on that same mission we lost one guy, joe gordon who was killed. macon was a prisoner. daniels was a prisoner. it was a prisoner, and one other guy. we lost five men on that one mission. but we later found out, the control, the guns firing off of the coast, and one guy who was a p.o.w. had three or four guys, p.o.w.s. and i spent the rest of the time hungry, but as a p.o.w., we existed. i will leave it there. later on going to the book where i -- >> very good. colonel harvey, i was going back to you, and you asked a question of the panel, but i wanted to give you a chance, and first of all, we wanted to know where you from first. i did not do that at the original outset, and two, i am curious flying so long with the military, what airplanes are you, were you actually qualified in to fly throughout all of those years, what airplanes. so where are you from and what airplanes? >> like i said before, i'm from a small town in pennsylvania called newengull, pennsylvania, and we were the only black people out there. and so there were no prejudice whatsoever, because i got alon