. >> was it gordon jump or gordon klapp. >> jump. >> by the way if the producer could whisper that in my ear so i can maintain the illusion that i know it, that would be great. >> it is gordon klapp. >> it is jump. >> you said because we are friends with countries that aren't so great it is not like we criticize other countries. you said what is embarrassing is way don't have a double standard. i agree. kennedy is right. that's the way we and every other country does business. >> fair enough. then say that's the way we do business. the problem with us is we are always telling everybody else how to do business. we are telling everybody else how to live. russia is russia. we know they are creeps. we try to come off like, no, we are the good guys and we will be friends with this dirt bag and not that dirt bag. >> kennedy? >> i don't want to be jim's legs walking home. those things will not make it back to his apartment unbroken. >> are you threatening him? >> no, but the russians will. >> we are not in brooklyn. >> what rodman did is no different than sean penn. >> can i make a point? th