but there is very much a strain that found with khrushchev, gorbachev and yeltsin. in recent ruston -- russian history there are movements which get cut off because they are not strong enough. so for me it is a hope that the democratic side of russia would emerge after putin and in that democratic side emerges a gorbachev type leader who will reach out to the west and find in the west a friendly hand and ready to help the east. it is the same planet and we have to share it and find a way to do that without war. without a small war becoming a big war, you have to be incredibly careful. host: this is marianne in the keystone state, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. guest: good morning. caller: i have a question about the cuban missile crisis. i only heard it once that khrushchev took the missiles out of cuba because we, the united states, agreed to remove missiles that we had pointed at russia. and that's why it was settled so quickly. is there any truth to that? guest: there is some truth to that, yes ma'am. we had known for a long time now that the uni

but nobody seems to remember gorbachev will go up the mania advice him and his idea of a common european home. um, you know, whichever, whichever one was of july sure, you guys will close in his legs. he is going to trust. i mean he strangely criticized pollutant, but he also bitterly condemn the west, so betrayed that vision and rightly i think. but of course, when it comes to your pin publics, well, what can you expect the look of person? i mean, it's the bbc. i'm the times. i'm the daily teller growth. and even the gone to a unit. i'm the magazines, all in say exactly the same thing and the read basically guessing that q from government funded think turning, switch all unanimous on the same subject. you know, i mean, you, you come expect corporate people to know any better than they all. and that's the thing. so we talk about russian misinformation, uh, bought by different parts of tools. but even if you look at britain today, i'm in the admin in a sense, there is no public debate. there is no public serious public discussion about british interests versus priorities international rea

but nobody seems to remember gorbachev or gold, the mania advice him and his idea of a common european home. um, you know, whichever, whichever one was of july, sorry about that. of course in his late he is going to trust. i mean he strangely criticized bruten. but he also bits of the come to the west, so betrayed that vision and run to the i think. but of course, when it comes to your pin publics, well, what can you expect the look person? i mean, it's the bbc am the times i'm the daily teller growth and even they've gone to a unit and the magazines all in say exactly the same thing. and the read, basically getting back to from government funded. think turns switch all unanimous on the same subject. you know, i mean, you come expecting 3 people to know any better than they all are and that's the thing. so we talk about russian misinformation about by different pulse of goals. but even if you look at britain today, um, you know, they're in a sense, there is no public debate. there is no in public serious public discussion about precision trends versus priorities international realities

gorbachev, tear down this wall. >> martha: an incredible moment and that was the beginning of the tumblingthe wall literally and figuratively and for ukraine it was the beginning of their freedom and the establishment of their country in 1991. and now we find ourselves here. compare reagan in this situation and trump although obviously we understand there is a war going on and there are differences but we know that president trump admires him. >> very different personalities but using the same foreign policy because they are focusing on what is good, our technology. the reason reagan was able to win the cold war was we had a military match, we matched them on an arms basis and then targeting the soviet economy. they could no longer work on the international banking system to borrow money for example. in addition to that and the most important, russia relies on all of this income that comes from exported oil revenues. the price of oil was $40 per barrel in the reagan administration and reagan through various actions push that down to $18 per barrel. what did that do? it cut their revenue st