c-span: what is goucher like, and what kind of a school is it? >> guest: it used to be a women's college, and now it's co-ed and boisterously co-ed. it's small, undergraduate and very much committed to the idea of liberal arts--that you have a broad-based, general education and then off you go to do more specialized training. c-span: is there new information in this book? >> guest: some. some. what's new about it is the use of the family papers, some of the letters of adlai stevenson ii to each other. and then i think every time we redo and relook at a public figure, you get a new interpretation. whether there's new facts or new information is probably less important than the whole interpretation of an era and of a family. c-span: is this the liberal that everybody uses as the standard bearer? >> guest: yeah. yeah. yes and no. if you're looking at civil rights, this is not the liberal men like averell harriman were a lot more liberal on issues of civil rights which stevenson was sort of squashy on. but if you're looking at something that was real