haslinda: how do you do that is the boss of grabtaxi?so, three days ago, i was driving a car, picking up people, talking to people i , think it is really important. it was completely free in the sense of me giving and getting as my payment, getting real a -- getting real feedback from the ground. talking to passengers. i feel i getting feedback, i am understanding how drivers field. being in traffic jams. now i don't own a car anymore. , i don't drive myself anymore. haslinda: by choice? anthony: by choice because i use grab all the time. i actually happened driven in so long. making sure the little complications, making sure the safety elements is there. the app is big enough, the wording is big enough. how drivers feel in traffic jams. hearing the feedback on passengers has been amazing. haslinda: you have been compared uber. likes of over -- had you feel about that? anthony: it is so different. it is like night and day. i can't comment on how they started. for us, we are not a global company trying to be local. we are a local company