know you'll bring us the latest as you get them phil lebeau, thank you for more, let's bring in gordon bethunelines ceo, and important to this conversation, former vp and general manager of 737 and 757 programs at boeing gordon, thanks for joining us today. the fact that we're getting these. and i realize that there are more details and more context to come here, hopefully, but the fact that we're getting these instant messages from back in 2016, with how long the investigation has been happening around boeing and the faa and the 737 max, why has it taken this long for these messages to be made public >> morgan, i understand that they turned those over in january to the justice department, but i guess there's some internal government barrier to communicating across those two departments. morgan, they call them test pilots, because it's a test. and there's no incentive for them to lie. and as a matter of fact, you want the rigorous, thorough investigation and they give you the feedback, because you can't bs in aviation if you're running out of fuel, adjusting the fuel quantity indicator doesn't