goswami thought she was doing her due diligence. she had sent her a picture of his license and even his passport. it's not clear whose photo this may or may not be, or who goswami was speaking with on the phone. but as for his address in los altos, it is a real home and shivram krishnan is the real owner. >> when he first called me, i had no idea what you're talking about because i had no idea this had happened at all. the fact that they've gone to this level of detail meant that they really wanted to show some credibility. >> information. goswami only found out later. >> i was asking him, how come you are not on social media or anywhere else on google? he said he is a private person, so i believed that, you know, i was hypnotized. whatever he was telling me, i was kept on doing it. >> this person is a regular, trusting human being who was targeted by a professional. >> aaron west was a prosecutor with the santa clara county da's office for more than two decades. she now runs a nonprofit educating people about scams called operation

goswami thought she was doing her due diligence. she had sent her a picture of his license and even his passport. it's not clear whose photo this may or may not be, or who goswami was speaking with on the phone. but as for his address in los altos, it is a real home and shivram krishnan is the real owner. >> when he first called me, i had no idea what you're talking about because i had no idea this had happened at all. the fact that they've gone to this level of detail meant that they really wanted to show some credibility. >> information. goswami only found out later. >> i was asking him, how come you are not on social media or anywhere else on google? he said he is a private person. so i believe that, you know, i was hypnotized. whatever he was telling me, i was kept on doing it. >> this person is a regular, trusting human being who was targeted by a professional. >> aaron west was a prosecutor with the santa clara county da's office for more than two decades. she now runs a nonprofit educating people about scams called operation

goswami thought she was doing her due diligence.he had sent her a picture of his license and even his passport. it's not clear whose photo this may or may not be, or who goswami was speaking with on the phone. but as for his address in los altos, it is a real home and shivram krishnan is the real owner. >> when he first called me, i had no idea what you're talking about because i had no idea this had happened at all. the fact that they've gone to this level of detail meant that they really wanted to show some credibility. >> information. goswami only found out later. >> i was asking him, how come you are not on social media or anywhere else on google? he said he is a private person. so i believe that, you know, i was hypnotized. whatever he was telling me, i was kept on doing it. >> this person is a regular, trusting human being who was targeted by a professional. >> aaron west was a prosecutor with the santa clara county da's office for more than two decades. she now runs a nonprofit educating people about scams called operation sh

goswami thought she was doing her due diligence. she had sent her a picture of his license and even his passport. it's not clear whose photo this may or may not be, or who goswami was speaking with on the phone. but as for his address in los altos, it is a real homd shivram krishnan is the real owner. >> when he first called me, i had no idea what you're talking about because i had no idea this had happened at all. the fact that they've gone to this level of detail meant that they really wanted to show some credibility information. >> goswami only found out later. >> i was asking him, how come you are not on social media or anywhere else on google? he said he is a private person. so i believe that, you know, i was hypnotized. whatever he was telling me, i was kept on doing it. >> this person is a regular, trusting human being who was targeted by a professional. >> aaron west was a prosecutor with the santa clara county da's office for more than two decades. she now runs a nonprofit educating people about scams called operation shamr

reporter for semaphore, rohan goswami. rohan, let's just start there. what kind of impact will these retaliatory tariffs levied by both the u.s. and china have, and where and when will consumers start to see and feel them? >> it depends. >> on. >> the sector. >> ali, and i think. >> there are. >> some where consumers will see it right away. if you look. >> at cars, for example, a lot of parts. inside of cars. come from. >> canada and mexico. so those tariffs haven't been evaded are good for u.s. consumers. >> but the tariffs. >> that china put in place. >> in response. >> to donald trump are more mitigated than. some might have expected. >> given the amount of time. >> that china has had to come up with this. >> so i. >> don't think the consumer is going. >> to see an. >> immediate effect. that being said, there's a. >> lot of room to run. >> here for china. >> the other concern i think that lawmakers have is that just because the tariffs with mexico and canada are off the table for the next month, doesn't mean that they won't come back into play. how s

yes, she and goswami nod. that's what they do. they work as human resources. thank you so much. i, i think that was such a good excerpt to kind of start around because for those who haven't read it yet, so the, the genesis of this book is telling stories of all these different people that are perhaps undercooked or that people don't really know about but are kind of the underground network, i guess you would say a lot of the ai and one of the technology that we read about and we use in our daily lives and what's interesting to me and i'd love to hear you about how you kind of got it went in this direction with this book because as a reporter with the f.t., you are constantly writing about, you know, sam altman and the people in silicon valley, the powerful, rich people who are developing technology or financing it. and that's pretty much kind of the obsession of the press, right. and there are a lot of books written about know these founders and their personalities and what drives. and you didn't do that with this book. you focus instead these it was eight or nine i think people