prelogar: yes. >> justice gorsuch? justice gorsuch: i just wanted to make re understood your position with respect to some of the gnarly language in this statute, which is iv modify. affected individuals to ensure they're not placed in the worse position fincily because of the covid crisis. you wod ree that doesn't authorize the secretary to place persons in a better position than they were, because of the covid crisis? ms. prelogar: s igree that the purpose is tenre that they're not worse off, but i would disagree in so far as it's clear that he can provide classified relief. so, if it turns out that the end of the day that some individuals are geinrelief that turned that wouldn't have needed it ngss tolerated that and, in fact, encourage the secretars -- justice gorsuch: you think the statute is not just authorizing the secretary to place people in the same position that they were prior to an emergency but to allow the crary to place persons in a better position than they were prior than they were? msprelogar: no, i'

prelogar: yes. >> justice gorsuch? justice gorsuch: i just wanted toake sure i understood your position with respect to some of the gnarly language in this statute,hi is waiver modify. affected individuals to ensure they're not placed in the worse poti financially because of the covid crisis. u would agree that doesn't authorize the secretary pce persons in a better position than they were, because of the covid crisis? ms. prelogar: so, i agree that the puosis to ensure that they're not worse off, but i would disagree in so far as it's clear that he can provide classified relief. so, if it turns out that the end of the day that some individuals e getting relief that turned that wouldn't haveeed it, congress tolerated that and, in fact, encourage thseetaries -- justice gorsuch: you think the statute is not just authorizing the secretary to place people in the same position that they were prior to an emergency but to lothe secretary to place persons in a better position than they were prior than they were? ms. prelogar:

justice gorsuch: thank you. if they could the guidelines , are gone. that does t an ice officers or dhs could not more informally say, we are going to exercise or -- our prosecutorial discretions not to institute removal proceedings against is particular noncitizen. general stone: that might be the case. that wldave been the kind of evidence that would ha attacked our redressability that had petitioners submitted that to district courts- >> your burden is outstanding, right? general stone: we did find support finding e usal relationship between actual enforcement actions and this memorandum including 22 emails specifically citing the guidelines as a reason for removing detainers. justice barrett: why would the the causal relationshi the chain broken in the sense that you have voluntary decision-making by texas, say, inelation to the criminal justice costs that you feel compelled, or you want to go after individual people? in other words, aren't costs associated with texas' decision to inccete or parole certain noncitizens if the federal government deci

ste gorsuch? >> i understood the office of gal counsel's memorand t suggest that the secretary under the statute had authority to put student borrowers in the same condition that they were in prior to the emergency and the nature of your arguments that test is not met. you agree with the position and understanding of the statute and how you argue that it succeeded that authority? >> your hori disagree with most everything in the opinion but i agree with thapa. i think it is right that that is what the phrase no worse position means. it means congrs s telling the secretary that he had the thity to keep ourors near the status quo. but what we have here is a program th for 20 million boows will leave them without a single outstanding lo. that goes well beyond putting them back in the status o. and for the other approxite 20 million borrowers that stand to benefit from this, their average debt is going to go from $29,000 to $13,000. again, far beyond returning to the status quo. >> i understand the se

justice neil gorsuch mentioning -- >> people who have paid their loans, people who don't -- plan their lives around not seeking loans, and people who are not eligible for loans in the first place, and that half a trillion dollars is being diverted to one group of favored persons over others. >> reporter: but to justice sonia sotomayor, the future without this plan looks bleak. >> there's a -- 50 million students who are -- will benefit from this, who today will struggle. they don't have friends or families or others who can help them make these payments. >> reporter: david, there is no question that the conservative supermajority on this court seems poised to strike down this program, and white house officials have been saying that they have not discussed options. there is no plan b. david? >> terry moran in washington tonight. terry, thank you. >>> we turn now to news involving iran and its nuclear capability. tonight, a top pentagon official testifying that iran could now make enough nuclear material for a bomb in just 12 days now. let's bring in our senior white house correspondent

. >> justice gorsuch? haven't had a an to discuss120 too much, and if you like your thoughts on that. in particular, if we were to agree with you n at, do we have to address your standing arguments well on its merits? >> i think that if the court agreed with this on the scope of :51 f one, but they could say that nonstop. that's also a jurisdiction threshold issue in this case. >> is it jurisdictional? we've had somequestion about that left term have you recall as well. on of the instance of media limitation over remedial options for this court, and ether it is truly a jurisdictional statue. >> we think it is clearly a jusdictional obstacle to answer in a form of relief. the country -- and the jurisdictional csequences for provisions like this one, which can take particular remedies off the table. in2:50, two it says that the court shall not have jurisdiction to have these kinds of orders which enjoy or overt restrain. think it clearly functions a jurisdictional lemon. >> and your friend on the other sie h

elizabeth: i think justice gorsuch is a person that we will be listing two.e has a long history of textual interpretation that sticks to statutory language and he has ruled in ways that progressives like. he has also ruled in ways that conservatives like. when it comes to statutory analysis, i think also keep justice roberts wrote the major questions in the west virginia versus epa case. he used the word studded applies in extraordinary cases in that opinion. it will be interesting to see his view on whether that applies here. there are justices who will be interesting on the standing question. we will be looking to see both the conservative and more liberal justices on that particular question because that's a question you have to get through before you get to the merit. if there could be some cross ideological agreement on the standing questions, then what might be a ideological divides on the merits would not come to pass. host: it sounds like the first case, most of that case a lot of the questions will be about standing. giancarlo: i imagine that the ind

maybe those would be favored persons, justice gorsuch is talking about it.ottom 60% of wage earners. but it is also true that the cost of college has been on the rise for decades now for every one. an average earnings for young adults in their twenties have failed dramatically to keep up. it is also true that united states total student debt has been rising for decades and currently tops 1.7 trillion dollars. at this rate, experts expect it to pass three trillion by 2035, which is just a massive volume of national debt and it's something that impacts the entire country. and the biden administration officials have been warning that some of the reasons they launched this debt forgiveness plan was to address the growing debt crisis and to reduce the likelihood that about 18 million borrowers at risk of defaulting on their loans, to reduce the chance that those borrowers actually fail to make their payments. because what would a default of that scale mean for the american economy for all of us? whether we have student loans or not. i know exactly the person i sh

whatever that, was it was not about neil gorsuch. >> look, i understand.me, i just don't even know subconsciously right now for colored by our own expenses. but you the way, i take both your points. thank you very much. now, to this. fox news channel under a microscope after revelations that their top hosts knowingly pushed donald trump's election lies. but isn't even surprising? to the people who work there? like i did? and two of my former fox news colleagues, including margaret, are gonna join me to discuss this. my name is joshua florence, and one thing i learned being a firefighter is plan ahead. you don't know what you're getting into, but at the end of the day, you know you have a team behind you that can help you. not having to worry about the future makes it possible to make the present as best as it can be for everybody. plates. plates. plates. there's somehow no better way to travel this place, than on a plate. and when you add price drop protection, expedia pays you back if your flight becomes cheaper. so you can taste your way, through every s

johnson: leading the charge probably in favor of protection of the navajo nation would be justice gorsuchom colorado, he is very attuned to the needs of tribal nations within the united states. he is also a textualist on the treaties themselves. and he says if the treaties say that we protect the water rights for the navajo nation, then we absolutely need to protect those rights. soledad: let's talk about affirmative action because i think that is the big one, which is the supreme court's going to basically kill affirmative action. prof. johnson: it really is simply asking the court one question, and that is please reconsider your decision where it said, not that there can be quotas, but that race can simply be an additional factor in admissions. and that would be a factor like it would be if you were a good trombonist or you were a good basketball player. many folks believe it's a foregone conclusion and i don't think that there's anything to disabuse us of that notion. soledad: internet free speech, this one seems complicated to me. prof. johnson: it really is a simple question of wheth

justice sotomayor, justice kagan, justice gorsuch? >> thank you counsel. ms. blatt, rebuttal. >> thank you mr. chief justice. justice alito all trademarks are exprsive. they have speech rights and every time you infringe them it's gng to implicate speech by definion. what the other side, and i don't hear you talking about is the half of speech no one likes, the pornography and the poison and it'sard for me to see how you can say that the trademark owner doesn't have an interesin something that approach is compelled speech if it's been used inor films and sex toys and people are proti off of that. in terms of where we are going with the message versus the product, the t-shirt example, there is very entertaining case on pe5 rejecting parody and itnvves the miami vice t-shirt that's turned into miami vice. ve funny, no one wouldhink it's confusing because they are cartoon mice so there'slenty of t-shirts tt don't meet that confusion. the first,eventh, tenth dc circuit have notdopted rogers. there's a case we cited on page 11 on the seventh circuit and it's a case

justice gorsuch brought up that point. >> always cost of government of offering that benefit. >> not just the cost of the government, i think they argue that is missing is cost to other persons in terms of fairness, people who paid their loans, who don't have -- plan their lives around not seeking loans. and people who not el eligible for loans and a trillion is diverted to a group over the other. kennedy: he is right, chief justice roberts questioned whether the president has the power to do this. >> most observers say if you give up that money, affect the obligations of that many americans, they would think that is something for congress to acto. kennedy: liberal justice kagan disagreed saying that the president has the authority. >> we deal with con congressional statutes every day that are really confusing this one is not. >> this one is not. what do regular people think. remember when a guy confronted senator liz warren in 2020. >> my daughter is getting out of school, i saved all my money. >> god bless her. >> am i getting my money back. >> of course not. >> so you are paying f

justice neil gorsuch asked whether that undermines basic fairness. >> i think what the argument is missingcost to other persons in terms of fairness, people who paid their loans, people who don't -- plan their lives around not seeking loans and people who are not eligible for loans in the first place. and that half a trillion dollars is being diverted to one group of favored persons over others. >> reporter: so a lot on the line for millions of borrowers. if the supreme court upholds this program, debt cancellation could come pretty quickly because the biden administration has already approved 16 million applications. but based on the questioning of this conservative court, it does appear the court is set to strike down this program and of course that would end debt relief at least for now for millions of americans. at the supreme court, jessica schneider, cnn, washington. >>> new study finds just 11 minutes of moderate to vigorous aerobic activity per day could have lasting benefits including lower risk of cancer or premature death. data from nearly 200 studies followed more than 30 milli

said they can sue under the americans with disability act for money damages, justice gorsuch noting this ruling will have a major impact on children across the country. >> unanimous decision. terry, thank you so much for bringing that vital information. >> coming up, gwyneth paltrow in court being sued by a man who says she slammed into him on the ski slopes. leaving him injured. she is countersueing. now find out when she might take the stand. >> a development overnight in mysterious death of stephen smith. >> and an incredible survival after their sailboat was hit by a whale sinking it in just minutes. first, let's go back to sam. good morning. >> good morning. we're going to follow this storm. our 12th. in new england on saturday, some snow and heavier rain along the coastline. it's a rod day on saturday. before that, it's finally spring. i want to show you 76 degrees in washington, d.c., on thursday. so close to 80, it will really push those blossoms. here's what you can expect this morning. ♪ ♪ drew: i am meteorological drew tuma. with your accuweather forecast. slick condition

and a former clerk to neil gorsuch, what is your take on this? shout him down and it is lead by an associate dean for diversity for inclusion? and she is the ring leader getting these cupcake students fired up, saying the most crude and obnoxious things. this dean should face a complaint with the california bar and they should face discipline with stanford, university. the dean should be fired. they should be disciplined. the most crude and obnoxious ones should be punished. their clients and law firms are going to know about this. they're going to pay a price for this and we're going to make sure that happens. >> here is jonathan's take from yesterday. >> they did an interview recently with a 90-year-old republican professor like they discovered a white buffalo on the plains. they poked this poor guy with sticks describing what a republican is like to students at harvard. and that is what we're facing in academia. there are very few alternative views given to students. >> my question is is this an isolated incident or is it happening all over th

that is how we got justices neil gorsuch, brett kavanaugh, and amy coney barrett through trump's judge whisperer. through leonard leo. and in an epic new report today politico gave new meaning to ginni thomas' statement about leo. soon after leo became trump's advisor in 2016 he amassed a sort of unnatural amount of wealth. he bought two multi-million dollar mansions in maine, four new cars, spots in private schools for his children and a wine locker at morton's steakhouse. i don't know what a wine locker is but it sounds fancy and also unnecessary. mr. leo certainly didn't tell the public how he bought all of that, but thanks to politico we now have a pretty good idea. leo's personal wealth appears to have skyrocketed in tandem to major victories on the road. one day after the senate took a controversial procedural vote clearing the way for kavanaugh's appointment to replace kennedy, that was the day leonard leo bought his first mansion up in the state of maine. that lifestyle upgrade was reportedly funded by leo's network of non-profit organizations. based on dozens of records from 2

he was talking about supreme court neil gorsuch.ll of those people protesting free speech are going to be on camera. they've gone on the record with this. it will be tough for them to get a job. >> isn't that amazing? >> sandra: think about that. good to have you here, joe. >> outstanding. i like yellow on you. spring is almost hear. >> sandra: i think we're all done with the dash colors. emerging into the spring months. it's still the middle of march and there's still snow on the ground. >> and wind. lot of wind. >> sandra: all right. john? >> john: i was about to say, dual weather threats on both coasts and nor'easter slamming the northeast. that's where nor'easters are supposed to slam. while the west gets padded by another atmospheric river shutting down roads and bridges. don't look now but there could be more on the way. >> sandra: wait for it. first it was those gas stoves. now the white house could be coming for your washing machine and your clothes could be stinkier and dirtier but a of it. we'll explain just ahead. veteran

but justice neil gorsuch asked whether that undermines basic fairness. >> what i think the argument is missing is cost to other persons in terms of fairness for example. people who have paid their loans, people who don't -- who plan their lives around not seeking loans and people not eligible for loans in the first place. and that half a trillion is being diverted to one group of favored persons over others. >> reporter: so a lot on the line for millions of borrowers. if the supreme court upholds this program, debt cancellation could come pretty quickly because the biden administration has already approved 16 million applications. but based on the questioning of this conservative court, it does appear the court is set to strike down this program and of course that would end debt relief at least for now for millions of americans. jessica schneider, cnn, washington. >>> today the jury in the alex murdaugh trial set to visit the defendant's property where his wife and youngest son were murdered. jurors last heard from a forensics expert who disputed key testimony from the denies. randi ka

if you look at neil gorsuch allright, that is a possibility, but patrick harker too, i don't think hedissent, but i do think this chair is very committed to keeping consensus, and he has a way of convincing his colleagues, the voters on the fomc to send a singular message. so, yes, there is the slight possibility, but i do think they're going to be in agreement more broadly. guy: very nice to catch up. thank you very much for your time. high-frequency economics chief u.s. economist rubeela farooqi. sure to tune in 1:30 p.m. new york time for our full coverage of the fed decision. some great guests. this is bloomberg. ♪ when you automate sales tax with avalara, you don't have to worry about things like changing tax rates or filing returns. avalarahhh ahhh c'mon ref, that's a foul! jay? jay's back? gimme a time out. huddle up! i call the time outs. didn't expect to see me so soon, huh? well, i invest in a fund that fuels innovation, like next gen video conferencing, and when i saw your defense in the first half, i had to step in! anyone can become an agent of innovation with invesco qqq

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i'm so glad you mentioned -- sorry to cut you off, churches and closures during covid because ari, gorsuch and kavanaugh, the casinos are open, the church doors are shut, it doesn't take supreme court justices to do that. it should be in the heart of americans, the cultural heart, houses of worship, even if you are not a person of faith they are important for those who do process faith. >> i am glad this segment has come up. for all the hard news there is also news like this that endures and it really scratches the itch of what is wrong with america, the lack of patriotism, our feelings about cultural matters and personal family matters. there is a reason we look back in time and call one generation of americans the greatest generation. and when you talk about them being the greatest, what made them great? they defeated the nazis, what were their morals, they are a religious people, they were married, they had all the patriotism, it's the very thing this poll talks about prevalent into the 90s brought to us by the greatest generation by the baby boomers, we slid away from it. it's a feelin

>> one of them is gorsuch is -- one of them is episcopalian, raised catholic. talk about diversity.ought. there are one or two people in the entire congress -- >> i think there are more than that. >> not that they will say. like says in the 1950 house, there were no gay people. >> of course. >> they just weren't out with it. >> i have a feeling obama is not a super christian like -- help used to say the first thing in the morning he had a scripture -- on his blackberry. and he said, my mother is a humanannist. >> yeah, i was raised catholic. i went through the rigamarole. i paid my dues, jake. >> agnosticism makes more sense to me. look, i have no idea. >> it's the same thing. >> atheism is there's nothing there. >> no, atheism, and theism is believe in a god. i don't know. >> that issin agnostic. and even richard dawkins, says on a scale of 1 to 7 and 7 is total certainty there is no god, it's a 6.9. we don't know. there are so many questions we can't answer. and i know that. i mean, of course we -- what an k atheist says -- >> if your dad is out there, watching this, i think he wo

. >> joyce, i was astounded with the complaints from justices robert and gorsuch about, quote, fairnesse justices did not seem to take that into consideration when they overturned roe v. wade in the dobbs case, which impacted millions of americans. isn't it intellectually and legally dishonest to talk about fairness when the text of the heroes act less body to do exactly what he wants to do here? >> you know, what justice roberts is calling fairness there is really republican policy arguments. for wider biden should not have made this decision. and the supreme court is not a policy making body. the issue of whether it is fair to relax student loan requirements has been done in industries. there has been relief in the auto industry, relief in the airline industry, tax breaks for the wealthiest americans. so that is the fairness arguments about whether something should be done here for student debt holders. and that argument belongs in the congress of the united states, which chose not to act. with the president did here was take action that the administration believes was warranted by th

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, barrett asked a question that made it seem maybe she would care about it and maybe kavanaugh or gorsucheing the sort of my art was congress clearly just wanted to do this. >> okay, one last question here as i quickly turn to the doj. in a court of appeals filing, doj attorney said donald trump can base of a lawsuits for his role in the january 6th insurrection. in your new op-ed, you answered the question, did the doj just say don trump could be held accountable for generates? with, well kind of. explain, that what does that, mean how big a deal is this? >> sure. media big. deal so the simple thing that they said is, all the people, and are many of them including members of congress, who sued for money damages. they can sue. him the basic doctrine is, he has immunity when he is doing presidential things, but exhorting people to ride on the capital is not a presidential thing. so that is for civil. now, the big point it's going to come for criminal, and then the laws and settled there. so, if some of that points that they made in the civil case they make a criminal case, it could get dic

justice neil gorsuch was fixated on the idea of fairness, whether the biden plan was fair. what i think they argue that is missing is costs to other persons in terms of fairness. for example, people who have paid their loans, people who have planned their lives around not seeking loans, and people who are not eligible for loans in the first place and that a half a trillen dollars is being diverted to a one group of favored persons over others. one group of favored persons over others. if you help one group you are somehow harming the others. that seems to be the argument. here's the thing, it is true that studies show biden's plan would give 74% of forgiveness to households with incomes below $82,000. those families are in the bottom 60% of wage earners, but it is also true that the cost of college has been on the rise for decades now for everyone, and average earnings for young adults in their 20s have failed dramatically to keep up. it is also true that the united states total student it debt has been rising for decades and currently tops $1.7 trillion. at this rate exper

but justices gorsuch, kavanaugh, and co-, appear unmoved by that fact, even though trump himself claimedents back in 2020. and let's not lose sight of what is it stake. here is analysis compiled by senator elizabeth warren's office revealed, before the speed republican lawsuits froze the cancellation program, more than 98% of applications came from zip codes where the average income is under $75,000. and about two thirds were from neighborhoods with an average income below 40,000. and more applications per capita came from communities of color than from majority white communities. joining me now is wisdom coal, national director of the naacp youth and college division. wisdom, it's good to have you. thank you so much for joining us. conservatives always like to talk about student loan forgiveness in this is white people that are gonna be giving those two loans forgiven for basket weaving or doing yoga or, masters in some unwanted degree. but as we have seen, that is a far cry from reality. >> exactly. the real reality is that it's poor black and brown people that are taking out salons to

the chief justice and justice neil gorsuch and several others kind of talked about just how fair is itgiving the loan balances for people who were able to go to college, when taxpayers who might have not had the opportunity to go to college and not had the earning power that results from it, will not have it. so we will see a decision later this spring, but a lot hangs in the balance. >> yeah. we are going to of to interrupt you. >>> let's go straight to the white house, president biden officially introducing his nominee for labor secretary, the current deputy labor secretary julie su. let's listen in. >> i'm going to close my eyes and pretend you are clapping for me. please, have a seat. i think they like you. that's what i think. >> you see the -- right here. if, in fact, you were not picked to be the next secretary of labor i would be run out of town. first of all, let me say i don't know -- i see a lot of members of congress here who are -- and, by the way, they have a full day today, they're supposed to be in baltimore for a caucus up there and i don't want to start reading out na

the three liberal justices seem sympathetic and so did conservative justice neil gorsuch.ns on both sides. this case could have a profound impact, not only on the largest native american reservation, but on millions of people across the west who are facing an historic water crisis. the navajo nation sued the federal government 20 years ago now, seeking more access to water from the colorado river and other sources. nearly one in three navajos is without running water. they argue, among other things, the united states is in breach of an 1868 treaty which came after u.s. troops forcibly relocated the majority of navajo men, women and children from arizona to new mexico in a brutal and violent military campaign. in 2021 a san francisco appeals court handed them the victory but the biden administration appealed as did nevada, arizona and colorado. they want rights to the colorado river that flows along the navajo reservation's border. the decision in favor of the tribe would be hugely disruptive to their efforts to figure out how to distribute what is adminishing water source

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>> one of them i think is gorsuch, one of them is like a compelling in or was raised catholic. about diversity. how about diversity that really matters? diversity of thought. i think there's one or two people in the entire congress. >> oh, i think there's more than that. >> and they'll say it? >> that's like saying in the 1950 house there were no gay people. >> yeah there were, they're just run out. >> i've a sneaky feeling obama is not really a super christian like he said. he used to say, well, the first thing in the morning i get scripture on my blackberry. really? >> well, somebody sent it to him. >> somebody said to him, okay. he said my mother was a humanist, wink wink, humanist. i mean, look. >> but your dad with catholic, your mom was jewish? >> yes, i was raised catholic. i went through the rigmarole. i paid my dues, jack. >> agnosticism makes more sense to me, the idea that, look, i have no idea. that makes more sense to me that it is a. >> the same thing, almost. >> atheism is there's nothing there. >> no, no, you're wrong. atheism means atheism. >> i have no beliefs

the other fascinating thing is that neil gorsuch, during his confirmation hearing, talk about what a textualist he is, which means, he likes to look at the text of the federal law, -- in this instance, if you look at the heroes act, it gives biden's plan total cover and legitimacy to do what he wants to do. the the problem is this. the justices are looking for a result. they scream all the time. they being the conservative justices about how you cannot have activist judges on the bench. you cannot have judges that are trying to pursue a specific result. that is exactly what the supreme court justices are doing here. legally speaking, biden can make this happen, he could save this plan. but if this ultraconservative, super majority conservative scotus right now says, no, biden is stuck the mud, and can't go anywhere. the only thing that stuck out, -- before i stop speaking, is fairness. you heard a few justices talk about fairness. you heard justices roberts talk about, how far is it that somebody gets a business loan, and doesn't get loan forgiveness, but somebody takes out a student

in a case challenging president biden's student debt forgiveness plan, supreme court justice neil gorsuchd the program was unfair and failed to take into account people who had paid off their loans or never had them yeah can someone, for once, think of the people who never had student loans? [ laughter ] when do they get a break that's like saying, "no tinder it's not fair to the people who already get laid." [ laughter ] television provider dish network confirmed yesterday that a previous outage was caused by a cyber security breach and not, as customers assumed, by a gentle rain. [ laughter ] dictionary.com yesterday unveiled new entries, including the word woke. "still not going to look it up," said republicans [ laughter ] a florida woman was arrested last week after she told deputies during a traffic stop she had drugs in her body cavity and removed nearly 11 grams of crystal meth said the cops, "ma'am, we pulled you over for a broken taillight. [ laughter and applause "still, pretty impressive, though, officers." [ laughter ] fast food chain kfc today announced the return of the dou

this is what gorsuch has told us. >> great to have you there.an tiger reported with the latest on that story. coming up, goldman sachs sets up to breathe new life into a stock with the fate of its -- this is bloomberg. >> there were some clear successes but there were also some clear stumbles. on the direct to consumer businesses, we found it more challenging. it became clear we lacked certain competitive advantages and that we did too much too quickly. >> just in case you did not know. david solomon there in new york. sue keenan is here with a closer look. >> they certainly tried to focus on the strengths of their bank. check out how goldman did. it was down close to 4%. they asked what they would do with them. they will try to emphasize the positive. this is now called platform solutions. it is expected to become profitable on a pretax basis. huge layoffs in january. they are hitting their asset wealth management targets. >> most of their clients are very concerned. they it -- they see it being more persistent and businesses. >> goldman has be

thomas and neil gorsuch have a real sense of urgency to move further further further to the right and very fast, which is against his style. very quickly . there is maneuvering between the justices here even though they abhor the mention that they engage in sort of this for that you reveal how they do it. they do in poppy. during the trump years. there was almost a paradox. they didn't want to seem political. but they engaged in more packs and, uh, delayed cases and tried to sort of do things behind the scenes that would make them appear less political. and that's where some of the justices on the far right felt like the court was going to lose its integrity but to some, including the chief, it was the only way to avoid the partisan abyss. yeah and you get into examples of him engaging in this as well, joan. it's a fascinating read again. here it is. nine black robes. it comes out next week. april 4th. congratulations, joan. thank you. poppy needs to know more about the court, literally just because it's so she takes you into their chambers and what i find fascinating. these justices

seriously and then you had gorsuch and kagan who are like you don't get involved in this more like ie, but like, can we keep this to a lower court? but you had this interesting conservative liberal matchups you again. you you could hear in their tone, not just the transcript. and so it's hard to predict how this will go. but it seemed like i don't know. generally speaking ill. i'll be surprised by scs ruling comes into effect agree that it was interesting to hear them because we got to hear some supreme court humor there. they were really yucking it up, congressman so first off one owner of a dog named baxter tells me that they received this to toys specifically and the dog hated it. i thought that that was just it's an important data point. secondly i would agree with that. see on the legal analysis. it's a lot of work to go through. you know the trademark. there's a reason why we have this trademark. law in place. there is an impact on the brand new and i think that jack daniels will likely be successful. we'll see where it goes. i mean, obviously, if we're going to talk any more a

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