there may be some link, but it seems the bigger one is that the federal gorman in some shape and form, based on the population in prison today, which one-third is illegal aliens, is to enforce federal laws. in the state of california, and one-third of the california prison population are illegal aliens, committing basically felonies. two, a light to bring up that the police department does not act on itself. there are other crimes related communities. i would like to see the police department expands the special police -- the police officer is about that are doing the work, but that is being done by regular police officers right now. it would relieve some of the pain, where according to the civil grand jury, we will be phased into bankruptcy bose -- based but -- on those pensions of the policemen and firemen. if you look at the 10 most wanted men, you will not find any caucasians on it, or you will find one or two. they are mostly others. how are you going to catch these people. those are the facts. so to be sensitive about situations like this, i am not sensitive to the criminal. i a

there may be some link, but it seems the bigger one is that the federal gorman in some shape and form, based on the population in prison today, which one-third is illegal aliens, is to enforce federal laws. in the state of california, and one-third of the california prison population are illegal aliens, committing basically felonies.

. >> i see shimon gorman in the audience who wrote a fantastic piece on intelligence preparation in the battlefield, in this case the electric power and the like. what could the incentive be other than to map out potential targets? i put that on the table for what it's worth. >> getting back to the dhs-nsa relationship, that has to be solid. dhs needs to play in a proper role for domestic activity. with regard to insurance, i am not an insurance bureau and i don't work for financial services committee but we have talked with insurance providers on how we increase the market's ability to increase cyber insurance. the answer we usually get back as we will get there. the market will take care of itself, they say but we have also heard that actuarial data is extremely hard to get into this area with in this issue because people are loathe to share information. there is a provision in our language regard to the charter that says information on incidents of shared with nysa will be collected and made available -- the organization to make provisions for providing that information for study and

. >> i see shimon gorman in the audience who wrote a fantastic piece on intelligence preparation in the battlefield, in this case the electric power and the like. what could the incentive be other than to map out potential targets? i put that on the table for what it's worth. >> getting back to the dhs-nsa relationship, that has to be solid. dhs needs to play in a proper role for domestic activity. with regard to insurance, i am not an insurance bureau and i don't work for financial services committee but we have talked with insurance providers on how we increase the market's ability to increase cyber insurance. the answer we usually get back as we will get there. the market will take care of itself, they say but we have also heard that actuarial data is extremely hard to get into this area with in this issue because people are loathe to share information. there is a provision in our language regard to the charter that says information on incidents of shared with nysa will be collected and made available -- the organization to make provisions for providing that information for study and

[laughter] hatch and john gorman -- jon cornyn tried to educate their colleagues. were serious matters considered. it was not all just rhetoric. but will pick point in general -- there is a lot of talk that the 30,000 foot level and not much analysis at the ground level. >> but about political practice -- >> my point is there were moments in the debates where there were substantive issues that got debated. >> they were brief moments but they were moments. [laughter] >> in answer to dugs question, one always thinks of the competition, rather of a different ideologies are different organization -- the other guys always have the most money. i think it is different in marketing and communications, but when it comes to the core work doing original, important research, i think the resource constraint is human-resources as opposed to financial resources. i never felt in all of my -- i look around at all of the think tanks on both sides of the aisle. it seems to me the tough thing is finding people that have the unusual mix of abilities who are unwilling -- who are willing