it doesn't help that is the gorgon stair. it's very much intentional and all these systems have very formidable names, civilian gorgon stair which is not been as far as we know deployed domestically and active operations although we know that fbi and department of homeland security have taken a great interest in it but it's called vigilance there. it's tony it down very much but it's also constant or blue devil as i mentioned, angelfire, there's a lot of greek mythology there. >> its history teaches them anything it changes it to something boring but they get scrutinized. >> but it further doesn't help other things we touched on is that the programs are predicated on race. in religion. you know, i'm curious when you interview [inaudible] they talk about transparency and as someone who supports this supports transparency along these lines for what they doing to get to these fundamental questions? is there -- do you see a way for them to strip out some of these were obviously problematic components, i suppose, such as it would

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