and he said gorbachev. i really, who are arrested and detained in russia and said, i want you to look at my cases, specifically, all 3, what detain, released within a year that have been discussions about a potential prisoner swap, being held. this would probably fall onto the broad umbrella of human rights. do you think that the thought is something that's the kind of negotiable? quite an easy compromise that the 2 sides can make it easy to archive because the elements in question are not incredibly important for both. and so get 2 people, sign off out collaboration and reduction of tension. that's not more than that for the moment here. while it's taught me will be a very, very interesting day. i there is so much to discuss that there are just so many topics and you think was a challenge for these 2 people to try and sit down with all of that team. feeling that over to the fate of not only the country, but also the rest of the world is waiting and watching. we definitely appreciate you coming on and shari

gorbachev and nancy reagan. you talk about that strange books of tells a story. >> one thing i think these two women might have had a few things in common. the soviet first ladies, were real lightning was. often the people in the country didn't know how many kids they had, sometimes they don't even know their first names. and mrs. gorbachev is a beautiful academic, her husband's closest adviser, outspoken in her own views. and she's also was criticized for being too interested in fashion, and she's sitting at the pierre card a fashion show, in paris. not the place you would want to you think you'd find a soviet but the two of them, her and nancy reagan just had the most delicious subplot of three summits between reagan and gorbachev, and for if you count reykjavik which was not supposed to be a summit. and these women sort of snuck it inciter back and forth. nancy gets tired of mrs. gorbachev's stories on leninism. and mrs. gorbachev says the house looks like a museum and i prefer a house that looks like a home.

it is negotiating in your gorbachev many think of him as warm and friendly. he just turned 90 by the way. he is alive and kicking. with reagan and h.w. bush with the arms-control agreements in the nuclear area that we had not seen before. and then incomes boris yeltsin when we had the show on bill clinton and then to help russia joining the g8 and there were some rough spots in the nato expansion but also tremendous improvement to be able to negotiate out of those disagreements. even in the first two terms between 2,002,008 the first in 2004. he is purportedly the first international leader to call george w. bush in 2001 after 9/11 to express his condolences for our loss that day. putin by some accounts was disappointed that he thought at the time there would be more coordination of international terrorism problem that russia had this coming out of chechnya and in that hope they can work together more with the united states and there were periods of working strongly together. remember when putin's protÉgÉ that he was his prime minister so during this period o

they cited the words of reagan and gorbachev.onald reagan, cold warrior if ever there was one, who in geneva 35 years ago agreed with gorbachev that a nuclear war cannot be won, and therefore should never be fought. biden, mission accomplished on that. thomas: just on that point, can we at the end of the summit talk about a winner or loser or is that too complicated? >> one of the russian journalists asked vladimir putin that question. he said what's the score? wh who won? putin was very clear that is not how you do diplomacy. and i think botbiden and putin have a sophistic understanding of this meeting which means they were not going to score points against one another. neither one would agree to the meeting if that was the expectation. the meeting was held because the relationship has become so dangerously unpredictable that we needed to restore some degree of predictability and stabili, but the onus shifts to what comes next which will be working level staff level dialogue about the nuclear issue, about cyber, about regional s

i was here in 1985 with gorbachev and reagan, their first summit. it tells you how long we've had this difficult, complicated relationship with russia. but also how important personal relationships are between two leaders. it was the first for gorbachev and reagan. they ended up having a fine relationship. i know one of the things from people i talked to is that the russians go into the meeting believing americans don't like them. >> shaking hands with the swiss president. the questions there from what will you accomplish with putin to how are you feeling. the president not taking the bait on the questions. he's expected to go inside where he'll meet president putin behind closed doors. then all three are expected to come out for the very expected photo-op. martha, personal relationships here, president biden has famously said -- he wrote in his memoir he met with president putin. they have a history here. they met when he was vice president ten years ago. he said he looked into vladimir putin's eyes and he said to him i don't think you have a soul.

of the soviet union two players, just back from them are rice or gorbachev and nancy reagan. that relationship you talk about in your book. tell us that story. yeah for one thing you would think these two women might have had a few things in common. soviet first ladies before rays of gorbachev. we're real enigmas often the people in the country. didn't know how many kids they had. sometimes they didn't even know their first names. raisa is a brilliant academic her husband's closest advisor outspoken in her own views. she too is criticized for being sort of aloof and too interested in fashion. she's seen sitting. at the pierre cardin fashion show and in paris not a place where you would normally find them soviet you wouldn't have you wouldn't have found, you know, nina cruz jazz there. but the two of them her she and nancy reagan just that the most delicious subplot of the three summits between reagan and gorbachev 4 if you count reykjavik, which wasn't supposed to be a summit the most juicy subplot becomes these women sort of sniping at each other back and forth. nancy gets t

we got the press pack from that summit between reagan and gorbachev. it begins with a personal letter by ronald reagan to the press that was traveling with him to that summit and begins with the very telling sentence, which i think also applies for today. our trip to geneva is one of the most important of my presidency, he writes. this was brought to us by our senior producer, emily rust. her dad was part of the cnn team covering it back then. my dad was part of the ard german tv covering it back then. so a lot of history for all of us. of course a historic day today. and we're going to cover it from all angled. we have natasha bertrand, who's been covering all angles of what's been going on and especially joe biden's preparation for the summit. very, very important when you're dealing with vladimir putin. talking to natasha now. tell me some of the things that president biden has been doing to prepare for vladimir putin because he's known to try and derail meetings like this one and take the initiative. >> reporter: yeah, fred. so he's been preparing

the last one signed by gorbachev and reagan in 1987 with the intermediate missiles will expired because the united states and russia left it. generally we are back in the race which isn't coagulated. that means we are in other cuban missile crisis and not only with the soviet union but north korea, iran and many others that have become nuclear. >> more drivers than was the case. >> thank you for sharing this interesting book with us and i think all the authors of the cuban missile crisis can agree there are lessons to be learned from it so i urge people to go out and buy the book and read it and you will find many interesting parallels and lessons for the day. thank you very much. >> on our weekly author interview program "after words," democratic senator tammy duckworth of illinois discussed her new memoir, every day is a gift. >> after reading trevor noah's born a crime, his book was my inspiration because in reading it, i thought -- the title was amazing. very deeply personal about being born biracial in south africa and how even his birth was a crime. the fact that his parents, you

important site for meetings between the us president ronald reagan and the soviet leader. mikhail gorbachev. it's now absolute pleasure to be joined by somebody who is a crucial part of those meetings, puffy. publishing, who was the senior diplomat, diplomat on b interpreter during those meetings that took place that probably should get thank you very much for speaking to it. how does the current situation between moscow and washington compared to the well, the situation that was such a crucial part of was this compares actually very well or. busy very badly in that by the time you were reading met, you know, the situation was very bad. that hadn't been a meeting between soviet and us me those for 6 years. and that right now we have a similar situation. the last meeting between present, put in the. busy present time was in 2018 but unfortunately in my view did more harm than good and. busy we had relations really going down and down and down for quite a few years since at least 24, you know, perhaps earlier. so this is a very necessary summit the i do want to, if i could just ask question,

c talking of gorbachev. perfect. i do want to see what exactly led to the moment. how did we get through the decades to this point to this exact me take, see that now the united states and russia made great progress in building a new relationship. today our relationship is broad and it is strong. i don't expect russia to look like the united states. we will have the same type of democracy in iraq to tell you the truth. ah, me, 200 years has not been able to establish a stable and confident relationship with the way. why not? when you're asking when russia has not been able to establish stable relationships with the west. well, let me off q way of the western or established labor relations with russia. both sides should make the efforts. god forbid you enter into any contradictions with our american partner on the american continent. this is considered the holy of holies, and yet allocating ships with missile munitions 10 kilometers from where we are, is considered. ok, there's an equal approach. the want to reset or relationship. this says goosgo, which means what

it also fills me with sadness because it takes me back to the reagan/gorbachev meetings or bush/gorbachev meetings and the rise and hopes for russian democracy and understand the person biden is meeting with has hijacked the country. he's hijacked it for his own personal ends. of course, they're having a personal diplomatic exchange. sometimes you have to deal with somebody you don't like and biden knows the truth about putin. there's no equivalence between these two men. one of them is a democratic elected leader of the greatest country in the world, the other is a thug, a killer, a corrupt autocrat who's so worried about losing his position, he's jailed the leading opposition figure in russia. that's the reality. and you have to deal with it. but these superpower trappings can distort the truth. >> hang on. let's listen in. this is the beginning of the meeting. >> translator: i hope that our meeting will be productive. >> thank you. as i said outside, i think it's always -- [ indiscernible ] >> can you move? we can't get a shot of both of you. can you move? we can't get a shot. >> i can

big meeting in geneva back in 1985 between us president ronald reagan and soviet leader mikhail gorbachev. then that was a sort of a discussion where trust was established. there was a new era of communication between the 2 superpowers. know what is expecting that this time. so therefore, there are issues as we say, that a confrontational for both of them and difficult to approach. they have to start, you might say of with the easy steps, the small steps. kimberly, therefore we talk about common ground, don't we? what do they agree on well they don't have a lot of. c sort of similar vantage points, and that's kind of the big problem here, is that when you're set of facts at the start, differ so greatly how do you move forward? for example, the united states continues to allege that russia interfered in the 20162020 your selections, russia deny, sat. so how do you fix that problem? when it comes to the recent routes where attacks the u. s. has been experiencing the united states is unclear to say that there is there, pretty convinced this was not state sponsored in terms of this being orde

they were heavily criticized gorbachev and the meat for reagan was heavily criticized in the u. s. the meeting would go up. those meetings ultimately changed the way the world is today. so i don't want to overplay the importance i, but i also don't want to under stress the importance of the meeting between the 2 presidents. that may be absolutely nothing comes of it, but ultimately, if nothing comes of it, the big loser is, is every want. because if relationships between russia and the united states all are non existent as they are now, there aren't any when, as you see both sides, both president putin and bide and will be forcefully putting forward the, the way the vision that both russia and the united states have the cover that relationship in world stations, i think every day of the interest for all the world and the way in which the wild is going, i think in the numerous time fight and said, i consider russia to be a country and decline. i don't think it's, i think it's just a bit of a trouble maker now. it's economy's weak at this, not puting the fed. you need to recognize th

in switzerland talked to a journalist who back in 1985 worked up in geneva summit between mikhail gorbachev . unravel, reagan, he explained the significance of the meeting and how things have changed. it was the day off my, i'm sorry, of knowing and i 29th anniversary. so i remember where, you know, the expectations at the time was much bigger than nowadays because it was the 1st meeting in the mid eighty's between to the president of the to so pop our was to like reagan and mr. go back. and that was a lot of expectation, including the people with the population who participated to the summit. was curious to know this is go my serve off and how is mr. go by chance, because nobody knew about much about your soul today. no, that was much lower expectations, but i think not a bad result because this period of the meeting was as good as it was in 85 and a continuation of agreeing to speak further in the future. in my opinion, because they are very good. the spirit between reagan and go by geoffrey, now it's historical fact, but as far we can see about the meeting today, there was also some good

this with some warm chemistry as we saw back in 1985 with us president ronald reagan and mikhail gorbachev. but still, that's why this location has been selected, not because of its history, but also because of its neutrality. the feeling is that, given the fact that russian relations with the united states have been dismal, most of acknowledge that what the goal is to make sure that plummet doesn't continue, but to really stabilize things moving forward. around stunning location. it is to can li, i thanks for that. that can be how it gets back with you a bit later as the events progress well, relations between the us and russia at the lowest point in decades is we've been hearing straightened over several issues, including allegations of russian meddling and us presidential elections. jo biden's administration accused the criminal spreading misinformation during last year's election to influence americans to vote for donald trump. 2016, the election meddling went further. russian groups hacked into hillary clinton's emails and those of her staff. they also spread propaganda on social medi

his understanding of gorbachev's position may have given gorbachev the position, the room to deal withs the heightened example. so whatever these leaders get from each other will determine how they make decisions going forward and that can be crucial. >> there are two former marines in prison in russia, imprisoned as private citizens and bringing americans home is obviously a political win for any president. could we see movement on that front? >> sure, and it depends really on what vladimir putin wants to do and how he wants to present himself. there's no better way to look like america's equal than to be magnanimous. taking prisoners in the first place is want a magnanimous gesture and if they could be released, extradition is quite low, but it is one of the things that experts looking at this see as a way in which putin and russia have been escalating and those naval ships off ofmetihae you escalate so that you can de-escalate and look like you've participated in a negotiation. >> john dickerson. thanks so much. stay with cbs news for continuing coverage of president biden's histori

manny: you go back to reagan and gorbachev. build-up to a long lead time to deliver rained success. i lean into powell. we look at the markets. let's have a look at could it bethat we have this year of nonexistent volatility on fomc. here we are. it would be possible that you see the balloons are tapering. rising up. bank of america, says we could be positions for permanent growth. transition inflation and a peatful fed taper. to the euro stoxx 50rks we just had a call. they are bullish for the first time in many years. brentz is on the board. there is a draw down in inventory. of course, calling $100 oil. dollar-ruble there for the summit angst ankst. let's talk about that. if biden and putin, they have the summit, the u.s. will respond to issues that conflict with the national interests when they meet face-to-face. it is in geneva. michael is on the ground flown in overnight to cover the summit. the latest. good day. >> so we're still waiting for the beginning of the deliberations. that is going to start later this morning. i

he said to gorbachev, just so we understand each other, i would never let the soviet union win the cold probably said some form of that to putin and looked at putin afterwards no smirk. >> yeah. in fact i was going to share with the audience what those of us faithful followers saw. this is the tweet. putin shows none of the smirk that was visible when he emerged with trump to face them in helsinki 2018. that news conference that later became something of a national embarrassment in this country. the soccer ball turned out to be the least of it. let me put the next question in current terms having to do with the pandemic. i know a number of people who like myself after the first vaccine shot spiked a high fever and the doctors all assured us that means that's the vaccine working within you. when we see tensions rise now between russia and the united states, as they necessarily must, is that our indication that american foreign policy is working within us again? >> i think it is. it's a naturally competitive relationship but many of us, i don't think you made this error but i did to get s

there were not before back when soviet leaders -- before gorbachev was meeting with ronald reagan, and there's no reason to do what happened in helsinki, because he is a showman, and what joe biden said at the g7 to the press is i don't want to get into a competition about who can show off more, and i am paraphrasing, who can play more to the cameras. that's what not he needs to do, he needs to come out afterwards no matter how long it goes, and say what he wants to say to the american press and to the world about how it went, how he rebutted putin's assertions about january 6th and how he's not an autocrat and he's not responsible for what happens to navalny, and show america and the world exactly how you can stand up to vladimir putin. >> andrea mitchell, thanks for the great insights in your reporting. i understand you have to go to a briefing now. but i want to turn to you on the point that andrea raised on the issue of arms control. you wrote a piece not too long ago for politico, and you said as the lead negotiator of the treaty, i have advice for them, keep it simple. on that is

reagan said to gorbachev, just so we understand each other, there is no way i would ever let the soviet the cold war, and you know that american power is -- i would guess that biden probably said some form of that to putin, and you look at putin at the news conference afterwards, no smirk. , no smi >> in fact, i was going to share with our audience what those of us who are faithful followers of you on social media saw. this is mr. bash loss tweet, meeting reporters in geneva. putin shows none of the smirk that was visible when he emerged with trump to face them in helsinki 2018. that news conference that later became something of a national embarrassment in this country. the soccer ball turned out to be the least of it. michael, let me put this next question in current terms, having to deal with our pandemic. i know a number of people who like myself after their first vaccine shot suspected high fever, and the doctors all assured us that means the vaccine is working with a new. when we see tensions rise now between russia and the united states, as they necessarily must, is that our indi

he was in the screen actors guild and both with tip o'neill and mccaleb gorbachev. he was underappreciated for many regards and one of them was as a negotiator. it's been a fun ride. they are a number of good storiesf that i am proud to be part of the ranks. >> host: craig shirley when you talk about when you talk about israel ideology? >> guest: that's a good question, peter. reagan was never as conservative as conservatives wanted him to be. he was much more pragmatic and much more temperate in his outlook on the world than a lot of conservatives wanted him to be. he negotiated treaties with mchale gorbachev including the elimination of thousands of nuclear warheads and when he ran on the missile in the 1980 part of this campaign was was that we were behind the soviets and we need to t catch up and we needed to catch up to the negotiating table and to agree to reduce nuclear armaments. he was proven right of course and it only took eight years really before we saw the winnins of the cold war and the destruction of the soviet union. >> host: craig shirley in year l

putin arriving like the gorbachev and adding a surprise. i think it will be a businesslike meeting.hey will agree to disagree on a lot of things, and it will try to see where they can cooperate. tom: very importantly here, and i think of the soviet union, how much of the soviet union tone or diplomacy is represented by mr. putin? or has russia completely moved on from the legacy that you are expert in? william: i think glenn rebooted does have certain soviet tendencies -- think vladimir putin does have certain soviet tendencies. he's not interested in joining the global order, as it were. he's interested in sovereignty and russia's ability to assert its sovereignty domestically and overseas. so this is a really important aspect of putin's foreign policy. it is not overly ideological. it is just to make her russia is respected and has a sphere of influence -- to make sure russia is respected and has its sphere of influence. this goes back hundreds of years. lisa: president biden met with the allies and asked for their input about how to handle this meeting. i am wondering how much is

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of course, geneva was the site of a 1985 discussion between ronald reagan and mikhail gorbachev that ultimately led to the end of the cold war. president biden was already on the scene in the senate. he comes to this meeting with decades of experience. the question is will that matter at all? the white house is going into this meeting with a sense of allowing it to play out and talks. this is essentially going to play out as an act in two parts. the first, the meeting between president biden and vladimir putin and their top diplomats and later a meeting with advisers. we're told this meeting could breathe. it could last longer than five hours. as you know from being in helsinki with president putin and president biden, we'll watch the timing. will he make him wait for the meeting as putin did with president trump. for all the preparations that have gone into this moment, there's also an air of unpredictability and what both of them want to get out of today, wolf. >> what kind of mind games potentially they want to play with each other. thank you very much, jeff zeleny reporting. >>>

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president reagan and mikhail gorbachev also took place in geneva, seven miles from the place where bidenoday. the main issues were arms control and missile defense president reagan made sure and made clear to gorbachev there would be no other progress on other shalls unless there were tangible progress on human rights. within just over a year, all three regained their freedom. this is just to show how effective personal advocacy from an american president can be. and reagan followed in the footsteps of other presidents, from nixon, to ford, to carter, who managed to secure the release of political prisoners. we've heard this issue mentioned several times in the run-up before and after the meeting, waup of prisoner exchange. i hope if there's one practical deliverable after the biden/putin meeting today is that at least a handful of these nearly 400 political prisoners in putin's russia regain their freedom. secretary of state wrote to him after he managed to secure the freedom of a group of religious prisoners that it is a gift of wantonment to secure the release of a human being. it is

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and at the end, he signed the treaty with gorbachev to reduce the nuclear stockpile. on the soviet side and the american side. both sides were drawing their missiles from western and eastern europe. it was all verified, but he forced the issue by first building up arms. that is exactly what he said during the campaign. he called for elimination of the salt treaties and the beginning of the stark treaties, which he implemented successfully. host: our last color is from illinois. good morning. caller: i do not think much of ronald reagan. all he cares about is money, he and his wife. the republican party is now leading the u.s. into revolution. they hate the black people, brown people, anybody who is not white. all they care about is the white people. they want to make this country a white country. they despise all other races, apparently, and they cannot fathom the idea of another race taking over america and being in charge. host: thank you for the call. your response? guest: my first response is to laugh. it is like she is reading a script. they are not open at all t

, president reagan and gorbachev. >> mr.erlin wall ultimately leading to the collapse of the soviet union. president clinton tried to get next to boris yeltsin, hoping to bring about reforms. as yeltsin has struggled to hold power in the kremlin, the russian message to the u.s. has been blunt. >> reporter: instead, the aging yeltsin was replaced by a youth soviet intelligence agent named vladimir putin. president bush believed they could find common ground. >> we had a very good dialogue. i was able to get a sense of his soul. >> reporter: but gained little traction. president barack obama attempted a russian reset, but his diplomatic wish list went largely unfulfilled. >> and putin loves it. he loves it when i'm brilliant. >> reporter: despite intelligence reports that russia tried to influence the presidential election on his behalf trump met with putin in it wasn't 18 and appeared to accept his denial. >> i have president putin he just said it's not russia. i will say this, i don't see any reason why it would be. >> repor

putin does not want to join the west, and gorbachev wanted to reform domestic politics and the economy in the soviet union. putin is doing the exact opposite. >> ambassador mcfaul, it's good to have you along with us, and i know you'll be with us throughout the morning as we bring you the latest from geneva. nbc news will have live coverage of president biden's post summit news conference as soon as it begins. >>> another major this morning, an important milestone in the pandemic, 15 months in the making two states hit hardest by the coronavirus, new york and california, have now dropped most restrictions to officially reopen nbc news correspondent miguel almaguer is in l.a. for us good morning. >> in california alone an estimated 15,000 businesses were forced to close during the pandemic now with a mass reopening underway, those that survived are hoping for a rebound, but health experts are warning the delta variant will likely become the dominant strain in the u.s. and could lead to a rise in cases in the coming months this morning the delta variant is causing higher levels of infect

i would like to remind you that in the spring of 1998, i think it was, that gorbachev was given a promisey james baker that italy -- that in return for the dissolution of the warsaw pact and the reunification of germany, nato would stop pushing borders one inch eastward. since then, nato has pushed its borders to the soviet entity in the baltic state, it has made its wishes for the soviet socialist republic of georgia to become part of nato and it has also lobbied for ukraine to become part of nato. so, can you please tell me who is the villain in this? it is confusing to me. by the way, this has been -- this has been -- the national archives just released this. it is all factual. thanks. guest: thanks for your question. i am certainly familiar with both sides of -- not really the argument -- but on what was or was not intended. i have seen those statements and all i can tell you is that only the people in the room really know what happens there. i think there is an understanding that even if, at the time, there were assurances given that nato would not enlarge eastward, those were someho

gorbachev, tear down this wall, with mr. trump, who said america first all the time, and joe biden, what can we do about climate change, what can we do, what do we to give up? that is what the world now sees, and it is scary, when you think this is the guy making decisions, and our adversaries see the exact same thing that you and i see and all of your viewers see. >> sean: let me go back to this. i want to get your take on it, mark meadows. unfortunately, both of you were not very friendly to me, because i would ask for information, and you often hate it for me but you knew it was true but said yeah, i can't talk about it, and i would ask the obvious question, am i over the target, and i might get some affirmation or read into it that i was getting affirmation, but the reality is, it is the democrats that bought the russian dossier. the reality is, ukraine paid the bidens, russia paid the bidens, kazakhstan paid the bidens, china paid the bidens. now imagine if it was donald trump's family that made all that money. >> well,

gorbachev, tear down this wall. trump said america first all the time and joe biden said what can we do about climate change? what do we need to give up? that's what the world now sees and it's scary when you think about this is the guy making decisions and our adversaries see the exact same thing that you and i see and all the viewers see. >> sean: i want to get your take on this, mark meadows. unfortunately, both or you were not very friendly to me because i would ask for information and you often hid it from me but you knew it was true and then would you say, yes, but i can't talk about it. i would ask the obvious question, am i over the target? and i might get some affirmation or read into it affirmation but the reality is, it was -- ukraine bayed the bidens. russia paid the bidens. kazakhstan paid the bidens. china paid the bidens. imagine if it was donald trump's family that made all of that money. >> listen what they do is have one standard for the democrats and another standard for president trump and his fa

our team in the city spoke to a journalist who worked at the 1985 geneva summit, that was between gorbachev and reagan and asked him how things are different, 3 and a half decades on it was the day off. my, i'm sorry, knowing july 29th, an event. sorry. so i remember where, you know, the expectations at the time was much bigger than nowadays because it was the 1st meeting in the mid eighty's between to the president of the to so pop our restore. why are we going to go back? and there was a lot of expectation, including the people with the population who participated to the summit, who was curious to know this is go much serve off. and how is mister, go by chance, because nobody knew about much about you. so, today was much lower expectations, but i think not the bad result. because this period of the meeting was as good as it was in a defined relation, a continuation of agreeing to speak further in the future. in my opinion, because there are a very good spirit between reagan and god by geoffrey. now it's historical fact. but as far we can see about the meeting today, there was also some go

russia and the united states, a lot of paddles are being drawn between the 985 meeting between gorbachev's and reagan. also here in geneva. accept and then sorta give you an idea of how far relations have fallen back. then reagan and gold, which were they were all smiled as difficult to imagine biting them to, to be ruled, smiled the sob around the differences between russia and the united states. now they are tremendous, the 2 leaders will discuss all all manner of subjects from the miss profit. they both have for each other to the global arms control to regional conflicts, financial and economic subjects, as well as sabra tax. the. com, a change the pandemic. what both countries can do to work together. there isn't much of an expectation for a breakthrough. during this meeting is a short, a very official summit. and these subjects had to be coordinated. they tend to be scripted both sides of already agreed. what they'll say at the end, they both even be a mutual press conference. joe biden has said that he's go to host his own relations off and then incredibly sorry, was that it'll be up

that gorbachev in his week when years thin in a completely craven way, had given up all the crops to we do what you want and got no concessions a toll apart from global ones on nato. nature will not extend its frontiers, etc, etc, which they have broken with impunity. so it was necessary for any government in russia to take back sovereignty. and as far as the chinese complained, who can doubt now in many ways, the sort of most important country in the world, the economically they're not going to be treated like they were before. so all this military threats and saber rattling and aircraft carriers is going to have knowing the chinese are the most important concrete. there was no, there are people in the united states who are thinking we, we couldn't russia a long time ago, decades ago by making a block with china. and we succeeded to a certain extent in doing that. perhaps we should do a deal with the russians to weaken china. they told they think in those terms that if we can get russia on side, we can then use them. i myself, am not sure that even if they try this seriously, it's g