>> i want you to tell me if you informed your father that you authorized payments to gordon taylor as a result of him being a victim of a crime? >> the settlement with mr. taylor and happy to address that matter in some detail if you'd like. my father became aware after the settlement was made in 2009, i believe after the confidential settlement had become public and the newspaper reported on the out of court settlement afterwards, but please understand that the settlement they out of court, and out of court settlement of the civil claim of that nature and with that -- of that quantum is something that normally in a company our size, the responsible executives in the territory of the country would be authorized to make, and that's the way the company function # and below approval thresholds to go to my father. >> there are other questions asking specific questions about the issue. i'll go back to your father, if i can. mr. murdoch, at what point do you find out criminality was endeemic at -- endemic at news of the world? >> "endemic" is a very wide ranging word, and i also had to be c

crone prepared a detailed memorandum concerning the gordon taylor case which sent mr. mylar in may 2008? >> mr. crone prepared a memorandum that was substantially narrow and didn't raise certain things to the memorandum and that is a critical point --. estimate the figure was on the 24th of may. >> was prepared by mr. crone who in advance of the meeting. >> i don't know that i would assume that is the case and some of the things in that memorandum were discussed with me in the conversation with crone and mr. mylar on the tenth of june, so that is a yes. >> would you say the memorandum acknowledges the documents recently and that a lowercase had widespread criminality and were in crone's words faithful to your case and that your position was very perilous? >> mr. crone did use those words around the evidence being signaled to our case. but again at no point in that memorandum was it mentioned for example widespread criminality with respect to the phone hacking and those crucial details from the leading counsel of the opinion that had been left out in that memorandum of

we had obviously been aware of and have seen the situation and also gordon taylor.ia were very much aware that the study from the celebrity awareness viewpoint, and there was going to be an issue. but of course not realizing until we were informed about hacking in our situation that it spread much more today to speak and how did you feel about the fact that there were other people whose phones have also been hacked? what impact did that have on your case? >> well, fundamentally everybody is entitled to a degree of privacy in their private life. it is a deep concern that our private life became public, but i think also the other people who are in the public eye their private life became public as well. >> we know that in time you instructed mark lewis. can you just explain how you came to instruct mr. lewis? >> it was during the trial, just before the trial we found out about milly's phone being attacked. when we were giving that information was terrible to process because what do you do with that inflation when it is in your mind? i was worried about the forthcoming

myler would have told me spirit did you ask any meeting who the hell is this gordon taylor? >> i don't recall if i asked. i recall being aware of it at the time. what it was prior or maybe where any meaning who mr. taylor was i don't recall spent do you know what he did for a living? >> i was told. as i just said to you to be clear, i don't know if i had a lot of knowledge about mr. taylor's role. >> the one thing that really, that really showed us and i think any 10 year old that the "news of the world" line did not stand up with the fact according to was not a member of the royal family or the royal household. so did you not say well he is not royal? >> i think the point here is not so much whether or not i was told gordon taylor was, but really what, you know, when i came to news corporation in 2007, what didn't happen was, i did not receive a briefing on all the matters in 2006, december 2007 i was aware that the editor had resigned over these things, taepodong to jail, one of them was a reporter. the details involving the royal family, that was the royal reporter, those