprentice". >> sure. >> as you reflect back, we were discussing, you haven't taken on so many projects of this nature in particular. what stands out to you? >> oh, wow. what stands out to me. you know, i was really -- i came to the project because i started to see -- i started to feel that politics was increasingly being treated as a form of entertainment, or as a kind of spectacle and this was a sort of larger structural trend. and i wanted to know more about the roots of that, where did that start, why did people feel that was okay to treat politics like a game show or like a television show. >> and did you learn the answer? >> i think so. or at least i learned more about a particular moment where during which we saw a very successful performance which

gorbachev was amazing that he was willing to be so risk taking that he would put all these people atike you are going to have the military options in place. the diplomatic but a kind of case you have to almost get close to having to press a button for something to happen. >> -- russia and china and what happens with them and how do you have a military option if you can't get china on board for that? if you can't get south korea on board for that. japan on board for that. remember the place that's in the most danger would be seoul, south korea. and if we have a military option are we willing to essentially sacrifice the south korean capital and that is really difficult? >> i have a potpourri of the issues i want to discuss. each individually. dorris, what do you make of what bernie sanders and happening in the democratic party? are they making a rush to the left in single payor? >> i think they are looking at the future of the party and as you said the party hasn't done well in the states and local areas and much less the national government and they need a soul back. >> is bernie the

including through the promotion of the sei program because gorbachev to realize with a could not win. kim jong-un is clearly a brutal, immoral person who murdered many people. ted cruz is making the argument reach out to those people who are in the north korean regime that clearly are paranoid about kim jong-un and make them realize that you reunifying korea could be excellent for them in a way out of the dilemma they face under the tyranny in which they live in north korea. host: eleanor clift, china does not want to see a unified korea and they play a key role in that region. , but a president of south korea would like to see a unified continent. abouten he talks increasing the diplomatic conversations with north korea, president trump voted appeasement. double down on talking and include china. china now doesn't want to see a unified korea, but they could change the mind when they see the growing nuclear capability of north korea. i think you double down everybody talking, you look to unify, and then you try to get typei would call and iran deal. he recognized his career is not goi