gotti, also known as junior. >> was he convicted? >> he pled guilty, yes. >> so with the former head of the gambino family, cosa nostra, whatever label you want to put on it, did you ever fear for your own life? >> i did not fear for my own life. you have to be prudent about your security risks as a prosecutor. i think everybody realizes this. there are a lot of rules in the organized crime spaces and arenas and one is not to draw attention to yourself by harming a prosecutor or a judge. that is not true with other criminal groups. some of the violent drug gangs, for example, i think are a bigger security threat. when i became u.s. attorney in manhatten, by really happenstance, the trade center -- just before i became u.s. attorney, so we did a lot of major international terrorism cases and there is security from those cases. >> john gotti did what? >> he was convicted of racketeering. he basically extorted money from people for protection payments. he was the boss of the family. multiple murders were carried out with his, him being

you remember the first time you knew the name john gotti?nt back into the government, john gotti had been tried and not successfully prosecuted. eastern went to the district as mr. maloney's chief assistant. when i was there, i was very actively involved in really -- supervising the gotti prosecution which ultimately led to his conviction. >> how many times was he tried? >> three times. he was acquitted twice. the third time you was convicted. >> were you in the courtroom? >> i was in the courtroom a lot of the time, but i was not part of the trial team. i was involved in a lot of the strategy calls. mr. gotti was in the trial himself along with mr. gleason. ironically when i became the u.s. attorney of the southern later,t a couple years we prosecuted john gotti's son, also known as junior. convicted? >> he pled guilty, yes. gambinoth the former family, cosa nostra, whatever label you want to put on it, did you ever fear for your own life? >> i did not fear for my own life. you have to be prudent about be security risks as a prosecutor. i t

. >> narrator: he had already appointed gotti tedeschi, a highly respected banker and a professor of business ethics, to reform the bank. >> (translated): gotti tedeschi set about building relationships with the international organizations and indicated that all regulations and standards must be applied to bring the ior into line with all the other banks operating in europe. he wanted to really clean up the bank, but in the vatican, there were people who didn't want that. >> narrator: cardinal bertone, pope benedict's second in command, had been closely involved with the bank. he now insisted that the measures could not be applied retrospectively. >> cardinal bertone was adamant. "no, we will only allow them to look at what we are doing from this day forward. but the stuff from the past, you have no right to look at that." >> (translated): this was a drastic limitation on the information available to us. >> narrator: cardinal bertone had outmaneuvered tedeschi, who was then dismissed from his post. a devout catholic, he said, "i was very disappointed, hurt and upset. i had been aband

. >> cufertioa accusation of money laundering is what got auteri gotti, this is another big black eyefor the church and how bad could this get if this actually does go to court and all sorts of documents come out? >> it's anybody's guess. the problem all the way through this story, i'm an historian, whether you're trying to write the history of the church's finances or trying to do contemporary investigation, is the lack of transparency. the abc of transparency is something that pope francis is trying to introduce now. in the teeth of great resistance, it has to be said, there are sections of curiae that are used to a very very cozy relationship with political power. we hear much politicians getting cheap apartments from the vatican's property portfolio and this kind of thing. and these are the conservative elements that really quite like the obscurity that pope francis is trying to combat. >> yes, the size of that property portfolio is incredible as you point out, just enormous amounts of property in rome and around the world. chuck, talking about pope francis, he dismissed all but o

there's no al capone or john gotti at the top of the organized crime groups like classic or traditionalganized crime. >> simon: they have specialists in everything, from alarms to safecracking to stealing cars, and those experts are not hard to find. do they have connections in every country? >> jan glassey: in europe, in quite every country, you have the balkan community, so they have the possibility to have a connection. in switzerland, we know that, and it's the same in france, in germany, in sweden, in denmark. >> simon: swiss detective jan glassey says geneva is one of their favorite cities because it's so rich. it's where billionaires come to shop and play. so they went into this store? >> glassey: they went inside this store. >> simon: and if they get... if they only get 15 watches, they've made like a million bucks... >> glassey: yeah. >> simon: ...in 50 seconds. >> glassey: yeah, exactly. >> simon: this team, wearing wigs and sunglasses, robbed a luxury store on the rue de rhone, the street in geneva. they grabbed $4 million worth of diamonds and made their getaway in motorcycl

at one of my daughters because she went to school and told all her friends, my father's like john gotti came and told me that i was like, what did you say? do you not know what you just said? she didn't understand. i got mad and punished her and everything for it. but later on, i reflected back and was like, man, why did i even do that? you're trying to show them a different life and not thinking that they're smart enough to understand. because we think as adults we're smarter. but we're really not. remember? i was always talking about devil this, devil that, that was the devil. the devil was all over me. i can laugh at it now. but it was a sad situation because i should have been showing you all the right way. they're older now. 19 and 20. it's getting into a situation where they're experiencing the adult life, you know, and i'm not there for them physically. i miss them, i miss them bad. i love you. bye. >> all right. i love you. >> love you, poppy. >> you all be good. >> bye. love you. >> love you too. >> anya and sianna find it painful to visit their father in jail. but they might h