to how gordon chang would you describe the united states chinese relations at this minute. i think they're tense there's a my sense is that there is anger at the top of the american government for what beijing has done it deliberately hid the virus it then tried to tell the world that there was no human to human transmission that led to the epidemic becoming a pandemic and you know as we saw heard from the white house reefing yesterday there's a sense that we were misled and i think people in washington are are pretty white hot angry. this chinese they if we don't get the right information diest think they send out deliberately misinformation. i think that clearly that is what they did you know we saw for instance beijing tell the world health organization that there were no community transmissions and the w.h.o. put that out on a tweet on january 4th were to become infamous and i think that beijing did that because it wanted the international community to sort of keep links with china but what they did of course was by keeping those links at a time when they knew about com

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gordon chang, great to have you on the program.hy do you say the president was right to yank that funding? however temporarily or long-term, of the world health organization? >> the world health organization can't operate with the current leadership in place. that leadership helped china in a very maligned way to spread this disease beyond china's borders. the w.h.o., for instance, on january 14th, said, "look, based on china's information, there is no evidence of human to human transmission." that's at a time, harris, were w.h.o. doctors were saying, "of course this is human to human transmission." although the w.h.o. does much find work with its professionals and its doctors, i don't think it can operate in an effective manner to aid countries as long as you have dr. tedros and some of the senior officials there. >> harris: you know it's interesting about what you just said? it almost sounded china-like, what's been reported about how people were kept quiet in the early days of the outbreak in china. doctors in particular. so now

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lou: gordon chang, good to have you with us. stay safe, good to see you. to hear your thoughts an on all of this -- you bet, gordon, thank you. and we'd like you to get ahold of us on twitter @lou dobbs, on facebook and instagram @loudobbs tonight. and a programming note, congressman doug collins, judicial watches tom fitton among our guests here monday. we hope you'll be with us then. and next here tonight, christopher steele revealing that somehow his primary source transcripts were, well, they've e just gone away. were they wiped out by him? i don't know. he put it in a pass i voice, no active declaration of what he did back this january of 2017. well, this bombshell from a newly-released steele deposition in a british court. steele admitting he doesn't have the information related to his so-called debriefings with his so-called lone source. steele also claiming his z contacts with fusion gps were scrubbed on january 4th to be precise, five days before his dossier was published by buzzfeed. well, joe biden predicting president trump will try to delay the

gordon chang, an asia expert and also a fox news contributor, gordon, thank you.we will be taking you to the brady briefing room momentarily. >>> this is a fox news special report. i'm jon scott in new york. the president met with his coronavirus task force today. there were no plans initially for a briefing, but they decided that because -- well, the president announced that if there was to be news coming out of their meeting today, he would hold such a briefing, and that appears to be the case. the coronavirus task force has assembled on stage in the brady briefing room in the west wing of the white house. the media are there. and we expect to see vice president mike pence who is the head of that task force as well as in almost all certainty president trump there at the microphone, giving us the latest on the coronavirus. we have been warned by the president and other members of the task force that the week, perhaps two weeks ahead are going to be excruciating for this country. the united states now leads the world in the number of coronavirus cases, that is if

joining us is asia analyst gordon chang.t is still an allegation but what is your reaction so far? >> this allegation fits the facts. there is a january 20 fourth article from the authoritative british journal and it says when you look at the initial cases many of them, perhaps as many as a third have no connection with the wet market which is the theory beijing has been promoting so when we look at that we have to say either there were two outbreak simultaneously or the wet market is not the source. the notion this escape from a lab is supported by the majority of the science we see out there. >> some sources tell us that the initial transmission of the virus goes back to human and this patient 0 worked at the lab in china and from there that is how the virus escaped into the population, sources also tell us china suppressed data, changed data, samples were destroyed, contaminated areas were scrubbed, where do we go from here? >> we have to take up what the secretary of state said, we have to press the chinese to let virolo

oz, lara logan and gordon chang. we hope you will continue with us tonight. up next.resident trump throwing his support behind -- well, president obama throwing his support behind joe biden. the president thinks of that as support for him. he's also pushing for amnesty in the middle of a pandemic. congressman jim jordan joins us next. stay with us. it's best we stay apart for a bit, but you're not alone. we're automatically refunding our customers a portion of their personal auto premiums. learn more at libertymutual.com/covid-19. [ piano playing ] we were paying an arm and a leg for postage. i remember setting up shipstation. one or two clicks and everything was up and running. i was printing out labels and saving money. shipstation saves us so much time. it makes it really easy and seamless. pick an order, print everything you need, slap the label onto the box, and it's ready to go. our costs for shipping were cut in half. just like that. shipstation. the #1 choice of online sellers. go to shipstation.com/tv and get 2 months free. lou: president trump is fed up with

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gordon chang. lou: number of tests around country has grown in past few days. from 69,000, friday, to now. tonight, 1.1 million. new york which has the largest number of kay cases of any state increase testing to 16,000 a day, president trump, halted medical aid to foreign countries. during a request for protective gear from thailand, u.s. officials were told a shipment of similar supplies was headed to china for united states -- thailand from united states for aid, they were sending then to 13 nations tha that include vie, and honduras while our first line healthcare workers are scrambling for supplies, well the president's coronavirus task force driving to begin. within the next few minutes we're told. through see the white house press briefing room. we'll bring that to you as the president enters, also, grocery stores they are increasing their hiring as more americans find themselves without jobs, we'll talk with one of the owners of those all important grocery store chains, here next, how long will supplies last. will we be able to keep that grocery store s

gordon chang, senior fellow at the gatestone institute.ou were following this case long before people were calling it a pandemic. we know now that the chinese were covering up from the moment that the respiratory disease or novel pneumonia was present in wuhan. we are also looking at a world health organization as you and i have discussed numerous times that is being influenced by it's just too gentle an expression. it's being one by the ccp, isn't it? >> it certainly is. china's two main initiatives. one was to say this disease was not transmiserable human to -- transmiserable human-to-human. but they might traws with transmissable human to human. the w.h.o. backed them you have on the chinese leaders did not want restrictions or quarantines. so the w.h.o. issues its statement supporting china's decision. and the w.h.o. expressed confidence in chain sta's death and infection -- china's death and infection numbers. the w.h.o. helped spread this disease outside china's borders. lou: now the world health organization, the president ordering

jerry baker now, editor at large of our corporate cousin, "wall street journal," and gordon chang is , author of the coming collapse of china who lived and worked in china for almost two decades, gentlemen, welcome to our discussion here. gordon, pick up on that last point that jillian was talking about, the trillions of dollars that have now been threatened from germany, the u.k., different firms of the united states. how much of a difference does that make to the communist party in beijing? >> well, for beijing, this is an issue of symbolism, and symbolism is absolutely critical to an insecure communist regime. you've got these class action lawsuits in federal court. florida, texas, nevada, and you have two important pieces of the legislation in congress right now. there is the content crenshaw bell, and there is the blackburn gooden bill. and both of these would strip trent of protection under the foreign sovereign communities act. this is not just an american thing, bill. we had a british paper ten days ago draw up how much china load britain, and the bill, which is a very popular

marc siegel and gordon chang among our guests tomorrow evening, up here could more changes in the trumpdministration. acting navy secretary thomas modley resigned his post, asking calling out of th a. >> he criticize captain brett crozier, after leaving a memo. to help his sailors, under secretary of army, james mcpherson to succeed modally. great news for republican congressman collins in his senate race against rino senator kelly loeffler, leading all candidates in georgia senate race, loeffler polls behind leading democratic candidate, among georgia republicans, collins support is up questioned, 70% of republicans backing collins now, 20% loeffler. >> radical dimm house speaker nancy pelosi, who led the part of hate in its efforts to try to over throw the president is now accusing high supreme court of trying to undermine democracy. for ruling against extending wisconsin a absentee voting for today's primary election. here we are. >> you have supreme court of united states, undermining the -- our democracy. it is really shameful. 5 to 4. surprise, surprise. lou: surprise, surprise. n

gordon chang and fox news contributor dr. nicole saphier are back.ss the two political leaders, gordon, which of them is tougher the op china, in your -- on china, in your view? >> my view would be president trump. so, for instance, just to go back to a few months ago, on january 31 the president imposed travel restrictions and quarantines on china. the vice president severely criticized him for doing so, but everyone now recognizes that was the right thing to do. you know, both the president and the vice president have vulnerabilities on china, but the vice president's are much larger. largely because policies in the obama administration were weak in many cases, also because the vice president's combat -- [inaudible] where he said the chinese were not competition for the united states and that chinese leaders were not bad folks. now, the vice president has walked that back a little bit, but nonetheless, i'm sure we're going to hear those in campaign ads all the way up until november. jon: dr. saphier, just yesterday the president was saying, you kno

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here to explain more is the author of the book "the coming collapse of china," gordon chang.elighted you are here. i don't know anyone who can speak to this more clearly and effectively. just how much misinformation do you believe we are seeing from china right now on coronavirus? >> from the very beginning of the outbreak until now, there has been one piece of misinformation after another. and the reason is for the communist party, the most important thing is controlling the narrative. we learned that governor on january 26 when the communist party announced its task force for the coronavirus epidemic, there was nine people on the roster. almost all of them were propaganda types or political hacks. there was only one public health official and i believe that her degree wasn't something other than public health. this clearly was an attempt by the party to control narratives not only in china but around the world. >> mike: the secretary of state has been told no can do when it comes to having some people go over and take a look. what does that tell us? >> it tells us that chin

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gordon chang is the author of "the coming collapse of china." tonight, gordon, thank you so much for coming on. and so china has banned or tightly restricted further research into the origins of this global pandemic. why would they do something like that do you think? >> i think because beijing is very worried about how this disease started because there is growing evidence as you point out w that this was an accidentl release from either the wuhan institute of virology which is a biosafety lab or an institution which is 20 miles down the road so i think they really want to make sure that people do not understand where this comes from and by the way, they have done a lot of work over the last several months to make sure that the foreign community doesn't get the opportunity to study the origins of this outbreak in wuhan. >> tucker: do you think that's one of the reasons that early samples of the virus were destroyed on orders from the chinese government? >> i'm sure that was the case. happened on january 3rd whenen china's national health commis

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and they should be making compensation and of course gordon chang knows that better than anybody.is one of our experts on this issue. >> sean: i can't introduce you any better than she did. >> thank you, senator. she is absolutely correct. china actually knew sometime the second week of december that there were human to human transmissions. they didn't actually acknowledge this until january 20th and during that time, this virus spread out of china. this would've been a local outbreak contained a wuhan who were it not for the actions of the communist party and the senator is absolutely right. one way or another, china must pay. they should just voluntarily contribute it's holding up treasuries back to us and if not, we should be working in conjunction with the other major issuers of currencies aroun aroe world to seize their obligations. we do this in connection with the holders of pounds, swiss francs, euros, and yen, we have a solution. >> sean: at this point, we don't know. i'd like to know that we have real data. we have any idea if they're telling us the truth now senator? >>

gordon chang, thank you for that.reciate it. >> thank, tucker. >> tucker: we get the feeling that the media are covering for china customers may be they care about that country more than our own? it's no coincidence you may feel that way. years ago, michael bloomberg admitted that his operation censored itself to placate the chinese communist party's. now we have details on just how far bloomberg was willing to go. in 2013, "bloomberg news" reporters were working on a piece about massive wealth accumulated by leading party officials. the story never ran and the reporters who wrote it were silenced. now national public radio has obtained internal bloomberg audio recordings. in this recording, then editor and chef kills the story he admits purely to keep china happy. listen to this. >> it is for sure going to, you know, invite the communist party to -- completely shut it down, kick us out of the country. so i just don't see that as a story that is justified. >> tucker: yeah. business imperatives came before telling the