celine gounder. dr. gounder, as you just saw, there are crowds gathering all over the country this weekend. many people are not wearing masks. what's going through your mind as you see some of these images? >> well, ana, you know, i don't think public health officials are anti-fun. we are pro-safety. and i think there are ways to balance the two. i think, you know, seeing some of the folks, for example, in the los angeles area on the beach and finding a way to remain at least 6 feet apart is great. you know, it shows that we can balance safety and fun. i think there are ways to wear masks which are cheap, and frankly, not that invasive, and still be able to enjoy our lives. >> let's listen to what dr. deborah birx, the white house coronavirus response coordinator said this morning about masks. >> we've made it clear that there is asymptomatic spread. and that means that people are spreading the virus unknowingly. and this is unusual in the case of respiratory diseases in many cases. so you don't know who

gounder, hayward is thinking about fall already. is it possible to contract the flu and the coronavirus at the same time this winter? >> absolutely. we know you can get multiple viral infections at the same time. we often see this in the winter. we didn't see that so much this particular flu season, because the coronavirus was really coming on the scene as our flu season was waning. we fully anticipate there could be some people getting both, sometimes at the same time next fall and winter. >> all right. well, great questions. great answers. thank you to all of you. our panel, i'm feeling safer, smarter, and less worried already. thank you so much. you all are fantastic. all right. thank you so much for joining me this saturday. i'm fredricka whitfield. newsroom continues with ana cabrera right after this. nowadays you do more from home than ever before. the xfinity my account app puts you in control with digital tools to give you the help you need when you need it. get fast and easy answers with personalized help 24 hours a day, 7

celine gounder. president trump said it is not acceptable that dr. fauci raised concerns about sending cuds back to school in the fall. are you worried about the kids spreading coronavirus at school? >> any reasonable public health person would be concerned about children as potential spreaders of infection. and with the new evidence about this multisystem toxic syndrome also concern of risk to the children themselves. >> this kawasaki-like disease you're referring to right now. dr. fineberg, another question, a new study out of the fash nal institutes of health is estimates that coronavirus could remain in the air for eight minutes after talking loudly for one minute. does this mean we should be wearing masks out of the home even if no one is around? >> in general, this is a study that demonstrates that talking and particularly certain consonants that spread this virus can in fact produce droplets that can stay in the air for some minutes. this is especially important in closed spaces, in rooms. it's why health workers especially need to have that p

also celine gounder. so dr. gounder, what do you make of the trump administration's doubling down on putting responsibility of testing on the states? do you think this will turn into the hunger games scenario, with states competing for resources and supplies, yet again? >> anderson, i think, sadly, the federal strategy is no strategy and an abdication of responsibility to the states. we've already seen a hunger games, lord of the flies kind of scenario, previously, involving ventilators and other personal protective equipment. and i think we're going to see this continue. you know, i think there just needs to be more leadership and more role modeling from the federal level, which we're just not getting right now. >> gloria, given all we saw and heard from the president this weekend, i'm wondering what message et cetera he is sending to americans about the virus and where we stand again against it because there is this strange double speak. i mean, he talked about others playing both sides, whatever that meant. b

gounder, appreciate it. thanks very much. just ahead we're going to continue to remember those who have fallen to the coronavirus. a doctor who could have saved himself, could have stayed home. instead he chose to save others. >>> we like to continue highlighting people who died during this coronavirus pandemic and remember their lives and honor them. people who've left immense impacts on the communities they've served. dr. james mahoney is just one man who did exactly that. he has left a huge impact on his community. he's known as charlie to his friends and family. he was an icu doctor here in new york, worked at a hospital that mostly served underserved communities. when the coronavirus came to this city, he could have stopped. he was 62 years old. he already had a long career serving as a doctor. he wouldn't give up, though. he even worked nights at a hospital across the street from his own. one month ago he died. and we're now joined by two members of dr. mahoney's family. his daughter stephanie mahoney and his son ryan.

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celine gounder is here. she's an infectious disease specialist and epidemiologist helping us make sense of the coronavirus developments joins us now. new study finds blood thin rs can help save those with severe coronavirus infections. your hospital has been using them. what makes these drugs so effective? >> well, one of the things that we have learned, don, is that coronavirus is very much a disease of immune disregulation. so, in other words, your immune system kind of goes haywire and starts to turn on the body itself. and when you have such high levels of inflammation, one of the risks associated with that is blood clots. and these are not just large blood clots but also tiny blood clots in the tiny capillaries, in the lungs, in the kidneys. and that's what leads to in some patients lung failure as well as kidney failure. so, what we've learned is that by giving them blood thinners to prevent these clots, to treat these clots, patients, especially those who are trending towards severe disease, may have

celine gounder who joins us. so good to have you with us, doctor, thank you for all that you do. >> my pleasure. >> now as the united states passes the grim and disturbing milestone of 100,000 deaths from covid-19, we are reminded that other nations not only lost fewer souls but they also got this virus under control. what mistakes were made in the u.s. to get this so terribly wrong? >> rosemary, i think this is going to go down as the great american tragedy. i think unfortunately we did not think this could happen to us. we somehow thought that we were immune to something like this, both at a governmental policy level as well as at a public health level, so we didn't take the measures that were needed. this was not about banning travel, this was about realizing that no matter what kind of travel restrictions there were in place, this was going to arrive on our shores and we needed to take strict public health measures on the ground here to control it. >> so how do we turn this around? top white house medical adv

gounder, do you know how this at-home test would work? >> that's right. you would have somebody spitting into a collection kit and sending that back to the lab but that still doesn't change the fact that you need to have the rest of the reagents, the tests, the cartridges, all of those other things. so really, what you're saving here are the swabs that you put in the nose and then because somebody can collect this themselves, they don't have to have an interaction with a healthcare provider in a health facility, so we're saving on all of the personal protective equipment that those healthcare providers might need to use if they're collecting spesmens, and we're preventing transmission in health facilities because people aren't going there to get tested. >> dr. faust, chinese researchers said on thursday that the coronavirus can persist in men's semen even after they have begun to recover, raising questions about whether the virus could be sexually transmitted. what do you think? >> i think that we're going to hear stories about virus being detected all ov

celine gounder. >> thank you for having me. >> xi jinping backed a w.h.o. led review of the coronavirus pandemic. china contributed $2 billion to help world health organizations, certainly to help developing nations in their fight against the pandemic. in exchange taiwan will be side lined. what is your reaction to all of this? >> i think it's important to remember, rosemary, what the role of the world health organization is. it's not the cia or fbi. it's not meant to be an investigative organization. it's also not an organization that has the capacity like organizations like nsf and others to actually deploy people on the ground to respond to a crisis. they're really in the business of setting guidelines, analyzing the science, making recommendations, providing technical assistance. and so, you know, i think they're getting sucked into a position that is just not consistent with their mission and their expertise and their capacity. >> and what do you mean by that? >> well, what i mean by that is they're a scientific organization that is meant to analyze th

gounder, appreciate it. thank you.rsection as more and more restaurants are opening up around the country we'll dig deeper into what laboratory science says about the possibility of dining out safely. "the return of drifting" "drafting" "the return of the slide job" "ripping the wall" "gas-n-go" "bump-n-run" "the return of loud" "nascar is back, and xfinity is bringing you the best seat in the house." >>> as you heard before the break, despite that updated guideline from the cdc, many scientists are still concerned contaminated surfaces can transmit the coronavirus. and with all states now scheduled to reopen in some fashion or other tomorrow, we wanted to see what that might mean for people who eat at restaurants and may be exposed to germs or eating coronavirus droplets. randi kaye went to a lab in florida to see if science can provide any answers. >> i put some in. and should i rub it all together as well some? >> reporter: this yellow tinted goo is a mixture of petroleum jelly and solution. >> under an ultraviolet

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celine gounder. we surely do appreciate her expertise every single time. hello to you.t know if you've been out. have you been out in this beautiful warm weather? more and more people are out. they want to be out and about. these images from manhattan this weekend show the reality of what it looks like in the real world right now. are you concerned, doctor? >> i have been out. i have been out to walk to and from bellevue hospital to work and i can tell you on the way back trudging home through madison square park across the city, i am seeing lots of people sitting around on blankets and beach towels. they are not wearing masks. they are not social distance in. and that has me very concerned. you'd almost think we had an epidemic of turkey neck or something with people wearing bras on their chins. your mask is supposed to go over your nose and mouth. but unfortunately, this is what we're seeing. new york city has been the center of then pandemic worldwide. >> columbus, ohio, let's put the pictures up. on friday, the first day of outdoor dining were allow ed ed reopen. th

celine gounder. thank you so much for talking with us. >> my pleasure. >> now we know, of course, with the covid-19 outbreak at the white house and the u.s. death toll at more than 80,000, president trump called a news conference monday and declared the u.s. has prevailed in testing for the virus and said if a person wants a test, they can get a test. has the president met the moment and prevailed on testing as he suggests? and can everyone get a test if they want it? >> well, sadly, rosemary, this is a promise that has been made for a couple months now by the president that everybody who wanted a test could get a test and unfortunately that is still not the case in many parts of the country. we don't have enough tests. we still don't have enough supplies necessary to allow you to collect specimens to perform the test in some parts of the country. this remains a real very important bottleneck. we want to be able to test everybody who has symptoms. everybody who wants a test and we're still not at tha

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