they may have they may be able to start impressing upon the government their very government quote unquote and hopefully it will be real what their foreign policy would be that i mean that's a dramatic change for the for the arab world right now. if that change in fact happened yes it would be very dramatic we don't know who is going to emerge at the head of the egyptian government at the end of this process if it is all marceau non then we will have best a cosmetic change and in terms of egypt's relationship with israel egypt's relationship with the united states not much different than what's gone before will happen if it's almost anyone else then we can expect that any egyptian government will have a much less friendly attitude towards israel and towards the united states and almost certainly will not collaborate with israel in maintaining the siege on the gaza strip at least not in the way that it has been over the last two years joe if i can stay with you here i mean the reason why i think bringing up foreign policy here is because the indigenous problems the economic problems social

it is smaller government. if we had a smaller government taking 43% of gdp and the budget was balanced, that was worse than in government spending 10% of gdp and having a small deficit. host: david kendall is with a group called third wave. he wrote about why he thinks the budget is a success. he says it is only good as the debate that it engenders. if congress does not have to vote on it, and it rarely does. measured by the standard, for the bomb was budget is a resounding success. republicans have attacked it as a job killer. but it does fear the impact of cuts to heating assistance and numerous other programs. but it nudges the debate forward. guest: the success of failure, i guess. this budget was seen as so far out of touch of economic reality that it spurred serious debate. if that ultimately leads to reform of the entitlement programs and serious cuts in the defense spending down the road, then we can give the president dubious credit. host: peter, a republican. caller: thank you for taking my call. i h

then the government pulled the plug. cell phone service was cut off, a tv satellite signals were jammed, and internet access was blocked for nearly the entire population. big government did not want the people to communicate with each other. it did not want the press to communicate with the public. it certainly did not want the world to watch. the events in egypt recall another protest movement, 18 months earlier in iran when thousands marched after the disputed elections. their protesters also used websites to protest. video taken by cell phone showed a young woman killed by a member of the paramilitary forces and within hours, that video was being watched by people everywhere. the iranian authorities used technology as well. revolution regard stocks member of the green movement by tracking their online profiles. like egypt, for a time, the government shut down the internet and mobile networks altogether. after the authorities raided homes, attacked university dorms, made mass arrests, tortured and fired shots into crow

as i point out, the best government is the most local government and it is limited government. they never envisioned we would have a federal government is so large with states so small. another thing in the last year alone, states get more of their revenue from the federal government than they do from any other source. our founders would be aghast at the thought that states have become minimal to the dominance of the federal government. and really one of the things, let's start with the most basic unit of government. it is not washington or the state capital. the most basic unit of government is the family. that is the most fundamental way in which we are governed. it is the first form of government we ever experienced. tavis: i promise i will come back to the family government, but i want you to unpack a couple of these a little bit more. the notion of a zero state government being better than federal government. while there are a couple of them that made some news turning down some of the money, even republican governors have been accepting money from washington. it is one th

or the scottish government. there was pressure put on for his release. >> that is one of the words that he highlighted in the report. he was very clear that although the british government had the facility of his release, it was made clear that no pressure was applied. >> my guess is both bp and the libyans put pressure on both governments, to be honest with you. it would not surprise me to have the libyans put a lot of pressure on the scots. the pressure may have started in london but eventually wound up in edinburgh. >> it was always said that he was released on compassionate grounds only. is that something that in any way helps you come to terms with his release? >> he is still alive and living as far as i know on a villa overlooking the mediterranean. the only thing that would make me feel better would be if the winds of change that are now going to the middle east and northern africa might eventually hit libya. >> the new cabinet has announced more concessions that it is inclined to end the protests against

, government is the problem. that's a sweeping assertion. a lot of people, including some fairly traditional conservatives might take some exception. i think the caller speaks for many who believe that conserve tism -- conservativism in the modern era is almost neoism. that it is unwilling to acknowledge a moral obligation on the part of society to address the needs of people who through no fault of their own are victims. that's part of the debate that is as old as this country. and reagan is very much a part of it. there is no doubt -- i mean, there are elements of the reagan program, if you will -- remember at one point famously in an effort to cut the budget there were bureaucrats, there are conservative bureaucrats, as well as liberal bureaucrats who announced ketchup had been declared a vegetable for purposes of meeting government nutritional needs. that's comic cal. there are millions of people out there in the audience who do not look upon today as a -- as the holiday we are celebrating. host: we had that

the role of government is very important. we haven't talked about the role of government. i was talking about the role of government as the legislative force to insist on taxing or otherwise to private philanthropy of its economy. and now is the generator of the discussion on government. the role of government as responsible under a constitution to promote the general welfare is actually the line from the constitution is an important role. and that is the role that there's no reason we cannot you're shouldn't be shared with private enterprise. for other reasons -- some of the reasons we talked about, that is government can certainly provide large amounts of fun, which the private or can't. i mean, foundations raised somewhere under 50 billion a year, just foundations. not talking about the full amount raised i individuals. and that is, i think i calculated 133rd of the amount of money spent on social well-being issues in the country. so the 800-pound gorilla in this discussion is government and were not going to replace that with private philanthropy like that. but a great

to small government.he federal government needs to shrink and shrink in a big way. host: is the federal government capable of that? guest: in many ways, the federal government is the only entity that can do these things. much of this infrastructure is not at the local level. the planning, the connections for all that, we are a nation of 50 states. we're competing with other countries. you cannot have -- many of our cities are located in places that transcend states. we have to states and the district of columbia in this region. there are other places where you have to cross lines. energy. power grids -- these are things that transcend regions. this is an important role for the federal government to make those investments. these are not things best left to the private sector. it is not in my interest or anyone's interest to spend significant investments to upgrade that infrastructure. the costt want to bear -- individual airlines do not one to bear the cost of upgrading and airport. that is what the tax sy

particularly, it will undermine the image that hong kong government is a capable government to manage. >> reporter: as hong kong stands at a cross-roads on whether to dump, burn, or recycle, the government has shifted to invest in its future. but it's still unclear if the problem is so. adrian brown, nhk world, hong kong. >>> businesses around the world not only compete to sell goods and services. they're in a contest to attract the best and brightest talent, leaders who can navigate the globe. k yuko aotani reports on overcoming obstacles in his own life, now teaches others to be front runners. >> reporter: japan used to lead the world in competitiveness. that was in the '90s. in 2010, an international survey ranked it as 27, far behind places such as singapore, taiwan and south korea. one of the reasons for the decline may be people power. ann shore advises forms that are struggling to develop workers to be internationally adapt. he heads the japanese branch of an international consulting company. >> i also think innovative leaders -- reporte he knows what it is like to overmehaen a

in the federal government. i think that comes from the fact we don't try to use off the shelf products. we come up with our own, i'm going to use the word ridiculous specifications rather than squeezing something into an existing product. it's not like buying something at best buy, but it seems like in medicare and medicaid, there should be somebody already developed out there by the private insurance carriers who are doing pretty much the same thing. do you see some advantage in doing that, and maybe i should direct this to the lady from ibm. is there a product to plug this into your product and just start working at it? >> yes, and so -- i mean there is a solution. i won't say product, but it's a solution that exists. like i said, north carolina, and also cms recently issued a request or proposal to do exactly what we're talking about, to do a before leverage analytics and i.t. to do predictive analytics around what gets paid. >> all right, and i will yield back the remappedder of my -- remainder of my time w

then the government pulled the plug. cell phone service was cut off, tv satellite signals were jammed, and internet access was blocked for nearly the entire population. >> reporter: in simple terms, what appears to have happened is this: internet users in egypt wanted to connect to, for example, facebook. normally, their computers check in with a so-called "routing table," a kind of address book for web sites around the world. once the computer finds the address, it successfully connects the user to the desired website-- in this case, facebook. instead, the egyptian government appears to have disabled the routing table so that egyptian computers couldn't locate and connect to web sites, essentially turning off the nation's internet. in a detailed, front page report today, the "new york times" reconstructed how the mubarek government was able to sever some 20 million people from the internet just after midnight on january 28. and joining us now is one of the co-authors of today's "times" story: james glanz. also with me h

is the government on what our own family. if that is where we are governed first. the fact is that it is bad form of government that serves as the foundation for all other forms of government. i tried to make the case, and i believe i do, that this is not just a social issue, as it has often been described. and there are people that want to create an artificial conflict between the designated social issues and the economic issues. the first chapter of the book will make it very clear that there is a direct correlation between the fabric of our culture in the relationship of its families, and the economy of the country. i want to begin before i even get into some of those figures by saying that i make it very clear that this is not an attack on president obama. i believe we hear a lot of talk about civility, although on any given day you will find politicians to use the most inflammatory rhetoric possible. there were some congressman yesterday that were utterly bizarre from congressman regarding going to the streets. i find in the midst of that it is important that

the government. -- of limited government.y written in grew to pencil -- to philadelphia. it was all well worth it because, he said, a great things are wanted to be done. when he and his colleagues arrived and over the years ahead, they practiced the art of the possible, they make compaq's and concessions and compromises. they made deep sectional and other differences secondary in pursuit of the grand prize of freedom. they each argued passionately for the best answers as they saw them. but they never permitted -- they gave us a republic, if we can keep it. keeping the republic is a great thing that is wanted to be done in our time bios. in this room -- bite us. -- by us. to keep our republic, freedom means every friend they can get it. let's go find them and be a friend of them and welcome them to the great thing that is wanted to be done in our day. god bless this meeting and the liberty with which makes it possible. [applause] >> that trust this portion of tonight's conservative political action conference. the conference c

to government. can you touch on this? >> of course, the most well- known maintenance of effort would be with current medicaid requirements on the state. and there are many other grants in aid that are handed out to the states that occasionally come with maintenance effort requirements, or may encourage the minister how the government to raise taxes and support spending. i do not know if i answered your question. >> there are certain states that are in different fiscal situations. i noticed some research has been done on this. the difficulty of policy makers to balance the budget, does that have a bearing on their credit rating? certainly, it does, one would believe. in your discussion of various sub groupings of the state, not the general obligation bonds, but the dormitory authority for road authority, does that have a bearing? the state revenue sources, whether they are not -- whether or not they are sustainable. can you touch on that? >> yes, and without saying whether these 80-the rating agencie

and neither government in.being far and distant and removed from the people that were slow to respond to the needs and demands of people. reluctant respect that quintessential american value of self-rule. those americans boarded ships in boston harbor and seized crates of tea, casting it into the water. slowly the news traveled across the atlantic. a division made its way to the ears of king george iii and his ministers. who i can only imagine might have heard that said in a distinctly british accents, are they serious? could it possibly be serious in wanting to stand up for what was then the world's only super power? we show them that we were. it took us 14 years to get to that point in 1773 where we as americans were proclaiming what we did not want from our national government. oppressive taxation overregulation and an assumption that that natural government. it took us 14 years to get from boston harbor to philadelphia where in 1787 and a hot half, she was sweltering summer we as americans came up with a do

for all of the talk about egypt, if the rod in government -- iranian governments, the government should allow people to exercise the very same right to peaceful assembly and the ability to demonstrate and communicate their desires. we have all seen their response. the head of the revolutionary guards said today that -- we will severely crushed any of their movements. but you have seen in the region -- what you have seen in the region is the government of iran scared of the will of its people. >> thank you, robert. good luck. i hope you get to spend a lot of time with ethan. i've also taken the liberty of looking over questions that you said you would get back to last with an answer. gwynn was last time president obama spoke with president mubarak? -- when was the last time president obama spoke with president mubarak? >> i think it was right before he spoke -- it was monday, right? the monday he spoke. >> under the obama administration state department , it did not directly fund civil society groups for the last two years as the bush administration had done. it also lowered how much civ

in berlin, germany's foreign minister has sharply criticized the libyan government's handling of anti-government protests. he demanded an end to the violence and spoke out in support of the demonstrators, who he says are making use of their human right of free speech. -- here is part of what he had to say earlier on monday. >> in view of recent events, if we are advising it -- we are advising against all travel to india -- to libya. many germans still in libya should leave the country immediately if they are able to do so safely. we are prepared to help our countrymen if it becomes necessary. >> that was the german foreign minister speaking there. the unrest in libya has triggered demonstrations around europe. against the four-decade long authoritarian rule of gaddafi. protesters gathered outside the libyan embassy, carrying placards, demanding an end to the massacre in the north african country. around 100 activists took part in the protest. >> the situation in libya, of course, has got the attention of the world, especially people who need oil. >> the market is wondering whether oil supplies a

the new government the new government is expected to demand better terms on its bailout by the european union and the international monetary fund. the last surviving american veteran of world war i has died at the age of 110. frank buckles passed away sunday at his home in charlestown, west virginia. he enlisted in the great war when he just 16 after lying about his age. later, buckles survived more than three years in japanese p.o.w. camps during the second world war. he was honored with a white house visit in 2008 with then- president bush. in a statement today, president obama said buckles' life "reminds us of the true meaning of patriotism." those are some of the day's major stories. now, back to jeff. >> brown: the threat of a government shutdown appears to have eased for now as a republican-backed proposal picked up some democratic support. newshour congressional correspondent kwame holman has our update. >> reporter: with current funding for federal operations set to run out at midnight friday, congressional leaders seemed to be coalescing around a short term measure that would a

speaker, the parliamentary government office condemn the government's obsession with secrecy. they do not have the confidence to justify withholding documents that are essential to his work and hours. the expenditure reduction plan is an example. when will you get it through your cab that it is a basic principle. the parkland -- parliament authorizes spending. when will the government stop hiding this from cost? the honorable president of the treasury board. >> it is an interesting question. just yesterday, i had another meeting with the parliamentary budget officer. if there is any document that it is hard for him to get, all that he has to do is give me a call and we will see if there are any documents. there are also speculation's established in the house. he just has to give me a call to get those documents. >> and he may be able to have a beer with kevin. he said that parliament needs greater transparency. as in 2005 and 2006, the government should release a list of cuts by department. we need that to do our job. why is this confidential? what is the government trying to

government and there's several internet security firms that are vying for a large government contracts and to keep good relationships with the government who decided to target on a mess and one of them a company called h.p. gary that those internet security and internet investigations started publicly boasting that they had managed to infiltrate anonymous find out the identity of some of their key members and in response anonymous targeted this firm h.b. gary by hacking into their computer system into their e-mail system and downloading and then publishing on the internet fifty thousand internal e-mails from h.p. gary and among those e-mails were proposals that h.p. gary. and other internet firms and a large law firm in washington were developing to target various critics of the chamber of commerce and also supporters of wiki leaks such as myself with all kinds of odious and probably illegal smear campaigns to destroy their reputation and in some way threaten their careers and that's what it was the publication of those e-mails and those pows that have led to this controversy so wiki l

we will replace old government cynicism with new government compassion. we will place -- replace old government indifference with new insight. we will replace this function with a government but holds the hearts and the needs of the people. governments that will show understanding of the fragile and shattered lives of many thousands of people for whom politics has not worked. he von weber and -- need reassurance politics will work. we will need to charge the steps to a new future where there will be a quality of working lives. i know i can offer that. what they do not need is more of the same cliches. that is why leadership in politics is more fundamental than ever. the fundamental job is to make decisions in the best interest of the people. i know what it takes to rebuild to a point where we can legitimately challenged. that is why i will offer my party and myself to rebuild our country and provide a quality future for all of our people. no incoming government elected by the people has ever faced scale of a challenge facing our country. we have strong an

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government is a government of limited powers. this is how was created. there are explicit grants of powers to the federal government, and there are certain powers they were not given to the federal government. in recent years, there has been a feeling about it in our country that the federal government can do anything it desires to do on any subject. i think their rulings attacking this statute are refreshing to me in that it causes our nation to once again enter into a discussion about what it means to be a limited -- i government of limited powers. i wish to suggest how far we have gotten on these issues when they are explicit constitutional provisions, the right to keep and bear arms, whereas we at four members of the court to want to read that out of the constitution. it has a specific provision that provides individuals the right to not have their property taken except for public use, it has specific provisions that allow free and robust debates and the ability to speak out in public forums. those things are individual rights that our courts somehow

government.s unemployment soared to 10%, america needed policies that would spur job creation, but instead of focusing on jobs, the obama administration and democratic congress spend one year concocting a government-run health care system, one that stifle job creation, as well as drives up the cost of health care at a time when we desperately needed incentive to create new jobs, president obama and his allies tried to impose the biggest tax increase in american history on small business owners by letting the bush tax cuts expire. two years of their calling for these massive tax increases caused more uncertainty among employers, made them reluctant to hire new workers, or spend any money, until they could see how high their tax burden would be. along the way, the democratic congress pushed spending to 25% of gdp, sucking trillions of dollars out of the productive, private economy. they forget every dollar taxed to borrow by the government is $1 and that cannot be invested by an opera nor or small

and the british government. it with r.t. live from moscow and stuck in a vicious circle of debt an increasing number of americans find themselves unable to afford the bad necessities of life so bankruptcy and the government's struggle to cope with a debt crisis. moscow has denounced renewed japanese criticism of a visit by president dmitri medvedev to russia's a coup real islands which tokyo claims as its own the foreign ministry has also issued a note of protest such a pattern over the burning of a russian flag by activists in tokyo the islands in the pacific ocean passed to the soviet union after the second world war and part of the russian federation ever since to me treatment together paid an historic first visit to the koreans in november russia's defense minister also went there just last week foreign minister sergei lavrov gave short shrift to the japanese criticism and said moscow only wants its friendly relations with turkey. the expressions used by the japanese officials of far from diplomatic and in g

government. they see a widening chasm of wealth and opportunity. they wonder if the middle class rather than expand as it has for our lifetimes is in the midst of an exorable contraction. and we cannot ignore these concerns. we have to renew people's faith in the promise of this country that this is a place where you can make it if you try. we have to do this together. business and government, workers and ceo's, democrats and republicans. we know what it will take for america to win the future. we need to out-to build our competitors. we need an economy that is based not on all wheat consumed but will we make and will we sell around the world. we need to make america the best place on earth to do business. this is a job for all of us. as a government, we will help lay the foundation for you to grow and innovate and succeed. we will upgrade our transportation so you can move goods and information more quickly and more cheaply. we will invest in education so you can hire the most skilled, talented

police started to launch your guesses. >> these protesters had no fear of governments of -- governments or heights. demonstrators believe it is simple. there 2009 anti-government protests helped inspire protesters this year in egypt and tunisia. now they say the arab world protests every inspired them to have another go at facing down their own government in iran. demonstrators are on the streets of another middle eastern country. this time, the united states knows what it wants to say. >> they deserve the same rights they saw being played out in egypt and that are part of their own birthright. >> iran's government calls these demonstrators indigenous -- seditionists. >> iranian security forces have been told to crack down hard on the opposition. i am sure they will do that. that does not necessarily mean the movement is going to go away. >> we do not yet know if one day of protest will make any difference. iran's opposition has made one important point. it is still alive. james reynolds, bbc news. >> earlier, i spoke to a professor of political science at bennington college in vermont

caller: here's a man late in the government supposedly representing the government who is guns the government. it is ironic that he wanted to be president of the united states. i don't have disdain for ronald reagan. i think he did what he thought he had to do. what i remember about ronald reagan is the night he visited philadelphia when he became president of the united states people were living on the streets. they released all the people from the mental institutions because they were trying to save money or cut the amount of money people will to pay on their taxes so they put all these people in the streets. they were sleeping on the grates over the -- on the streets to try to keep warm in the winter time. i remember the iran contra deal where these people, oliver north, and others, took advantage of a compromised president, a compromised man and they were running the government, not ronald reagan. guest: well homelessness came to the foreas an issue in the 198's. that's part of the legacy, that's part of the record that will be divided for a long time to come. host: ronald reagan's book "

in a government negotiation nobody is. in fact, the government representatives is playing with your money and our children's money and that's why they give away too much of it so don't take it from me. some of the heros we rightfully celebrate of lanes routes in american, samuel governorers, fdr, said that government has no -- unions have no business in government. >> woodruff: how do you see that? >> i think if you eliminate the ability to collectively bargain public employees, then they are effectively negotiating one person at a time and that's why we created collective bargaining in this country. it is true that some states don't have collective bargaining for their public employees and some do. it's working very well in montana. and part of the reason it works in mon tan is is it a shared responsibility. when we get into tough times, i ask them to share the responsibility. and in montana' case it's worked, rear oning balanced budget, we have $328 million in the bank today. partly because our state employees are doing

, government-guaranteed. we get the impression that because of that, private market is dried up. of course it has. the difference here is that we do not have any good sense of what is out there x the actions of fannie, freddie, if ginnie, and other organizations. i like to see an academic simulation -- simulation, what the yields -- you spreads would look like if the government was not there. this may not sound like -- this may sound like ancient history, but i served on the saving in loans board in 1962. all we had to finance mortgages was savings and loans. it was an incredibly effective market. we had a huge amount of home construction is because baby boomers were building up. you have all the other operations going on. but aside from the very chronic concerns that those of us as economists or finance people who were in the s&l industry feeling very uncomfortable about the fact that this savings and loans institutions constructed at that point was not a viable institution. it required that inflation was lo

how you think about the government stepping in? >> i agree with my colleague, but let's talk about how we get there. we have come together tonight against the backdrop of national discourse that has plundered into racial epithets, homophobia, threats to the lives of elected officials, their families, and my former colleagues being spat upon. that is how the conversation has deteriorated. by starting point is that a thriving democracy is based upon an informed electorate. when the rhetoric is polarized, dangerous, and threatening, filled with polemic, about gamesmanship and not substance, where does the public to go to get a clear, compelling, unencumbered awareness of what is going on? we all have to deal with this. media is a business and subject to threats, challenges, and the changes of a business. as an elected person charged with the responsibility of governments, there are enormous implications. rupert murdoch made it very clear -- he said, look, i am in the business of ratings. i said to myself -- there it is. written large.

what is the appropriate role for government?h do we want government involved in our networks? to what extent do you allow companies to do whatever they want and to what extent the companies need to be regulated? this is a huge debate we have over neutrality and a full range of other issues. this is no longer a bipolar world and we no longer have communism versus capitalism. we have a range of different kinds of capitalism mixed in with various kinds of involvements in different countries. it is not like we have a really clear dichotomy between what we are avoiding. it is much more complicated. there is clearly no consensus in this country. what is important is that we need to be able to have a debate about this. we need to make sure that we have it in a way where both sides can be heard and we ensure that women process with enough tres to work for our businesses. the whole point of this country is that we have been raging back and forth about where in the program balances between government and private society since the very beg

in the federal government. i think that comes from the fact we don't try to use off the shelf products. we come up with our own -- i'm going to use the word ridiculous speculations rather than trying to squeeze something into an existing product. i realize, you know, balancing the budget. there ought to be something already developed by the private insurance carriers who are doing pretty much the same thing. do you some advantage in doing isn't that and maybe i should direct this to the lady from ibm. is there a product. can we go plug this stuff into your congos project and start working on it. >> yes. i mean, there is a solution. i don't want to his a partly cloudy there's a solution i want to let you know cms has issued a request for proposal to do exactly what we're talking about. to do it before leverage analytics on what gets paid. >> all right. and i'll yield back the remainder of my time with just the comment that -- i really think part of what we need to be doing is looking for off the shelf solutions.

they are preventing the government from operating normally. some of the demonstrators filled on in their mobile phones. others stood outside celebrating at the demise of the hated institutions. >> this is one of ignorance, people of money, businessmen. >> this is a huge amount of corruption and of the king is hosni mubarak. >> there were protests in alexandria as well. they torched the governor's office and his cars. another development for the government is the spreading strikes. some suez canal workers walked out about of the canal still open. factory workers and other employees are on strike. oby contrast, the most quiet place in egypt is probably the most -- in egypt are the pyramids. the collapse in tourism is hurting many egyptians. in the square, they are wondering what the vice president meant. a threat of martial law perhaps. it is difficult to see what the government can do to keep the state from slipping away. >> sold his had been killed in north pakistan. -- soldiers have been killed in a bomb attack in northern pakistan. 6 kilogra

government is a government of limited powers. this is how was created. there are explicit grants of powers to the federal government, and there are certain powers they were not given to the federal government. in recent years, there has been a feeling about it in our country that the federal government can do anything it desires to do on any subject. i think their rulings attacking this statute are refreshing to me in that it causes our nation to once again enter into a discussion about what it means to be a limited -- i government of limited powers. i wish to suggest how far we have gotten on these issues when they are explicit constitutional provisions, the right to keep and bear arms, whereas we at four members of the court to want to read that out of the constitution. it has a specific provision that provides individuals the right to not have their property taken except for public use, it has specific provisions that allow free and robust debates and the ability to speak out in public forums. those things are individual rights that our courts somehow

of federal money to bail out the state municipal governments. i should also note that the five states in the greatest fiscal trouble today are among the 12 wealthiest states in the nation. and a dollar they get back from washington is a fraction of the amount of money sent to washington. so they should be able to handle their problems and be forced to do so. >> as we said to me that this unique opportunity and i was trying to do some research as to how unique are you. are you familiar -- how many other americans have this opportunity to serve in all three branches? perhaps that's a research project. >> i started the research project once. and as far as i know i'm the only one arise. [laughter] >> very much so. >> i had a book of existing topographies with existing federal budges and then i got as far as ui, namely secretary of state supreme court justice and senator. >> perhaps we have a latter-day james burns here. >> maybe not. there's an election coming up. we'll see. of these careers, do you have a favorite? >> yes. let's put it this way. if

up the government buildings. there is no sign that descent has changed. the longer this goes on and protesters are settling in for a marathon, the greater the danger is. when the protests started two weeks ago the organizers expected to be arrested within five minutes. this man is now one of the leaders in tahrir square. do you think people will continue to come here to demonstrate? >> i believe-people. i believe -- i believe in people. the people want anything they can do it. even if it takes a long time to do. >> this might take a long time. >> i think it might take a long time. >> they crowds in the square are still very big and still demanding the presidency immediate departure and are still paralyzed in cairo. that irritates some egyptians who say they should be satisfied with mr. mubarak's announcement he will not stand in september's elections. >> the majority are not who are in tahrir today or yesterday. >> what do the majority want? >> the majority are what the hat -- happy with what the president said s

government policy. once people start to wrap their hand at -- heads around of the above the administration is politicizing something up until now they themselves see this as a tool not just the power projections by the united states. is that how you think they got into grupo and g-mail a few years ago? >> yes. but one issue, we all know the support of democracy before it was called the freedom agenda. and readjust up outlined up until now those who are actually using the media space-bar for so what i think happens the u.s. government overshot the mark. probably the state department saw. [inaudible] however before i get into that, remember the agenda itself that speech itself it is much more accurate than the actual framework. but the problem with that to, it is examined in conjunction with all of the other forces of the u.s. government and state department so the one big dinner the state department ceo or silicon valley. all of those defense they get locked into one. and the big cyberattack of china and

i want a representative that promote self-government. what are you doing as a representative to improve representation on your district level? >> i am happy to take it even though he during a two representatives. we even though heat -- even though he geared it to representatives. it was representative with a small "r." we understand that people governed themselves better than people can. people govern themselves better of the local level than they do of the national level, and that truly is a substantial part about what this tea party movement is, is this idea of people like us, pushing power out of washington and back to waco, texas, and back out to utah, and all other places throughout the country. we need people back in our home states. i just had this conversation with the speaker of the utah house of representatives, becky, a few days ago, and she is on board. there is a whole team of legislators back in my home state who wanted this to happen. we need to be pushing power back, and our state legislatures need to be pulling it back.

so we are undoubtedly see our own government involved. to see any efforts made in the future and how does this balance out against what you fear of other governments may be doing? >> guest: the u.s. government? who do expect? >> congress of some form. [laughter] >> guest: is a tough one. definitely there are signs the u.s. government has much more concerned about the impact up until now because of wikileaks because now they suddenly discovered from the people around the globe can launch a cyberattack on a pile. but also in europe and elsewhere they feel passionate about wikileaks. but with the internet, with what it poses come i am just not sure the progress is any less jaded of those of the internet. those who are extremely concerned about the internet calling for the kill switch or the button to turn it off four prosecute anyone connected with wikileaks. i do not think this changeover come. they appear much more aggressive than the government themselves and their the ones with the department of justice who have the reaction to assange.