so, let's bring in the analyst at the hard of this, gordon johnson of hacks yom capital, well known to our viewers, gordon, polypore says this is a tour issue, late in your application, a space issue. do you think otherwise? >> well, i will just say we are not going to send the analyst a day. we brought information about supply and demand analysis as well as the dry process versus wet process and i think some of those dat a points we brought forth haven't been -- have not been brought forth before we initiate on the stock at $56 a share, see where it is at today, last time we looked, it was $35 a share. seen gm come out and announce cuts to production of volt. nissan come out and polypore come out and announce a new battery supplier who does not use polypore. i think a lot of the analysis we have done has come to fruition yet we continue to try to reach out to this company and they have they are not responding back us to, which isn't atypical, but we like to chat with management, get their side of the story so we can see. >> gordon this is herb. this is kind of interesting. we have see