and they contain secret gospels such as the gospel of thomas, the gospel of philip.also contain conversations between jesus and his disciples that claim to go back to jesus and his disciples-- all kinds of literature from the early christian era, a whole discovery of text rather like the new testament, but also very different. >> christianity, or one would rather say christianities, of the second and third centuries were, again, a highly variegated phenomenon. we really can't imagine christianity as a unified, coherent, religious movement. >> we probably ought to think of it as a kind of regional diversity. that is, the christianity of rome was different than christianity in north africa in certain ways, and that was different from what we find in egypt, and that different from what we find in syria or back in palestine. >> narrator: some of the oldest christian communities were in western turkey, where paul and his followers had established many of the earliest congregations. at the end of the first century, christians here found themselves in a confrontation with r

>> the gospel john has something entirely different. the gospel of john has no nitrile. the gospel john after jesus is ambushed simply has jesus led to a brief conversation before akafis who asks him about following and teaching and then goes to pileate. considering how busy the prices were at pass overwhen the temple was standing john's depiction is intrinsicically more plausible. >> well, all this seems to say that the brame, if that's the right word, the culpability for christ's death that has been affixed to the jews over the years that has spawned antisemitism, that that is unfounded on the basis of scholarship because the only connection between pilate and the san hedron was kifis who said to pileate saying we have something serious and it was pileate who ordered the crews i figures. am i getting too far ahead of you. >> you're bledding a lot of big ideas but that's fun, it's ok. the interesting thing when you get the jews blamed for jesus' death that again is an accusation that develops in the second century from the way that are readying the gospel stories. >> ra

gospels. long in a library. they were copied and read by the monks. the archbishop sent a letter out to the monks and said you can keep 27 of them. the other books that he told them to destroy were hidden. >> the gnostic gospels and their stories about jesus remained hidden for nearly 1600 years. they were discovered by an egyptian farmer digging for fertilizer. over the centuries other streers were written by jesus they were known as the apock federal -- apocryphal gospels. professor of religious studies california state university. >> they believe just like christians do jesus was born to mary who was a virgin. mary is the only woman mentioned by name in the koran. is mentioned more by name in the koran than in the new testament. >> of the four new testament gospels only two feature the nativity story. the gospel according to luke tells the roman emperor augustus caesar journey from nazareth to bethlehem wrapped in swaddling clothes and laid in a manger. inhe gospel according to matthew joef

scholars say yes -- to a degree. >> when we look at the gospel of matthew and the gospel of luke, wean see that there are about 12 pieces of information, 12 facts that they share in common that they both know about jesus' early years. they both know that his mother is mary, that the father or stepfather is joseph, that they're from the family of david, that the birth took place in bethlehem. so they have this string, a skeleton of information about the very formative years of jesus and his conception. but they don't have much beyond that. ♪ >> sadly, the birthplace of the man christians call the prince of peace is often a war zone, as it has been for centuries. but the manger that generations of pilgrims have sought out is a bit of a shock -- a stone grotto that doesn't look much like a cozy stable. ♪ caves like this one pockmark the region where bethlehem lies. but one scholar suggests that we've got the wrong address. there is another bethlehem, one that borders joseph and mary's home territory of nazareth. >> that suggests to me that this is the bethlehem that we ought to be looki

the gnostic gospels are gospels of wisdom. the new testament gospels care about salvation from sin.out salvation from ignorance. the new testament gospels look to stimulate faith. the gnostic gospels look to stimulate knowledge and insight. >> gnosticism held a fascination for many christians for another reason. its gospels seemed to offer a more female-friendly faith. >> it was the gnostics that thought the role of the female as an image and the role of women within the church should be advanced so that god is not only male, god is also female. there are not only male leaders, there are female leaders. there are not only male priests, there are female priests, and in this way, there is a kind of gender balance found in these texts. >> that balance is not found in the gnostic gospel of thomas, where peter asks jesus to send mary magdalene on her way, for women aren't worthy of apostolic life. >> and jesus replies, "leave her alone for i shall make her a male, for every woman who becomes a male will enter into the kingdom of god." this isn't a very liberating view of women, and not o

the first gospel named after a woman. write it, these words from the gospel itself put mary in direct conflict with peter. quote, did he really speak privately with a woman and not openly to us, peter asked? are we to turn about and all listen to her? did he prefer her to us? >> the gospel of mary makes the strongest argument for women's leadership probably any text in all of antiquity precisely because it argues that leadership should be based on one's interior spiritual maturity and not on whether one is a man or a woman. >> so does this mean mary magdalene, rather than peter, could be the first pope? >> that is a bizarre idea that mary magdalene is the first pope. she is the first easter witness and that is a decisive moment, but people didn't use the word "pope" then and peter was clearly the leader of that core group of 12. >> other scholars, even those who dispute the authority of the gnostic gospels, say the new texts do reflect some kind of internal church battle, one that has echoes for women 1800 years later. >>

.'" >> narrator: ...and then retold in accounts by later believers in the gospels. >> "the gospel according to st. luke." >> narrator: so began the building of a religion. now it is our turn, with the help of scholars and historians, theologians and archaeologists, to return to that time and use our best efforts to understand that story... of a man born in obscurity in whose name a faith was made. >> narrator: we know so little about him-- that he was born more than 2,000 years ago, and that he lived in palestine. we know he was baptized and became a preacher. and we know that he was publicly executed. >> ( dramatized ): what manner of man is this that even the winds and the seas obey him? >> narrator: with so little evidence to go by, archaeologists must sift the clues, and scholars decode the stories told by the first followers of jesus. >> the problem for any historian in trying to reconstruct the life of jesus is simply that we don't have sources that come from the actual time of jesus himself. >> the historian's task in understanding jesus and the jesus movement and early christianity

thelaim has been it's based on the gospels but the gospels aren't really a screenplay or a treatmentof a screenplay, they're a very, very brief outline for such a movie and he took a lot of the scenes directly from her vision. >> summarized a an awful lot, brentano published her writings and then they were enlarged upon and what you have at the end, according is that the net resuln that much of this is about fiction as opposed to being in any way drawn from the -- in any real way drawn from the gospels. >> well, that's right. and that's what so silly about this claim of mel gibson and frankly of some others including billy graham who's claimed when he saw the film he felt like he was a bystander, like it was a real tv documentary or something. this is clearly a film that comes out of the visions of a lot of people, mel gibson one of them, and this emmer rick person another. >> this goes actually a little bit further, this piece written by o'malley, john w. o'malley, a jesuit. he said the emmer rick-brentano papers are perhaps best treated as devout fiction or well intentioned frauds.

the gospels are equally clear that it's not a ghost. i mean, even though the raised jesus walks through a shut door in one of the gospels, or suddenly materializes in the middle of a conference his disciples are having, he's at pains to assure them, "touch me, feel me, it's bones and flesh." in luke, he eats a piece of fish. ghosts can't eat fish. as an historian, this doesn't tell me anything about whether jesus himself was actually raised. but what it does give me an amazing insight into is his followers, and, therefore, indirectly, into the leader who had forged these people into such a committed community. >> narrator: according to the book of acts, christianity began at a single place, at a single moment in time. 50 days after the death of jesus, now known as pentecost, a miraculous event took place. >> ( dramatized ): and suddenly from heaven, there came a sound like the rush of a violent wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. divided tongues, as of fire, appeared among them, and a tongue rested on each of t

we love gospel music, you know. world, john. what was the time that you sat there and said wow, our lives have really changed when you have twitter followers facebook fans in country every corner of the globe? >> it is surreal. we have had great experiences singing for 45,000 people with the houston symphony outside. cleveland pops. it's interesting when it's heiring in another country as it does we start to get facebook messages and fan mail from other countries when it's airing there. >> very cool. the audience will be happy to hear this afternoon you all get the texas tenor cd. free copy to everyone. here they are the texas it february nors performing white christmas. guys? ♪ i'm dreaming of a white christmas ♪ just like the ones i used to know ♪ may your days be merry and bright ♪ and may all your christmases be white ♪ i'm dreaming of a white christmas ♪ just like the ones i used to know ♪ where the treetops glisten ♪ and children listen ♪ to hear sleigh bells in the snow ♪ i'm dreaming of a white christmas ♪ w

we had a gospel quartet.stmas, little billy ray. you have a great name, billy ray cyrus, never gets old. what was it like? >> you know i think it was always about the spirit of christmas, that you know, christmas is about, you know. our savior being born and, hope for -- [applause] >> doesn't get the applause in church but gets it here from billy ray. good job. you had a chance, this kentucky kid had to spend quality time in new york in the middle of sandy and sandy smashes in. in what way did it affect awe and what way did new york surprise you?. >> being in the middle of new york city when sandy hit, it was a, like for everyone it was a really different and strange time but what i got to see was the resiliency and the will of the people of this area to stand up and love each other, to help each other, to rebuild this city. this city a great city. this area, the people are strong. [cheers and applause] when stuff happens, they get back up and they dealt with it, you know, as well and as fiercely as it could

i think actually the christian right for a very long time has and distorting the teachings of the gospel and i want to stop that is a true the jesus actually helped organize workers or at least advocated for workers' rights. really shined on the cross and wrote this great book about the discovery of a fishing boat in the galilee and about how various the space cyclone wrecking the fishing industry with all the roma picking money out of judea and so john dominic first pointed us his book to me that did jesus go all the way to the galilee to recruit people to the disciples when he could have very well stated nazareth and he went to recruit people who would actually get it that the kingdom of caesar is not the kingdom of god and those out of work why are they all standing around on the shore mending their nets well they're out of work they're poor and jesus recruits them in order to be disciples because there are people who will fundamentally understand see their kingdom of god. it's remarkable where. how should the bible be studied by modern christians who want a deeper understanding of. t

says teacher now than in the bible she disappears but in the gospel of mary and recent text that have been on earth and the more recent discoveries she is a not tussle and she is in a struggle with peter and other disciples to lead christian communities so jesus actually has you know is a wonderful teacher is mary martin and. heals women and it's it's really a just a shame. that also the church has not lifted up women's leadership the way jesus did and i and i have a chapter on that you know it seems like we're reading a history written by men about men form a sort of. going to thank you so much for being with us tonight if you are having me on that show it's catholic priest it thank you. now everything you know about the real teachings of jesus is right. good news everyone after more than thirty years of searching by the news media ronald reagan's end for most welfare queen has finally been found she lives in bentonville arkansas as reagan warmed to during his one nine hundred seventy six run for president about the nameless cadillac driving woman who's conning the social safety net.

she was unresponsive, until he started playing and singing hymns. >> her favorite gospel hymn would ben the sparrow," and i started to sing. and i sing because i'm happy. i sing because i'm free. his eye is on the sparrow. and i know he watches me. she sang with me. and when that was done, she looks up at me and she goes, "baby! when'd you get here?" when science and medicine couldn't bring my mother back to me, these hymns, these songs of faith that she shared with me, were the things that we shared together. ♪ >> reporter: according to armstrong, the choir sings to bring glory to god. and perhaps nowhere is that more evident than in their signature song, beautiful savior, an arrangement done by christiansen. >> that i think has been a song that can epitomize and has been a model for us throughout the years, why do we do this? we sing praise to god. glory and honor, praise, adoration, now and forevermore be thine. that is the focus of our work. >> reporter: when everything falls into place, armstrong says it's a spiritual experience. ♪ >> some people go to prayer and do that, but you

. >> he points out in the gospel story itself you don't find reference.appeared. >> the pope writes that jesus was born earlier than thought. six century monk miscalculated the date. >> gospel of matthew says that they had children less than two years old murdered from estimated when jesus was born. from that, if he died in 4 b.c. you count back two years. the scholars come up with six or seven b.c. for birth of christ. >> infancy narrative is desire for christians what renewed the faith. in new york, lauren green, fox news. >> doug: fox all-stars are here to discuss if mitt romney really wanted to be president? first, two gentlemen you know well are coming back to tackle gun control. i thought i'd start the video by showing you the apartment building where the fire was. when things like this happen, i think you find a new perspective on life. red cross put us in a hotel so we were able to stay together. we're strong and if we overcame that or if we can overcome that... we can overcome anything. [ sniffles ] ♪ ♪ ooh baby, can i do for you today? ♪ [ femal

well, apparently the pope has not read the gospel of the little drummer boy. it is written, quote, mary nodded pa rum pum pum pum, the ox and lamb kept time, pa rum pum pum pum. the ox and the lamb are the rhythm section. if the ox and the lamb aren't there, who's keeping time, mary? she's busy nodding. it doesn't make any sense. what else wasn't in the manager, no red nosed reindeer, no mer-- mary kissing santa claus, no frosty the snowman sing catch me if you can. hey, your holiness, you know what else is never mentioned in the bible? the pope. (cheers and applause) let me double-check here, pope, pope, pope, pope, pope, nope. but you know what, you know what, you know what, just because it's not in here, i still believe that there is a pope. and even if you were trying to buzz stomp my yuletide barn yard, i will still leave out milk and cookies for you. merry christmas. we'll be right back. (cheers and applause) >> welcome back, everybody. my guest tonight is abc's senior white house correspondent and the author of the outpost, an untold story of american v

. >> and from the same period, the gospel of luke and part of the gospel of john. >> at the beginning, it was the word and the word was god. >> >> i'm steve kroft. >> i'm lesley stahl. >> i'm morley safer. >> i'm bob simon. >> i'm lara logan. >> i'm scott pelley. those stories tonight on this shortened edition of "60 minutes." enneed a quick holiday present, go to walgreens.com. just upload your photo, create any number of gifts and pick them up the same day. right here. at the corner of happy and healthy. that retiring some day is even an option for sean and me. how'd you get comfortable enough to know you could really do it? well, planning, of course. and we got a lot of good advice. a few years ago, your mom and i put some money into a pacific life fixed annuity. it guarantees us an income for the rest of our lives, whether social security is all there or not. hey, hey! ♪ [ laughs ] [ male announcer ] to learn more about a guaranteed lifetime income from pacific life, visit pacificlife.com. till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way..

it's called social justice gospel. care about things to help bring up the 47% and the rest of america. you have to continue to protect those types of things like affirmative action and equality on the job and equality in marriage rights. >> social justice gospel. >> i think so. >> you have introduced a new phrase into the lexicon. >> let's not forget that over 60 million people state voted for mitt romney in this election. >> that's what you're hanging your hat on? >> i'm not hanging my hat, but republican ideals very much have a mace in the american political disscattered showers. no question about it. we just need to build on those. >> erin mcpike, social justice gospel. have you heard of this? >> i have not. you learn something every day. >> a big thanks to you, erin mcpike. boris epshteyn, good to see you. and angela rye, a new addition here. thanks for classing up the joint. i do appreciate you stopping by as well. and a big thanks, our biggest thanks, of course to you. thank you so much for spending some time wit

country gospel singer candy christmas and grammy winner jason crabb have been featured beyond the dreamuss how they're helping people in need this holiday season. jason and candy, glad to have you guys. >> thank you. >> candy you've been doing this for nine years now, and it started in nashville where you saw a tremendous need. 300,000 plus homeless people and could be understating it. >> 11,000. >> kelly: how many? >> 11,000 on the streets of nashville, yes. >> kelly: and what compels the country singer to go beyond her comfort zone to help people in need where it's not always comfortable? >> well, to me, kelly, it's one thing to write a check, to some unknown ministry somewhere else, but another thing to roll up your sleeves and really get involved with people and help in a tangible way and so, it started with meeting a need that i had, which i had depression so it was a real feel-good thing to help people who would be eating out of a dumpster if i wasn't able to serve them. i was literally able to serve my way out of depression by serving others and a wonderful ride. >> kelly: it's a

with jeff tweedy, mavis staples, sean lennon and the harlem gospel choir.as, everybody! (cheers and applause) ♪ and so this is christmas ♪ and what have you done ♪ another year's over ♪ and a new one's begun ♪ so this is christmas ♪ we hope you have fun ♪ near and the dear ones ♪ old and the young ♪ a merry merry christmas ♪ and a happy new year ♪ let's hope it's a good one ♪ ♪ without any fear ♪ and so this is christmas ♪ for weak and for strong ♪ for rich and for poor ones ♪ ♪ the road is so long ♪ so happy christmas ♪ ♪ if you want it ♪ gathering red ones ♪ ♪ a very merry christmas ♪ and a happy new year ♪ let's hope it's a good one ♪ ♪ without any fear ♪ and so this is christmas ♪ and what have we done ♪ another year's over ♪ and a new one's just begun ♪ ♪ so this is christmas ♪ we hope you have fun ♪ the near and the dear ones ♪ ♪ the old and the young ♪ a very merry christmas ♪ and a happy new year ♪ let's hope it's a good one ♪ ♪

after a lifetime of extraordinary achievements, he's taking on a whole new mission, preaching the gospelving up. the racetracks of nascar are a young man's world. where top speed, quick reflexes and raw power are prized. so what is this man, well past retirement age doing amid the chaos of pit row? the same thing joe gibbs has always done, he's running the show. you are at an age when most people would be content to golf and take it easy. why don't you stop? >> that's a good question. to me, life is so exciting, to me it's always trying to beat somebody in something, competitive. it's kind of been my whole life. we're due one, let's get this thing right here. >> are you as excited got what you do today as you were when you were 20, 25? >> let's go guys, let's get us one here, we're do one. >> i really think i am. >> joe's rise began in the 1980s when he took the struggling washington red skins a team with few stars and even fewer playoff hopes took the team to not one but three championships, winning the respect of the league and also the fans. >> there's no other fans in the world that

before great enemies even to plead for justice for all peoples but i present to you a preacher of the gospel. a faith leader who knows that there is no lasting peace at all unless you pay the price for peace by working the things that make the peace in a community. jesse jackson has been the needle. he has been the thread through the agency of rainbow push coalition pulling together all of these broken fabrics of society in order that we might hope for, look for, and look for eternalally a better society in which we will be no more beset with bigotry and classicism and racism and all of the ism's that tear the very fabric of society. he has paid the price for freedom. he has paid the price for peace. he has paid the price for social betterment. i present to you a better that knows how to pay the price for a beautiful quilt, peace in san francisco with jobs, with quality education and jobs and surl celebration and bring to you jesse jackson who will speak to you and how we pay the price for peace in this city. [applause] >> amos, are you presenting me with the quilt? i want my quilt. i want m

with jeff tweedy, mavis staples, sean lennon and the harlem gospel choir. merry christmas, everybody! (cheers and applause) ♪ and so this is christmas ♪ and what have you done ♪ another year's over ♪ and a n

of luke. >> you pointed out this verse to us from the gospel aaccording to luke.r they don't know what they're doing. that is what you're talking about there. >> exactly. it seems like that's a superhuman sort of thing that jesus did from the cross, but just in, you know, a few pages over in the acts of the apostles, the first christian martyr, steven, is said to pray almost the same thing being executed. he said, don't hold this sin against them. it is possible for normal people to forgive, even in extraordinary ways. >> a strong message there. how important is forgiveness? what does the bible say about it? >> well, it's not only possible but imperative and commanded. in the lord's prayer jesus makes god's forgiveness contingent on whether or not we forgive each other in the lord's prayer. it's a striking text in matthew 6 where jesus says this. >> forgive us for the ways we wronged you as we forgive those that wrong us. if you forgive sins your herchly father will also forgive you. if you don't forgive neither will the father. >> it's dependent forgive us as we

thank you so much for all you do for the gospel of jesus christ in cambodia. thank you again for joining us on the broadcast. >> wendy: coming up, a celebration in the highlands of guatemala. we'll tell you about the great gift that brought joy to so many people. >> george: welcome back back to the show, christian humanitarian relief efforts in eastern congo moving forward, despite military gains by armed rebels. m-23 recently seized territory in goma. john castle is cbn's director for french-speaking africa, and he says the ministry is partnering with hospitals and churches to give congolese urgent medical care. >> the congolese pastors are locating those in the areas most distressed, and seeing that they're informed of what cbn is doing, and they can bring them into the clinic and be served. >> george: to hear more of john castle's comments, log on to the global lane@cbnnews.com. >> wendy: the indigenous people in guatemala are caught in the middle of fighting between drug gangs and militant groups. >> george: recently, though, they had reason to put aside t

bishop carlton pearson preaches a controversial gospel of inclusion to members of his church -- new dimensions chicago. he says his views on "homosexuality" started to shift... when a close friend came out. you gotta love everybody. pearson was one of more than 250 religious leaders...who signed on to this open letter. in support of house bill 51-70: the religious freedom and marriage fairness act. it's just right that everyone have the same tax right, same right to visit people in the hospital - their partners, their husbands their wives. this is the right thing to do.. state rep. greg harris sponsored the bill. he hopes it will come up for a vote in springfield before new lawmakers are sworn in on january ninth. i'm so glad there are hundreds of men, pastors, and rabbis who've said they want to consecrate same sex marriage. on the other hand, i know many churches that will not. we respect both points of view. opposition is intense...as interpretations vary on what's defined in the bible. david smith -- the executive director of the illinois family institute had this to say about the 250 fait

. ♪ joyful >> this is the belfast community gospel choir, they're just dressed up like airport-goers,ellers. >> she had no idea. >> it's like out of a movie. really, truly was. a christmas miracle, i call it. i feel so fortunate. >> that will do it for our show. we'll liv yeave with you more oe flash mob in ireland singing "joy to the world." have a great christmas eve and we'll see you tomorrow. ♪ [ female announcer ] this is a special message from at&t. [ male announcer ] it's no secret that the price of things just keeps going up. [ female announcer ] but we have some good news. it's our bundle price promise. [ male announcer ] a price you can definitely count on, for two whole years. from at&t. [ female announcer ] a great price for a great triple-play bundle. [ male announcer ] call now. bundles with u-verse tv, internet and home phone start at $89 a month. now get the same great price for two years. [ female announcer ] switch today and get a total home dvr included, free for life. [ male announcer ] you get reliable, high speed internet on our advanced digital network. choose f

and on the other hand i think we have to accept as paul wrote to timothy, the gospel will be in seasonon but we have to keep preaching the world, and the gospel is relevant in the times to which we are living, and if awful us were able to keep the commandments and implications, how much suffering would disappear in a moment. so much of our sufferings are rooted in our own rebilliousness. i think at some level we have to begin to show how connected the gospel and commandments and the whole teaching of christ is to the crisis that we are in, so that remains. paul's command is simply, keep preaching the message. >> one out of five adult had no religious affiliation, and many say they do believe in god or a universal spirit and more than one-third said they are spiritual but not religious. what does that mean? >> i think it's -- i think it's a way of trying to -- for young people to articulate or figure out what do they do with the stuff they don't understand. i think that one of the things that i continue to learn with the younger generation is you also brought up that because people are

the gospel turned country crooners brightened up the xli president's day.ne of the oak ridge boys joins me now from nashville, tennessee. thanks for being with me. >> martin, thanks for having me. >> quite a voice and queerly you've got healing powers, at least the song has healing powers for the president, because soon after you sang to him, he was moved from icu and i believe went into a regular hospital room. how did this connection between you and the president all get started? we have a long, very long, long friendship with the bush family. it started way back when he was vice president. and it's continued up to this present day. george and barbara are very dear friends of the oak ridge boys, he officially refers to us as his boys, we were able to work it out between barbara and the bush family and four of to us make a phone call to president bush while he was there in icu and were able to sang couple of songs for him. and able to cheer him up just a little bit. we asked him what he wanted to hear. and quickly he said, "elvira." so we sang a little of

those people who preach the gospel of the union, they took to the public platform in the newspaper columns to proclaim that the crisis of the south was at hand. the south had to act immediately to protect itself from the hatred of evil republicans have this was not the first time sectional crisis that gripped the country. several sharp sectional disputes prior 1860. each of these, each of the major ones have been settled by compromise. here are will point specifically to the four critical ones. first, the constitutional convention in philadelphia. the crisis of 1820 which had to do with the admission of missouri as a slave state in the future of slavery in the louisiana purchase which was much more than the state of louisiana that cover almost all the territory. the missouri compromise. 1832 and 33, the nullification controversy between the state of south carolina and the federal government was also settled by compromise. finally, from late 1840's, the battle over the future of slavery and the territory one from mexico and as the mexican cession following the mexican war was settled by the

. ♪ joyful >> this is the belfast community gospel choir, they're just dressed up like airport-goers,lers. >> she had no idea. >> it's like out of a movie. really, truly was. a christmas miracle, i call it. i feel so fortunate. >> that will do it for our show. we'll liv yeave with you more oe flash mob in ireland singing "joy to the world." have a great christmas eve and we'll see you tomorrow. ♪ [ female announcer ] now get high speed internet at home on our newly expanded advanced digital network, a connection you can count on. introducing at&t u-verse high speed internet with more spd options, reliability and wi-fi hot spots than ever. call at&t now to get

mass scale that we can imagine so to survive the three friends are counting on more than just the gospels bullet proof vest. it'll stop this type of ammunition. shotguns rifles. ammunition and we were ordered to survive yes twice we live in an area that's rich with game to begin with there's also the human element and if we need to defend ourselves we're capable of doing that we're all highly trained in the use of firearms and we all carry guns all the time. the book says that if you're prepared you shall not fear. and if we're prepared i think we have a better chance. pete and i and paul we won't have to worry about. what did we forget to bring we've had years to preplan this and bring what we need to preposition our assets so all we have to do the big challenge is just to get here where over an hour away from our homes and that's driving and that's an awful long walk and so my prayer on a regular basis is that i will know at least twenty four hours in advance that i need to be down here instead of in my home and if we're open and receptive to the promptings of the spirit or to that hair