gottlieb. school closures are still a live issue.e've seen upticks in rsv and flu and other viruses and some schools have closed. in indiana we just saw one, virginia. should communities just take this out of the tool kit and keep schools open no matter what? >> look, we have a major epidemic of rsv, maybe peaking right now. we're going to enter a major epidemic of flu and we haven't been taking the actions we would normally take to mitigate these pandemics. i think a lot of public health officials and school districts are gun shy right now given the backlash to what we did during the pandemic. closing a school for one incubation cycle for two or three days when you had a major outbreak of flu or rsv was not that uncommon. if you had 40% or 50% of kids out of school. now when a school in indiana does it, it's national news. we know hand hygiene is preventive in stopping flu. wearing a mask if you have rsv or flu protects against forward transmission. no one is stalk being that. there's reluctance, partly because of failures of public

david: all right, so, you made some money at cleary gottlieb and then you went to ubs.e in the financial services world, as it's now called, but then you left to go work in a nonprofit in harlem. why did you do that? darren: because for me, it was never about piling up money. for me, it was ultimately about service. david: all right, so, you did that for a number of years and then you joined the rockefeller foundation. then you rose up to be in charge of various international programs. then you were recruited to go to the ford foundation. darren: i went to ford as a vice president. ford was a much larger foundation. it's about 3 times the size of rockefeller. so, it was a lateral move but i had a bigger remit. david: ok, so, ford was looking for a new president and you were one of the candidates, and as i understand it, you went into the interview and said, "i'm gonna change this completely if i get this job. "i'm gonna focus on social inequality and make everything dealing with social inequality our focus." is that right? darren: yes, but what i said was e foundation w

she is now managing partner of gottlieb and wing wong llp a firm dedicated to advocating for education and civil rights her writing has appeared in major publications such as the new york times and the washington post. she lives in brooklyn with her husband and their two rescued dogs salty and peppers. please give a warm savannah. welcome to chin julie wong. in the episode of seinfeld titled library cop a library investigation's officer named lieutenant bookman visits jerry's apartment the visit occurs because according to library records jerry had had henry miller's tropic of cancer checked out since 1971. but according to jerry he returned it that same year. when he learns of the dilemma kramer is terrified. do you know how much that comes to? that's a nickel a day for 20 years. it's going to be $50,000. but when jerry corrects him, it doesn't work like that. kramer gives voice to a fear that would have sent chills through my body as a child. well if it's a dime a day, it's a hundred thousand dollars. when lieutenant bookman arrives on the scene he delivers perhaps the best monologue

scott gottlieb is on the board of pfizer, yet, he is a spokesman for what we should do governmentallyi think he joined after he left government service though. i'm just pointing that out. i hear what you are saying. guest: there were a lot of ties, and fauci himself had so many ties to the manufacturers and things like that. i think there was a real crossover, and things were not being done. these mandates for vaccines should never have happened. it should have been left up to the people with what they were to do. when the government starts mandating, children should get vaccinated, that is horrible. there is no science to back that up. if you listen to the independent scientists, who were pretty much banned from social media and speaking out by the government, they all agreed that children are not at risk and should not be getting vaccines, and children, we don't know what the long-term risks are to children. there may be some justification for compromised adults with comorbidities, but outside of that, the risk of people dying from covid itself or not as great as the government trie

scott gottlieb is on the board of pfizer, yet, he is a spokesman for what we should do governmentallyhost: i think he joined after he left government service though. i'm just pointing that out. i hear what you are saying. guest: there were a lot of ties, and fauci himself had so many ties to the manufacturers and things like that. i think there was a real crossover, and things were not being done. these mandates for vaccines should never have happened. it should have been left up to the people with what they were to do. when the government starts mandating, children should get vaccinated, that is horrible. there is no science to back that up. if you listen to the independent scientists, who were pretty much banned from social media and speaking out by the government, they all agreed that children are not at risk and should not be getting vaccines, and children, we don't know what the long-term risks are to children. there may be some justification for compromised adults with comorbidities, but outside of that, the risk of people dying from covid itself or not as great as the governmen