that's what gotme started. 1965 when i was areporter for the oakland post, i went to selma and had an opportunity to have 14 hours of an exclusive interview with doctor king. and, that's when i wedded to be a journal lichl and ism and civil rights. >> since you mention "selma", what did you think of the movie of that? >> it captured the essence and accurate and those scenes showing doctor king, that was real. that's the way itactually went down. the viewergot a chance. i felt myself in there in the old film footage chen they showed the eye on the prize. the movie was definitely accurate >> when i met you in the late 1960s, you were in the black caucus and you were so involved in the community. i was a xhuptcommunity organizer myself, i was drawn to all the work you were doing. what inspired youto continue to do that? >> we took a unique approach. in 1966, we used to monitor the police, this was long before the black panther party was organized. i had done a lot ofwork with black churches and with civil rights organizations. we form what's called a black caucus, this was prior to the c