>> you talk about the gospel. we reflect on the gospel. is there an ancient kind of practice to dig into it. then one of us then preach the gospel. but it is as if the whole community has stopped reflecting and now we are preaching together. we lived together. so we prepare meals together. we together. i would say, one of the most attractive aspect ever parish is not simply that there is sacraments going on. but that the quality of the sacraments, the availability of the sacraments, if you will the joy of the sacraments. the dominican community of san francisco. what a pleasure to be there. >> it's beautiful. pitiful music. your communication that was a part of your modern preaching is wonderful. it seems to me. we got a minute and a half left. take some time. what message do you want to leave to catholic viewers and non-catholic years as well? >> live your faith boldly but with joy. we need to be bold but our faith but also people should see that we are different. that we are happy because we are the gospel. >> jesus is and what his misus

the gospel says we are made in his image and likeness. when you call someone by that name, you are saying no, they are not made in your image, they are this and this is what i will remake them into. they are speaking against god himself in those cases, they must always be rebuked because it is a lie. that's how you make black lives matter. you must realize the social conditioning that turns you away from the gospel message of recognizing jesus christ in your fellow brother and sister. >> thank you, gloria, for your passion and your truth. i had a bunch of really good questions i came up with that i thought we could have a good discussion on. we are being overwhelmed with questions from people. i will go to those and there are two right at the top. ouris from rosalind -- parish will be meeting to discuss what concrete steps we might take in our parish. it's mostly white, suburban about racial justice. can you provide suggestions? this is from christine -- i am a youth minister in a suburban parish. authenticallye in tangibly connecting wit

it is a gospel imperative. number two, what we can do to make luck lives matter is to make black lives matter. in other words, the call of this movement is to say we don't want the power of the state used against us. we are equal citizens as everyone else, and we do not want police brutality on our communities. this is a call of justice that everybody should be it were to behind. secondly, i want people to recognize that if you want to make black lives matter, you have to recognize the social youitioning that make leads to think of that was less. it may be quite subtle. for example, i was reading an article in a catholic paper where the author takes great pains to understand a young man who used a racial epithet against black people. took great pains to take this child is innocent and this and that on the other. but took no time to talk about the egregious nature of the word. it tells catholics reading this that, oh, this is some casual thing. that good people can do. that it did not at all address the real hor

he was a christian minister who preached the gospel. the very first words of this letter are my dear fellow clergyman. that is to whom this was addressed to the leaders of the church where he had a message of get off your rear end and stand for justice. you are a person of faith. justice, defeating racial discrimination defeating bigotry, is not just a matter of truth. it is a matter of morality. here's what doctor king said about it. this is the opening paragraphs of the letter. i am in birmingham because injustice is here. and understand how much this was a call to church leaders. he says just as the prophets and bc left their villages and carried their messes just as apostle paul left his village and carried the gospel of jesus christ to the far corners of the roman world. so i am compelled to carry the gospel of freedom beyond my hometown. at ar, time when our nation is grieving and anguish and anger is an division doctor king, reverent kings message to church leaders to stand up for justice to stand up for truth that message resona

that is not what the gospel teaches. it teaches the exact opposite, and thank goodness. am a sinner, saved by grace. i am not here this morning saying i am perfect or i haven't made mistakes. i say i serve a perfect lord, and it's about him. it's not about a religion, it's about a relationship with the savior hoover gave me and can forgive you and yes he can forgive donald trump. i would just say quickly, i address all of this in my book. i am not unfamiliar with this smear and discharge. you guys are hypocrites because you supported a man who has been and these other personal allegations they throw out. in the 90's, when i was in the christian coalition, i said the people who said that about bill clinton were not acting in a way that was consistent with the gospel. i said if bill clinton is a sinner, he is no worse or better than me or you. i have been consistent on this and i address it all in the book and i explained why the caller is wrong, and why as long as somebody protects the integrity of their office and keeps their campaign promises, and leads as they say they

but also, the gospel of healing. healing services, healing revivals which spread throughout the oil patch and for this very reason, to let average people handle the grief and handle the bloody bodies that were around them on a regular basis. so, thanks. yes? >> my grandfather worked in texas -- [inaudible] [laughter] >> oh yeah, for sure. >> [inaudible] [laughter] >> thank you very much for your talk. can you talk about what was driving the demand? what was the biggest -- was it the use, the heating oil, vehicles? you talk about the supply side, but what about the demand? >> right, well that changes over time. in the beginning it is mostly illuminant, as well oiled eyes. oil would -- whale oil dies. oil would be used at the turn-of-the-century, churchill turning the british naval fleet to oil, rather than c which come -- rather than coal, which leads to a whole changing geopolitical strategies. and then with automobiles in the 1920's and 1950's, as we were talking about the don of the hydrocarbon age and the age of f

he was a christian minister who preached the gospel. the very first words of this felloware, my dear clergymen. that is to who this was addressed, to the leaders in the herch, where we at -- where had a message of get off your nds, and stand justice. if you are a person of faith, justice, defeating racial discrimination, defeating matter ofs not just a truth, it is a matter of morality. here is what dr. king said about it in the opening paragraphs of the letter. "i am in birmingham because injustice is here." and understanding how this was a call to church leaders, "just as the prophets in the eighth century left their village to carry the message, just as the apostle paul left his village of tarsus and. -- and carry the gospel of jesus christ to the far corners of the greco-roman world, so i am compelled to carry the gospel of freedom beyond my hometown." our nation is grieving, is in anger, is in anguish, is in division, reverend king's message to church leaders to stand up for justice, to stand up for truth, that message resonates cl

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the gospel story is painted on the facades of houses in all its variations. the numerous souvenir shops so carvings of saints apostles and crucifixes. over i'm a gal represents a tradition that makes the gospel narrative accessible in many forms. the villages crucifix carvers are as famous as its passion play which has been attracting visitors since the 19th century. film with them were english and critics as it was free the british the swedish and the danish royals and the austrian hausberg been here a little. but. frederick myatt knows he'll be tied up here for the next 10 months 5 times a week from mid may until october the residents of oberammergau will rehearse jesus's suffering and death each performance lasts more than 5 hours it's a mammoth undertaking devised to come from for the $1500.00. 1000 visitors come from all over the world to see the passion play the part and as jesus you are at the center of things that's where you just so you have a responsibility each day that you appear on the stage to perform as well as you possibly can to go to bed ear

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something that's happened to me that's when the booze you know and then it comes from within i mean gospel. army blue country. they all have. they all tell stories. when they're in here but i mean. as far as the streets ready you never know what's going to happen any day in a week things go you know it's not just here is it's everywhere it's like wildfire you know los angeles county. you just look right across the street a couple of blocks where that was a whole nother game that does not get along with decide over here. and we have real history right here is how the gangs are broken then. you have. basically 3 different types of gangs activity going on i you had a crips was most of them don't get along you have the power as was their star now not to get a loan or write a you have to see on the west side of compton and this is track new clark which is the park i'm standing there right now and the t p c c group or conficker. with us it's never right and that's where bam in ca and my weapon dog man in the cinema. is always some type of big me going i want to kind of to keep everything out of

gospel singers alive, waita minute. i am barrister. let me say, one of the most popular and outstanding artist thatis most popular and outstanding artist that is also committed, i have read her interview, she thinks i'm old and don't read self but i do. she has been committed is saying the right things she wanted to be here today, also busy jerking right things she wanted to be here today, also busyjerking with kevin ididn't today, also busyjerking with kevin i didn't look at her. let us welcome our sister below, sister tiffany had a ashes in the house. —— tiffany haddish is in the house. i'm going to announce. don't start introducing people. i got them off. —— i have them all. let us hear a selection from brother hezekiah walker. she god bless everybody. let's have some church were a little while. are you guys ready? i came out of the way from brooklyn new york to do this for george and his family. every praise. let's do it. stand to our feet. put your hands together! music # every praise. # every praise. #isto # every

music cheerful gospel music prayers of course we're going to hear several speeches later as well and that all reflecting the mood here that we've seen on monday also when thousands of you came here to bid farewell to the body of george floyd that is still laid out in the church here and many people believe and hope especially that because of the protest that his death has caused that his death in fact was not in vain and it would bring an end to racism and major improvements for racial injustice in the u.s. and around the world. of course he's become i come from people around the world because of his death of the hands of police in minneapolis what do we know of his life. many many of the visitors yesterday told me that they see him as a fellow used to when you know someone of their own like your neighbor next door humble person is what someone told me he grew up in a poor neighborhood here in houston spent many years of his life your had family children before you then. moved to minnesota he did some college had some ups and downs in his life force eventually became a truck driver a

and a number of gospel songs as well. and of course, again, al sharpton, reverend al sharpton, delivering the eulogy here just as he did at minneapolis last week. yolanda adams, a gospel legend, will also be rendering a selection later in the service. after all is said and done here in houston, george floyd's body will be taken roughly 15 miles from where we sit. he will be laid to rest next to his mother sissy. floyd, a father of two. we've been quite familiar with his 6-year-old daughter, gianna, over the past few weeks. while floyd has become a symbol to so many of so many different things over the past few weeks, he was a brother. he was a father. and what you're seeing right now is a family that has become overcome with grief. brok "broken but healed," by the way, is the song being sung right now, another gospel classic. mr. capehart, i feel like you and i have -- i've lost jonathan capehart. we'll try to get jonathan back. ♪ >> nicole hannah jones also with me. let me come back to you here for a moment, nicole, as w

they are taking the gospel. they are sharing the gospel. that is what it is. and if they can -- missionary work then tended to be a little more gospel centered, bible centered. more so than humanitarian centered in. the question. anything else? now you know somebody in rhodesia. what happens after they've been gone one year or 18 months? if you are in a church, you know this. they come back. they've got a bunch of stories to tell and then you have dinner on wednesday night and you listen to them. and it goes on and on. they've got a power point presentation. or in 1890s version of a power presentation. here's a sketch i made of the village. then, you could be a missionary as well. they still need help. this is going on all over the country. suddenly, you have, i don't even know the number, hundreds of thousands? millions of people who are thinking about what americans can do in south central africa. it is hard to get across the magnitude of this today. because the thing is, if i asked you, how many of you have been to africa? i would not be surprised if have y

that gospel music gives you hope it gives you peace and it gives you joy you know the young people they have a different beat you know. but they have a different be and so that then they come out with a new song still the same for. everything . from grace to read. it had to happen. had to happen there was it was inevitable we call it thanks right now but it was actually story corps reality read perfect example so easy lyrics he said woke up quick about knowing just had to be kept and so got a good draw before my day begins before my mama start bitching about my offering is basic you understand everything i'm saying right dear my reality is simple compton born and raised. fatherless child and also my father died when i was a baby my momma was a crack in a 4 minute we all have our stories i had to earn my respect in the streets in order to just survive and kind of it was it was more of a necessity to say which you had to say like lose you know say i like the batter or you know sam i don't mean you know saying these are words that people understand where we come from so when you put that i

commentator on fact one - - on fox news that the church is responsibility is one thing to preach the gospel that the government's job is to to compartmentalize and donald trump is protecting us and protecting the borders and is a strong man to fight the muslim threat and it doesn't quite matter it wasn't our pastor in chief. >> so he merges them conveniently in the moment that he needs to. asking about the sermon on the mount rather have a candidate and then says heck no which is shocking and then he molds that into what the united states does and as government and is excusing trumps behavior despite the matter how far away it is. that the government isn't a person and from what i have seen so far if you have a government that functions a morally and that something that represents that a morality. and then to have that amoral president. >> and those and the tweets and so forth. >> like ben sass and others. and they line up in terms of policy. >> i don't think there is necessarily anything wrong with the idea or the concept of a transactional relationship. that we have expectations of the pe

this brother is one of the greatest gospel singers alive. is tiffany here?tstanding artists that is also committed, i have read her interviews. she is think i am old and don't read stuff, but i do, and she has been committed and sync the right things, and she wanted to be here today. joking, let ussy welcome our sister, sister sh is in the house. [applause] wait a minute, don't you all start introducing folks. of got them all. let us hear a selection from brother. for a's have some church little while. are you already to have some church? i came from new york to do this for george and the family. ♪ let's do it, let's stand on our feet, everybody. your hands together. come on, come on, come on. ♪ [full band performing] ♪ >> every praise to our god ♪ sing hallelujah sing hallelujah to our god glory hallelujah to our god every praise every praise to our god ♪ >> let's take it up, come on. praise to our god. praise, every praise, to our god >> sing hallelujah goding hallelujah to our >> glory hallelujah glory hallelujah to our god every praise, to our god come o

gospel great ezekhiah walker will be here as a tribute to george floyd, we are told. >> yeah, craig, as we look inside the services. people are taking their streets, having an announcement about social distancing. asking people to maintain social distancing in this hostage of covid. also with us today to talk about things, washington post associate editor and nbc news contributor you jean robinson -- eugene robinson, georgetown university law professor and former prosecutor paul butler with us as well. i want to pick up with our panel, with what craig was talking about an hour ago, a little more than an hour ago, i was at the site of where george floyd died, where that make-shift memorial is under way. and i looked around that crowd. it was old. it was young. it was white. it was black. eugene robinson, let me start with you at this point. we have tended to look at things sometimes through the idea eighth black movement. it's a black concern. we've seen anything but that in the protests and the faces that have stood up for justice in this case. >> that's absolutely right, lester. tha

now he did ultimately die i thought it was interesting that while he was willing to die for the gospel he was not willing to someone on - - surrender his rights. so first of all we are conned - - called upon to defend our rights trump has offered to defend our rights and by the way the caesar at that time the occupant of that office was tiberius who was a notorious sexual deviant, pedophile murdered his opponent and had the bodies float down the river to intimidate his critics. he was not a good man. but that is who paul appealed to. that is the first thing we are called to do. second is to advance the common moral good. and i quote ronald reagan with his famous address at the national association of evangelicals 1983 he said, you don't get to check out the citizenship and say both sides applied. you have to choose a side he was talking about communism versus capitalism but it applies today and also the third thing is to resist evil i believe abortion on demand is a moral evil and trump is offering to resist that. that is the argument and the question case. none of us are perfect not h

as we have this celebration, as we have this home going service, as we listen to this nourishing gospel music, as we pray to whomever we pray to, let us also pray that we don't have to have another young lady that walks around with the hurt in her heart. let's make sure that we have this last funeral. let's make sure that we bury this last soul. let's make sure that we make it our aim to make sure this never happens again in the united states of america. i just look at my kids every single day and i know that i have to have conversations with them that, brooke, you don't have to have with children that you'll have, and i just want one day for my kids to be free, free to attain the, all of the promises and the trappings of american dream and i don't want my life to be cut short in going out trying to do that. >> there is washington along with the reverend al sharpton who's going to give the eulogy and as we continue on here, laura, let's talk about, let's pick up where bakari left off talking about young people and last night, i interviewed laura king, rodney king's daughter, and she tal

went he did ultimately die but i thought it was interesting that while he was willing to i for the gospel he wasn't willing to surrender his right as a roman. .. .. who was a notorious sexual deviant, pedophile, he murdered his opponent and had their bodies float down the tiber river to intimidate his critics. he was not a good man. but that's who paul appealed to. that's the first thing we are called to do. the second thing we are called to do is to advance the common and moral good. and i quote ronald reagan in his famous address to the national association of evangelicals in 1983, york at the checkout of citizenship and say both sides are flawed. you got to choose a side. he was talking about communism versus capitalism but it applies today in our own context.the third thing we are called to do is to resist evil. i believe abortion on demand is a moral evil and trump is offering to resist that. that in a sense is the argument. that's the christian case, not that he's perfect because none of us are perfect not but he is without sin because all of us in. on these aspects of a true unders

celebrated in the tradition of the african-american church and that's with lots of music and lots of gospel and people singing and really remembering george floyd as the person he was we heard political messages to as we've just heard in the sound bites there was a very strong emotional video message by joe biden the likely presidential candidate of the democratic party also congress man al green spoke and he said that now is essentially the time to change something when it comes to racism and to racial inequality in the united states. it's and this opportunity has to be used and for this reason also the democratic party on monday unveiled a comprehensive reform package that will tackle police violence now over you know the name george florey did speak come a rally call for people across the world in the u.s. here in europe people who want to fight police brutality and want to fight racism but there was also a human being attached to that name what do we know about the life of george will. who won the former classmate called him a gentle giant his family members simply referred to him as th

he did it maltly die but it thought it was interesting while he was willing to die for the gospel he wasn't willing to surrender his lights as a roman -- his rights as a roman. so we're called upon to defend our right, trump has offered to defend our rights. and by the way, the caesar at that time, the occupant of that office, was tiberius who was notorious sexual deviant, pedophile, murder his opponents and had their bodies float down the river to intimidate his critics. he was nat good man. but that is who paul appealed to. and so that's the first their thing we're called to do. the second this is we're called to advance the common and the moral good and aquote ronald reagan in his famous address to the national association of evangelicals in 1983 and he said look you don't get to check out of citizenship and say, both sides are flawed. you have to choose a side. and he was talking about communism verse capital limp but applies notice our own context. the third thing we're called to do is resist evil and i believe that abortion on demand is a moral evil, and trump is offering to re

we asked gospel great hezakiah walker to sing a song for the family. after which derek johnson of the naacp asked me, attorney crump, we're going to stand for eight minutes and 46 seconds. that was the time that george was on the ground. we want you all over the world to stand with us for eight minutes and 46 seconds be. make that commitment for justice in the name of george. i want to thank the members of the congressional black caucus for being with want you stand. [applause] i want to thank the son and heir, dr. martin luther king iii for being with us. [applause] want to thank the mayor and the governor and their brides for being with the family. senator klobuchar from the state of minnesota. i want to thank our -- my mentor and one who fought this fight for more than half a century, reverend jesse jackson is with us. and his spokesman for rainbow push, jonathan luther jackson. i want to thank from the entertainment world, kevin hart. he told me don't mention he's here. don't clap. stand up, kevin. we joke each other. brother, beloved. stand up bro

celebrated and in the tradition of the african-american church that was done with lots of cheerful gospel music so there was a hopeful and positive aspect to this too as a lot of people also put their hopes in the death of george floyd that this would bring change to racial inequality in the united states and around the world and we heard strong speeches of a video message by joe biden the likely democratic candidate for the presidency a very empathic message and then also congress people like al green and he said that now the next steps have to be taken a combating racism and racial inequality and brant i had the opportunity to speak to him earlier let's listen and. we need a reconciliation and if a country in germany we've had reconciliation to a great extent you don't feed far and recognize in him that you don't feel that you and this country you still have compared a rift that you thought well if we have a reconciliation department in the cabinet of the united states of america with effect motera reconciliation who reports directly to the president whose job it is to eliminate racism

the life of george ford and that was done in the tradition of the american church so with lots of gospel music lots of music played in general of course and in addition to that there was a political dimension and that was with the congress people who came from washington delivering speeches civil rights activists and one of the speakers was the democrat al green and i had the opportunity terry to speak to him earlier let's listen in what he had to say we need a reconciliation and if country in germany we've had reconciliation to a great extent you don't feed. recognizing you don't the statute in this country compared a rift that you thought well if we have a reconciliation department in the cabinet of the united states of america with effect motera reconciliation who reports directly to the president whose job it is to eliminate racism and invidious discrimination who reports to the congress the annual basis and reports of power well he's doing his job what progress are we making this is what we're going to need for the long run for that we can take care of the problem not only today but

any time i come in the presence of a white police officer, my life might be in danger.ha that's the gospel. he sayou very much.t. >> what he talked about are real. there are statistics that he described what he just did. i as a black man who work ed at the white house and done all the of th that well-intentionedhey white people say they should do to say they are worthy of thoseh that they take for granted. i have a visceral response when i'm in the presence of not only a police officer, but other individuals who act as if they are agents of the state.w refleo i think about how reflexive these moments are. there's a body of evidence that continues to grow.regard. i think as the brother was talking about the experience of knowing a black mann choked outside of a waffle house restaurant in north carolina years ago, anthony talks about having bared witness the week prior to a a young man who was tased and shot by a police officer. and so we have to be clear about the connections that exist in these moments.th and the last thing i will say about this is the policewilling in minnesota made the p

in an interview in 2015, bonnie joking despite being a gospel choir, the group never did a gospel albumick and nail polish. and be nasty. >> bonnie passed away monday from cardiac arrest. she was 69 years old. >> anita pointer who you just saw in that video alongside bonnie, confirming bonnie's death in a statement saying the pointer sisters would never have happened had it not been for bonnie. bonnie's mom said she always told me, mother, i want something for myself, i want to be somebody in this world. and she certainly was, wasn't she? >> she definitely was. quite a voice there, quite a legacy. will, thank you so much. let's keep that music going because when we come back, we're going to tell you about oprah's big night. >> and a new "bachelor" for your summer. "the skinny" is next. >> "the skinny" is next. ♪ >>> army, listen, up, it's time for "the skinny." we are starting with a headline from the world of k-pop. >> bts has just made a sizeable donation to the black lives matter movement to the tune of $1 million in a tweet to 26 million fans, bts said they oppose violence and racia

rallies in different parts of manhattan and brooklyn they've been largely peaceful people singing gospel songs maybe engaging in prayer speeches talking about systemic police brutality and violence and a history of racism in this country but that was during the daytime and now we've come to know i you know on how are you a curfew that was brought forward from 11 pm yesterday to 8 pm that day a large number of the people who want to protest peacefully they've gone home already and 60 minutes off the cuff your comments affect some protesters all still out in the streets with their photos on social media of a large group of protesters in brooklyn trying to get into manhattan but they're encountering everything has been peaceful so far the night is still young and that's why a few hours to get this game to play out and that curfew you mentioned of course has been extended throughout the week until sunday what does america blasio hope to achieve with that. so today diplomacy has come under quite intense criticism from various areas in particular from andrew cuomo who's the governor of the sta

some would say why not the gospel, why not paul being the primary choice? some say it's so complex, difficult, challenging. >> and it is in some places. it's important that we understand we who follow jesus christ. he didn't read paul. he didn't read matthew, mark, luke. he was try to reflect on the properties and the law. he was trying to say i think this is how you've been taught. i want to reveal to you another way of looking at this in context of where you are and where you're living now. this is not to be a word of from god that's inclusion their or exclusive. when we understand that and then the attributes of christ, the christology of christ, we learn how we should live. what was jesus talking about in the elijah moment when he was running away from the prophets. what was that about? do we have the same situation here? i don't think you can understand new testament scriptures unless you understand what they're reflecting off of, how they're evolving off of that. they're echoing off what they know and have been taught. launching out to a new way of ap

do you want to pray and apply the words of the gospel or do you want to use that gospel as a kugel. see the contrast, it was very clear. i think for those inside the white house are who are high-fiving and opening the champagne bottles and loving the visuals they concocted, the reality is this is not playing well across the country and it's not playing well because those senators who walked single file against a bank of cameras had nothing to say. they could not justify it. they could not approve of it. be the reality is it, they know how it is playing back at home. they know what the voters can did what do they say to a black voter in ohio and michigan and florida, california, new york, south carolina, north carolina. what happen do you sty them? you cannot look a camera in the eye and say to the american people that what the president said yesterday was despicable. to use religion as a prop and to do it again today? this is a place where amidst all the protesting that is going on, the american people are taking into their soul what all of this means. and we'll see how they resolve

i will keep preaching the gospel and that jesus loves them because that's what it's about.eah. >> laura: bevelyn, thanks so much for bevelyn beatty here on "the ingraham angle." up next, a research fellow looks at a a data and says that we are ready for a major reopening could hear to tell us why. plus fauci admits he lied to the american public months ago and the media basically casually ignoring it. stay ahead. ♪ >> laura: three months now after the first coronavirus lockdown orders new evidence seriously undermining the entire base. my next guest wrote a phenomenal piece in "the wall street journal" saying that rather than validating zirconium lockdown order is, the latest economic research on covid-19 suggest that social distancing efforts in general and shelter in place measures in particular have done more harm than good. findings like these have led him to advocate for a major, and i mean major reopening of the country for david henderson, richards fellow with stanford's hoover institution joins me now. we are told that the lockdown saved millions of lives.av but wha