here to talk more about this, gordon macinnes from the new jersey policy perspective, and li adorno from amerin friends service committee. welcome to you both. so, it seems like the kids are so close, right? they have the opportunity to get the in-state tuition, but they're not applying because the cost is still too high. >> if they are applying, in many cases, they're getting admitted, but they can't afford to go, so they don't accept the admission, for example, to rutgers, which has been the most active university in reaching out. >> okay. so, what's the proposal now before the state legislature? >> so, the original bill had student financial aid in it. we want to get that section back in because, lookit, we're talking about kids who came here not by choice. they came with their mom and dad. and they got here, and they finished high school, they did well enough to get into the colleges, and their parents don't make enough money, and they have no rope to grab ahold of. >> yep. and there are grants, correct, and other issues, sometimes, that latinos can -- we've talked about it here on "